The WoV Thread

[Rob.Singer]

Humm, so it is ok for you to air your gripes, but when I do it, I get a "grow up, just grow up already" from you. Different rules for you?

And if you weren't such an insecure person, it wouldn't have meant a thing to you.

The same can be said about anyone complaining about what I say. It shouldn't mean a thing to Boz about what I say about someone else, like Mr. Wiz.

Apples to oranges. Most of what you have to say is complaining about what others say. If it doesn't fit your agenda or narrative, or someone has been able to do something you haven't and you don't understand how they do it, you act like it just can't be because it's not according to the world order of kew. Frustrate you enough and you call people names and liars. You are good at one thing though: how to live a conflict-filled life.

[Rob.Singer]

I personally don't think calling it the "Chinese Virus" is racist. But it is kind of stupid at this point as it is now a worldwide virus.

But criticism of The Chinese is absolutely warranted. The have done this before, with these "wet" markets selling dead and live animals right next to each other. Viruses jump from the dead animals to live animals and then from live animals to humans. AND according to a recent report, they have recently re-opened up these markets and continue to do the same damn thing. And THAT is the true definition of insanity. Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.

We should permanently seal our border to travel from China and that includes anyone traveling on a Chinese passport traveling through another country first, until they start acting like a civilized nation.

Agree...frankly, the Chinese Communist Party should be charged with crimes against humanity, but we all know that won’t happen. They bought off enough people in this world (especially the WHO).

I don't understand why the United States does any business whatsoever with China. Does everyone really need mega-numbers of ultra-cheap clothes and low-end tech? Couldn't we have meaningful lives owning less and paying more?

There's only ONE reason much of our products are manufactured in China: cheap labor and materials cost. Our corporations won't do anything about that unless forced. CEO's want to keep their lakeside summer homes, private jets, yachts, and easy alimony payments.

There's nothing wrong with calling this the Chinese Virus. That's where it started--in the barbaric wet markets in that backwards communist country. Nobody has a problem with the Spanish Flu which didn't even start in Spain, or the German Measles which is labeled that way only because German scientists discovered it. I believe we should call a chink a chink.

[jpfromla]

I personally don't think calling it the "Chinese Virus" is racist. But it is kind of stupid at this point as it is now a worldwide virus.

But criticism of The Chinese is absolutely warranted. The have done this before, with these "wet" markets selling dead and live animals right next to each other. Viruses jump from the dead animals to live animals and then from live animals to humans. AND according to a recent report, they have recently re-opened up these markets and continue to do the same damn thing. And THAT is the true definition of insanity. Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.

We should permanently seal our border to travel from China and that includes anyone traveling on a Chinese passport traveling through another country first, until they start acting like a civilized nation.

Agree...frankly, the Chinese Communist Party should be charged with crimes against humanity, but we all know that won’t happen. They bought off enough people in this world (especially the WHO).

I don't understand why the United States does any business whatsoever with China. Does everyone really need mega-numbers of ultra-cheap clothes and low-end tech? Couldn't we have meaningful lives owning less and paying more?

The funny thing is that I remember, back in the late 70’s, early 80’s, Walmart commercials touting how what they sold was American made...

[MaxPen]

Quote of a post from the Wizard:

April 13th, 2020 at 5:25:14 AMpermalink
“I received a complaint about MaxPen's avatar as being violation of the rule against political statements. In channels outside the forum, Max said he does not intend to log in to change it and doesn't care what I do. Lacking other options, he is suspended until he requests to come back and then shortly after changes it.“

Note sure why the Wizard would post this because it’s basically a Forum Fuck You announcement by Max to everyone over there. I say Forum FU because I’m sure Max doesn’t feel that way personally that way towards some of the people there. Only how petty some are by being “upset” at an avatar.

Basically all that is left is a bunch of snowflakes offended by almost anything and a few holdouts living on borrowed time if they continue to express their beliefs.

Oh yea, Fuck You Billryan.

I found it hilarious that people are still triggered by an avatar months after I ceased participating over there. When Mike told me about the complaints in person I couldn't believe it. This just proves the absurdity of the crowd still participating in the clown show.
There's a core group of nonstop whiners that have been catered to resulting in the total destruction of a once good resource. Pretty much sums up everything progressive liberals infest.

I guess the avatar still showed on old posts I thanked in the past. Keep in mind I stopped participating in that cesspool before the mass exodus.

[kewlJ]

I found it hilarious that people are still triggered by an avatar months after I ceased participating over there. When Mike told me about the complaints in person I couldn't believe it. This just proves the absurdity of the crowd still participating in the clown show.
There's a core group of nonstop whiners that have been catered to resulting in the total destruction of a once good resource. Pretty much sums up everything progressive liberals infest.

I guess the avatar still showed on old posts I thanked in the past. Keep in mind I stopped participating in that cesspool before the mass exodus.

MaxPen, since You are friends with Mr. Mike, can I ask when you socialize with him and talk of the forum (WoV) comes up, is he happy with the way the forum currently is? I mean it seems like a far cry from some of the statements he made when he started the forum, about being a place to share ideas and experiences in the hopes that everyone can become a better gambler/player. (something along those lines).

