Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by monet View Post
Originally Posted by redietz View Post
I was attempting to give correct information.

Boz, I don't know your info sources, but you should re-check. It's been obvious since I mentioned it in my initial blog post on this (March 14, I think) that asymptomatic people were a big part of the transmission equation, based on the otherwise inexplicable transmission rates in Iran and Italy. If you're just discovering this, your info sources are seriously out of date. It had to be either asymptomatic transmission or airborne. https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ronavirus.html

The fascinating aspect of this is that someone usually reasonable like Boz ignores the accuracy of the information and assigns a personal motive (fear) for my reporting accurate information and having been correct each step of the way. There's a decent chance, first of all, that I've already had it, but I can't get an antibodies test here in Tennessee.

If I have not yet had it, I'm personally better off if everyone goes out and does what they want and as many people as possible get ill ASAP in the months ahead. That creates the fastest way for herd immunity to be established and would be the most convenient chain of events. My older relatives are all pretty much dead, so I'm not likely to give it to anyone family-wise. By Boz's reasoning, I should be relieved that Americans are being irresponsible. But that will mean tens of thousands of additional Americans will get ill and thousands will die, maybe tens of thousands. So, even though that's the most convenient chain of events for me, I'm not going to root for what's personally most convenient. I'm not some child at recess needing my Wal-Mart, sports pub, and trip to Dollywood.

The numbers, Boz, have not been "dropping by the day." That's what the model the White House is using predicts, but that is not what has happened. Check the Johns Hopkins coronavirus mapping. Florida opens their beaches back up, and their peak isn't for another two weeks, at the earliest. Protestors in Pennsylvania have a new slogan, "Jesus is my vaccine." Good luck with that.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

You have three countries not following protocols that other nations have followed. The UK, Sweden, and the U.S. The UK and U.S. are doing miserably. Sweden is up to bat.

That 60K deaths by August 4th model not only uses an artificial for-no-good-reason cutoff date, it's going to be wrong. That model assumes stay-in-place orders up until that August 4th date. So that has been blown to hell. It was going to be wrong, anyway. The virus will not be going on vacation August 4th, for those who are curious as to why that model is being quoted. And Boz, I was following the Stanford stuff weeks ago. You don't even understand the context. The "oh my God, it's much more widespread, this is great" headlines are a direct result of the comparison to the preliminary hard-to-believe low results, which I mentioned on this forum were so low I thought they had to be wrong. The recent Stanford results were many times the preliminary, but still really at the low end of what was expected a month ago. You're talking 5% penetration right now. The original projections were that California (and Stanford was testing Santa Clara) would be 50% plus penetration by the end of the year.
You never give any information about how this shutdown is going to cost Millions of people their businesses and jobs
Already has actually.
No information about how landlords are evicting people.
No information about how many people are out of food and money.
The Chinese Virus is bad and we get that.
However this idea of long term shutdown is worse.

This Redietz has no worry of Government Control or Civil Unrest.
Only the Virus is bad... very, very bad.

Where is the Redietz that drives his friends Lamborghini?
What happened to the Redietz with the (ahem) Street Connections?
What happened to the Redietz who was or was not going to make Singer "disappear"?
I miss that guy.
Worry of government control? Not me. I'm like Rick in Casablanca. I think that analogy covers all of your questions, Lamborghinis, streetwise, the works. To be fair, I never said I'd make "Singer" disappear. I never use that word.

What exactly concerns you, monet? Virtually every other government has protocols in place (with the exception of the UK, which was slow and paying the price, and Sweden). Virtually every other government expect its economy to handle the 12-18 months of the worst of this. But you don't think the U.S. can hunker down and survive economically? Because why? The U.S. is more vulnerable than Italy, or Spain, or Germany, or New Zealand? Really? We need to get those minimum-wage front-liners working so we can start back up for what reason exactly? If Italy can do it, if Germany can do it, why are you arguing that the U.S. economy is so weak?
What the fuck happened to you Red? 12-18 months? We should do what Italy does? Germany does? Fucking New Zealand?

How many TRILLIONS more do you want this country to go into debt for to save some lives that already have 1 foot in the grave? I thought at first some people were just being cautious but now I realize they are lunatics. And like you, have a political agenda here. You, Pelosi and other left wing nuts see opportunities to push an agenda. Nothing more.

I still wish I could get the antibodies test as I think I probably had it. But if not, I have no issue getting it and moving forward. For someone that is happy with a 1% edge, I have no issue playing with a 99% edge.

Shutting down the country for this was stupid and I blame politicians in both parties. I look forward to laughing about the hoax this was for 99.9% of Americans who will survive this and get the T-Shirt.

America still is the land of the free and home of the brave to me. Not the land of pussies afraid of the Boogeyman.