Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by redietz View Post

I assume you wanted a response, so I'll oblige. If you'll go back and see what prompted some people to be upset, it was when Boz mentioned the Trade Tower deaths, and I said this should sprint by it by a factor of 30. That was actually in line with the optimistic versions of the models that said, if distancing was enforced nationwide, we were looking at 80K to 85K deaths. After the first two meteoric days of New York problems, I said "I was wrong" (regarding the 80-85K deaths), and I had been way too optimistic. It was a couple of days later that Trump gave the 100K figure in a task force briefing, which was followed by a revision less than 36 hours later to between 100K and 200K. Now if you are going to say that I was somehow wrong at that point in time, you realize you have to say that Trump was more wrong.

Some things to consider, again, is that the 60K numbers are framed the way they are for reasons, probably to push for business openings. Those numbers are NOT for 2020. Those numbers are NOT for the entire pandemic, which may last several years. Those numbers ARE for up-to-August 4th estimates.

The virus doesn't know it's supposed to go vacation starting August 4th. If you'll notice, the beginning of August leaves five more months in the year. Good luck with the end date for the pandemic. Good luck with no second and third waves. If you'll also notice, you'll see that the 1918 pandemic totals are for the entire pandemic, which stretched for the better part of three years, I believe.

Mickey, you're stacking of stats with this is really just about as bad as MDawg counting the sessions that he wins. It's that bad. People dying in October do count, you know.
Your whole post is just shifting numbers around in a smoke & mirrors attempt to not look bad for your outrageous projections.

I'm sure had you found any "outrageous projections" by me regarding how many people I thought would die, you would have quoted them, eh mickey?

It was the president who generated that 2.2 million figure, not me, my friend. You might want to attribute that quote properly.

And further, regarding your propensity to "shift numbers around," let me know when you find a quote by me regarding death tolls that uses phrases like "first wave" or "by August 4th." There won't be any. This is new lingo to cheerlead for a quick "return to normalcy."
And you continue to politicize the issue by saying Trump came up with the 2.2 million figure. He most certainly did not. You know damn well he is not a doctor. He's dependent on advisers on the issue. Whatever advisers involved put up those big numbers then started slowly retracting them. Those advisers along with many others not in the administration told us not to fear coronavirus. They used the president in spreading this false information. He's not a doctor. How could he possibly know. Then they flip flopped. So did he because he's not a doctor. How could he possibly know. He's completely dependent on what others tell him..

You also blamed the president for this but again he is not a doctor. He's dependent on advisers. You need to place the blame where it belongs and quit picking on the president.