Obviously that is not what that forum is today. Is he happy about that or has he just given up and doesn't care?

Any of the other guys that have a relationship with Mike outside the forum can feel free to answer as well.

[MaxPen]

I found it hilarious that people are still triggered by an avatar months after I ceased participating over there. When Mike told me about the complaints in person I couldn't believe it. This just proves the absurdity of the crowd still participating in the clown show.
There's a core group of nonstop whiners that have been catered to resulting in the total destruction of a once good resource. Pretty much sums up everything progressive liberals infest.

I guess the avatar still showed on old posts I thanked in the past. Keep in mind I stopped participating in that cesspool before the mass exodus.

MaxPen, since You are friends with Mr. Mike, can I ask when you socialize with him and talk of the forum (WoV) comes up, is he happy with the way the forum currently is? I mean it seems like a far cry from some of the statements he made when he started the forum, about being a place to share ideas and experiences in the hopes that everyone can become a better gambler/player. (something along those lines).

Obviously that is not what that forum is today. Is he happy about that or has he just given up and doesn't care?

Any of the other guys that have a relationship with Mike outside the forum can feel free to answer as well.

I don't ever make it a habit to disclose publicly anything I discuss with others in private. But I don't spend a lot of time talking about forum stuff with anyone outside of the forum environment. Actually, if I could I would probably reword the response to Boz differently. There was maybe a 30 second back and forth on the matter. I understand Mike's position and I believe he understands mine.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, Mike is reachable. Why not ask him these questions yourself? And if the forum has changed for the worse, why still worry about it?

[Tasha]

Kew, Mike is reachable. Why not ask him these questions yourself? And if the forum has changed for the worse, why still worry about it?

KewlJ can't ask Wizard anything since he is banned from BOTH DT and WOV.

[monet]

Kew, Mike is reachable. Why not ask him these questions yourself? And if the forum has changed for the worse, why still worry about it?

KewlJ can't ask Wizard anything since he is banned from BOTH DT and WOV.

All you have to do is wait for the Wizard to tell you where he is going.
You can meet him on the strip or at burning man or many other places that he publicly proclaims.
His life is very public and it appears he likes it that way.

[jbjb]

With all the stupid gripes about political avatars over there, nobody said anything about RDW's presidential seal avatar.

[monet]

With all the stupid gripes about political avatars over there, nobody said anything about RDW's presidential seal avatar.

Those Fags at WoV are losing their cotton-picking minds.
Just ban all avatars so they can whine about something else.

[Keystone]

Agree...frankly, the Chinese Communist Party should be charged with crimes against humanity, but we all know that won’t happen. They bought off enough people in this world (especially the WHO).

I don't understand why the United States does any business whatsoever with China. Does everyone really need mega-numbers of ultra-cheap clothes and low-end tech? Couldn't we have meaningful lives owning less and paying more?

There's only ONE reason much of our products are manufactured in China: cheap labor and materials cost. Our corporations won't do anything about that unless forced. CEO's want to keep their lakeside summer homes, private jets, yachts, and easy alimony payments.

There's nothing wrong with calling this the Chinese Virus. That's where it started--in the barbaric wet markets in that backwards communist country. Nobody has a problem with the Spanish Flu which didn't even start in Spain, or the German Measles which is labeled that way only because German scientists discovered it. I believe we should call a chink a chink.

LOL

[House of Orange]

More evidence being reported on Washington Post that virus escaped Wuhan lab

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, Mike is reachable. Why not ask him these questions yourself? And if the forum has changed for the worse, why still worry about it?

KewlJ can't ask Wizard anything since he is banned from BOTH DT and WOV.

Who says to go thru a forum? He's reachable via email. Just look it up on one of his sites. I've contacted him twice in that manner over the years.

[The Boz]

Kew, Mike is reachable. Why not ask him these questions yourself? And if the forum has changed for the worse, why still worry about it?

KewlJ can't ask Wizard anything since he is banned from BOTH DT and WOV.

Who says to go thru a forum? He's reachable via email. Just look it up on one of his sites. I've contacted him twice in that manner over the years.

Like talking to the wall Rob, the moron has no common sense.

We all lose IQ when we read and reply to her gibberish.

[kewlJ]

Kew, Mike is reachable. Why not ask him these questions yourself? And if the forum has changed for the worse, why still worry about it?

KewlJ can't ask Wizard anything since he is banned from BOTH DT and WOV.

Who says to go thru a forum? He's reachable via email. Just look it up on one of his sites. I've contacted him twice in that manner over the years.

Not to me he is not reachable by email.

Look after my banning, I tried very hard to keep an avenue of communication open with Mike. For a while we communicated privately through PM at WoV. Then he got mad and cut that off. Then I created an account at his diversity forum and he immediately banned me and cut that off. I emailed him and he ignored me. I even went outside of my own comfort level and sent a letter to his residence in which I provided contact info, my phone and email, should he ever desire to open communication again. From that effort, I heard from others that he felt that crossed a line and felt threatened.

