What Are You Doing During The Coronapocalypse?

[Bob21]

Watched the 5 part mini-series Chernobyl the last couple of days. This is a very good docu-series on HBO NOW. Most people think Reagan's defense buildup sank the Soviet Union. But Mikhail Gorbachev says Chernobyl was the real cause. It has to do with the Communist Party's cover-up of the truth of what happened at Chernobyl. People got tired of Communist Party lies. China is doing something similar with coronavirus.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrV...3dLjEPApy1sdk-

Mickey, i’m going to have to disagree with you on this one. The numbers speak for themselves. The Russians trying to keep up with Reagan’s military buildup is what eventually sank the Soviet Union. It’s that simple.

Of course the liberal press and Gorbachev aren’t going to give Reagan credit. That would mean they were wrong. I don’t know if you remember but at that time all the liberals were saying Reagan was leading us into World War III and what he was doing would never work. They wanted Reagan to negotiate with the Soviet Union like Carter was doing before him. What they really wanted was the United States to become like the Soviet Union.

Now that Reagan’s strategy was successful and Reagan was right, they’re trying to rewrite history. There is no way one little reactor catastrophe in Chernobyl, and it’s cover up, would lead to the downfall of USSR. It hurt that local area, yes, but it didn’t take down the Soviet Union.

[jpfromla]

Watched the 5 part mini-series Chernobyl the last couple of days. This is a very good docu-series on HBO NOW. Most people think Reagan's defense buildup sank the Soviet Union. But Mikhail Gorbachev says Chernobyl was the real cause. It has to do with the Communist Party's cover-up of the truth of what happened at Chernobyl. People got tired of Communist Party lies. China is doing something similar with coronavirus.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrV...3dLjEPApy1sdk-

Mickey, i’m going to have to disagree with you on this one. The numbers speak for themselves. The Russians trying to keep up with Reagan’s military buildup is what eventually sank the Soviet Union. It’s that simple.

Of course the liberal press and Gorbachev aren’t going to give Reagan credit. That would mean they were wrong. I don’t know if you remember but at that time all the liberals were saying Reagan was leading us into World War III and what he was doing would never work. They wanted Reagan to negotiate with the Soviet Union like Carter was doing before him. What they really wanted was the United States to become like the Soviet Union.

Now that Reagan’s strategy was successful and Reagan was right, they’re trying to rewrite history. There is no way one little reactor catastrophe in Chernobyl, and it’s cover up, would lead to the downfall of USSR. It hurt that local area, yes, but it didn’t take down the Soviet Union.

When has the mainstream media given credit to a Republican ever?

[mickeycrimm]

Watched the 5 part mini-series Chernobyl the last couple of days. This is a very good docu-series on HBO NOW. Most people think Reagan's defense buildup sank the Soviet Union. But Mikhail Gorbachev says Chernobyl was the real cause. It has to do with the Communist Party's cover-up of the truth of what happened at Chernobyl. People got tired of Communist Party lies. China is doing something similar with coronavirus.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrV...3dLjEPApy1sdk-

Mickey, i’m going to have to disagree with you on this one. The numbers speak for themselves. The Russians trying to keep up with Reagan’s military buildup is what eventually sank the Soviet Union. It’s that simple.

Of course the liberal press and Gorbachev aren’t going to give Reagan credit. That would mean they were wrong. I don’t know if you remember but at that time all the liberals were saying Reagan was leading us into World War III and what he was doing would never work. They wanted Reagan to negotiate with the Soviet Union like Carter was doing before him. What they really wanted was the United States to become like the Soviet Union.

Now that Reagan’s strategy was successful and Reagan was right, they’re trying to rewrite history. There is no way one little reactor catastrophe in Chernobyl, and it’s cover up, would lead to the downfall of USSR. It hurt that local area, yes, but it didn’t take down the Soviet Union.

Well, you are not disagreeing with me. You are disagreeing with Mikhail Gorbachev. And "one little reactor catastrophe" is far from what happened. It was the worst nuclear disaster in history. It was rated as maximum severity. Over 1000 square miles was contaminated. They worked feverishly to keep the contamination out of the Usk River which dumps into the Pripyat River which dumps into the Dnieper River which dumps into the Black Sea. Had the radiation reached that far downstream it would have uprooted 50 million people. The clean up is projected to last until 2065.

[Bob21]

Watched the 5 part mini-series Chernobyl the last couple of days. This is a very good docu-series on HBO NOW. Most people think Reagan's defense buildup sank the Soviet Union. But Mikhail Gorbachev says Chernobyl was the real cause. It has to do with the Communist Party's cover-up of the truth of what happened at Chernobyl. People got tired of Communist Party lies. China is doing something similar with coronavirus.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrV...3dLjEPApy1sdk-

Mickey, i’m going to have to disagree with you on this one. The numbers speak for themselves. The Russians trying to keep up with Reagan’s military buildup is what eventually sank the Soviet Union. It’s that simple.

Of course the liberal press and Gorbachev aren’t going to give Reagan credit. That would mean they were wrong. I don’t know if you remember but at that time all the liberals were saying Reagan was leading us into World War III and what he was doing would never work. They wanted Reagan to negotiate with the Soviet Union like Carter was doing before him. What they really wanted was the United States to become like the Soviet Union.

Now that Reagan’s strategy was successful and Reagan was right, they’re trying to rewrite history. There is no way one little reactor catastrophe in Chernobyl, and it’s cover up, would lead to the downfall of USSR. It hurt that local area, yes, but it didn’t take down the Soviet Union.

Well, you are not disagreeing with me. You are disagreeing with Mikhail Gorbachev. And "one little reactor catastrophe" is far from what happened. It was the worst nuclear disaster in history. It was rated as maximum severity. Over 1000 square miles was contaminated. They worked feverishly to keep the contamination out of the Usk River which dumps into the Pripyat River which dumps into the Dnieper River which dumps into the Black Sea. Had the radiation reached that far downstream it would have uprooted 50 million people. The clean up is projected to last until 2065.

Valid point. I meant to say HBO and Gorbachev got it wrong. I understand it wasn't "one little reactor catastrophe"...that was a poor choice of words. I meant that statement more in a sarcastic way. I get it was bad; it was one of only two nuclear disasters that was rated a class 7. The other one was in Japan in 2011, called Fukushima. I don't remember Japan having a regime change due to that disaster.

As far why Soviet Union collapsed, there were many reasons, but the main one was Reagan's policies. The Soviet Union would have collapsed eventually since it's a failed model, but Reagan definitely sped up the process.

When Reagan took over, he went away from the "containment policy", which had been our policy for 35 years with USSR. And to the "lets defeat them policy", which had the liberals scared shitless, just like they are today with this virus. Reagan's policy from his own words: "We win and they lose". Reagan was not scared of Russia, and he backed up his words with a strong military.

As I'm sure you remember, we had a huge military buildup during that time, and confronted Soviet Union through out the world, freeing Grenada with an invasion. One of Reagan's main military initiatives was Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), which had the liberals scared because they thought it could lead to a war with Russia. They made fun of it by calling it Star Wars. The Soviet Union tried to keep up with our military spending and technology, but couldn't which hastened their fall.

Today many liberals try to give some credit to Gorbachev, calling him a liberal Democrat. The following article points out he was a modern Leninst, like many liberals today. The following is one of the best articles I found on Reagan's impact on the Fall of Soviet Union and Communism.

https://www.heritage.org/report/rona...fall-communism

It mentions the Chernobyl disaster, but this was just one of many things going wrong in Russia. Reading this article makes you proud to be an American. It's nice to revisit history from time to time and remember what our country stands for.