So I have done all I can do, short of showing up at his door, which I would never do or approaching him in public, which I also would never do. I have seen Mike, probably half dozen times in public, usually at a casino, including at least 3 times since he banned me and also including fairly recently, maybe 3 months ago. I am just not going to approach him, being that he has made it clear he is unwilling to communicate with me.

Yes I said some nasty things about Mike, especially earlier, but I honestly believe his issue is more that that. I think even mention of my name reminds him of exactly what occurred. Norm used him, plain and simple. Showed up at the forum, playing mike, pretending to be his friend, even calling in a favor to involve Mike in a feud that Mike never even knew what it was about. And then Norm simply cast Mike aside yet again, just as he had done 6 years prior and disappeared. None of that was my doing, really had nothing to do with me. That is between Mike and Norm, but it reminds Mike of that and he is way too insecure to revisit that publicly and try to move forward. So he handles it by pretending I don't exist and gets furious when someone mentions my name.

[LMR]

Like talking to the wall Rob, the moron has no common sense.

We all lose IQ when we read and reply to her gibberish.

Yeah, like taking the Wizard and co. seriously for a decade, only to discover what others have said about him, from the outset; then, confronting Singer over, supposedly, an impossibly big dick; and, say, then, moving permanently over here to try to, finally, make sense of the real world. I remember, it wasn't that long ago, when Singer, the guy who's going to live to 120, called you guys "rejects" from the Wizard's site. I recall also the days here that KJ, Redietz, and Crimm were the inseparable "three wise men". Now jb's is back to tell us all that he's addicted to gambling. Gee, and, I'm still waiting for that "breaking story" about none of 14,000 Lupus patients contracting the virus. Oh, and now we have Monet telling us he bought 11 lbs of this, 6 lbs of that, and another 5 lbs of something else. I guess that also Nathan has you guys by the "balls". Hehehe.

[Rob.Singer]

Like talking to the wall Rob, the moron has no common sense.

We all lose IQ when we read and reply to her gibberish.

Yeah, like taking the Wizard and co. seriously for a decade, only to discover what others have said about him, from the outset; then, confronting Singer over, supposedly, an impossibly big dick; and, say, then, moving permanently over here to try to, finally, make sense of the real world. I remember, it wasn't that long ago, when Singer, the guy who's going to live to 120, called you guys "rejects" from the Wizard's site. I recall also the days here that KJ, Redietz, and Crimm were the inseparable "three wise men". Now jb's is back to tell us all that he's addicted to gambling. Gee, and, I'm still waiting for that "breaking story" about none of 14,000 Lupus patients contracting the virus. Oh, and now we have Monet telling us he bought 11 lbs of this, 6 lbs of that, and another 5 lbs of something else. I guess that also Nathan has you guys by the "balls". Hehehe.

None of that ramble makes any sense, except for the reference about the tool I pack.

Apparently, Tasha couldn't figure out how to locate the balls on a man.

[mickeycrimm]

The same WoV idiots that argued some avatars were offensive or political are now arguing that the gay flag is not political. All flags that are symbols of a movement are political. These same idiots are really pissed that an avatar with the gay flag on it has been called into question and a request has been made for its removal. They are up in arms about it.

Let this be a lesson to libtards. You can't have your cake and eat it to. You are the ones that wanted political avatars to be removed. Be careful what you wish for. The gay flag is a symbol of a political movement. It must come down. Stick your phony ass argument that it is not political up your asses.

BTW, my new avatar is in honor of Darkie (darkoz) now being a member here. Hey, darkie, it's the flag of the great state of Mississippi. That's where I'm from. You want me to take it down? Kiss off.

[blackhole]

Look after my banning, I tried very hard to keep an avenue of communication open with Mike. For a while we communicated privately through PM at WoV. Then he got mad and cut that off. Then I created an account at his diversity forum and he immediately banned me and cut that off. I emailed him and he ignored me. I even went outside of my own comfort level and sent a letter to his residence in which I provided contact info, my phone and email, should he ever desire to open communication again. From that effort, I heard from others that he felt that crossed a line and felt threatened.

So I have done all I can do, short of showing up at his door, which I would never do or approaching him in public, which I also would never do. I have seen Mike, probably half dozen times in public, usually at a casino, including at least 3 times since he banned me and also including fairly recently, maybe 3 months ago. I am just not going to approach him, being that he has made it clear he is unwilling to communicate with me.

I’m trying to behave in a reformed manner here so forgive me if it’s not acceptable yet. I might need more time to adjust.

Kewlj, after reading the above post I'm convinced you are a person with serious mental issues combined with being a fucking fool and stalker. If I was Mike and had that detailed information where you were, I would’ve hired a few knuckle heads to snap your knee caps to make certain I never run the risk of you ever approaching me. I’d force you to play BJ at a handicap friendly table.

You’re really making a fool and keep embarrassing yourself when you speak. Take Axel’s recent lead and shut the fuck up.