A question for Mr Singer

[Rob.Singer]

I am not trying to be mean to Alan. Alan can be a good contributor, when he sets aside any biases that he may have and participates objectively. I also enjoy some of his gambling experiences that he shares, as I do with most people, AP or recreational gambler.

But Alan also has a darker side and I am not referring to any kind of gambling problem. Once he decides to challenge or question someone, he throws all objectively (and honesty and integrity) out the window. He becomes extremely biased and will stoop to any level. I have witnessed and been victim to this several times. And once he gets into this mode, there is no turning back. He will hold a grudge and be out to "get" you for a very long time. It is Rob who is currently in Alan's sights and that is playing out now.

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

[kewlJ]

I am not trying to be mean to Alan. Alan can be a good contributor, when he sets aside any biases that he may have and participates objectively. I also enjoy some of his gambling experiences that he shares, as I do with most people, AP or recreational gambler.

But Alan also has a darker side and I am not referring to any kind of gambling problem. Once he decides to challenge or question someone, he throws all objectively (and honesty and integrity) out the window. He becomes extremely biased and will stoop to any level. I have witnessed and been victim to this several times. And once he gets into this mode, there is no turning back. He will hold a grudge and be out to "get" you for a very long time. It is Rob who is currently in Alan's sights and that is playing out now.

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

First Rob, you are still denying that Miss Friday (I believe was the name) was not you? How pathetic. And now you are accusing me of lying about it. News flash Rob! It was Dan Druff who identified and publicly stated that Miss Friday was Rob Singer. But....I guess Dan Druff was lying. Everyone else is always lying and everyone is always out to get you.

And you know what it is that proves these things? Time. While it may not seem quite so crystal clear at the time, as time passes and you see that a "miss Friday", claiming to be a relator, only showed up to back up things you said about me getting a mortgage...things that were demonstratively incorrect, so you needed to invent a pretend person to back you up. Did you have pretend friends when you were a child back in 1910?

When a person (or sock) only shows to weigh in on a specific issue like this, and then disappears, it becomes more than obvious as to what is going on. Time is the great revealer. Kind of similarly to the QFIT thing at WoV. Time has revealed what his real intention was.

As for Alan, and GF's, I have no knowledge of any of that, other than what he posted and I don't remember him posting about a GF throwing him out. So if you know something like this for sure, it is you using info from private discussions to again, twist the knife a little further. Why do you have the need to do that? And why would that make you feel better? Rob, THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

One just can't help but wonder....IF you have this successful life before your gambling claims, and a significant retirement income and then add in millions of dollars in gambling claims on top, why would a 70 year old man be so insure that he takes pleasure in something like this. Most revealing Rob.

[Bob21]

THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

Kj, just so I’m clear on your use of words. When you call someone “insecure” is that the same as when you call them “small”? You’ve called a lot of people “small” on this forum too. Is that because you think they are midgets or because they’re insecure? Thanks for the clarification.

[The Boz]

I am not trying to be mean to Alan. Alan can be a good contributor, when he sets aside any biases that he may have and participates objectively. I also enjoy some of his gambling experiences that he shares, as I do with most people, AP or recreational gambler.

But Alan also has a darker side and I am not referring to any kind of gambling problem. Once he decides to challenge or question someone, he throws all objectively (and honesty and integrity) out the window. He becomes extremely biased and will stoop to any level. I have witnessed and been victim to this several times. And once he gets into this mode, there is no turning back. He will hold a grudge and be out to "get" you for a very long time. It is Rob who is currently in Alan's sights and that is playing out now.

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

First Rob, you are still denying that Miss Friday (I believe was the name) was not you? How pathetic. And now you are accusing me of lying about it. News flash Rob! It was Dan Druff who identified and publicly stated that Miss Friday was Rob Singer. But....I guess Dan Druff was lying. Everyone else is always lying and everyone is always out to get you.

And you know what it is that proves these things? Time. While it may not seem quite so crystal clear at the time, as time passes and you see that a "miss Friday", claiming to be a relator, only showed up to back up things you said about me getting a mortgage...things that were demonstratively incorrect, so you needed to invent a pretend person to back you up. Did you have pretend friends when you were a child back in 1910?

When a person (or sock) only shows to weigh in on a specific issue like this, and then disappears, it becomes more than obvious as to what is going on. Time is the great revealer. Kind of similarly to the QFIT thing at WoV. Time has revealed what his real intention was.

As for Alan, and GF's, I have no knowledge of any of that, other than what he posted and I don't remember him posting about a GF throwing him out. So if you know something like this for sure, it is you using info from private discussions to again, twist the knife a little further. Why do you have the need to do that? And why would that make you feel better? Rob, THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

One just can't help but wonder....IF you have this successful life before your gambling claims, and a significant retirement income and then add in millions of dollars in gambling claims on top, why would a 70 year old man be so insure that he takes pleasure in something like this. Most revealing Rob.

Because some of us are BORED during this “crisis” and at others times. Successful people are used to working and having a purpose in life. Retirement changes that and some like me have no clue what to do. Money isn’t a lot of use right now if you can’t spend it.

As for taking pleasure at someone else’s misery as you say, I don’t see it as that. We have no clue if Alan is miserable or not, unless you read between the lines or get incite from people who know him. Or when a son comes on a site and complains about issues.

I don’t blame Rob on bIt on hitting back at Alan. As you said, you have been a target of Alan. It’s natural to defend yourself when someone comes after you. Alan is a big boy, even if he is too much of a pussy to admit he is Andrew. Hell he even said he was done here but keeps coming back.

How is it any different than all the times you say you were done here, but keep coming back? You know you are going to take shit every time, but every time you keep coming back. As a wise man once said, you are a Drama Queen and enjoy it.

As for Singer, I’ve called him plenty of shit for his claims on his “system”. But you will never find any statement from me on the Double Up because I have no educated clue on it. I know the math didn’t work on his system but on this I trust the people he talked to on it and if they believe it’s possible he did it, that’s good enough for me.

I always knew the guy had money, people without it don’t talk about retirement accounts, pensions and the other stuff he is very educated one. People may not like it, but the guy isn’t poor.

And we have all called each other shit we may want to take back over the years, but if you continue to come here, you are opening yourself up to the abuse. But we all don’t have “Kick Me” signs on our back like Alan. But in this case, he put it there himself.

Or as another wise man once said....Fun is best had at the expense of others less fortunate than yourself.

Perhaps he had Alan in mind when he wrote it.

[kewlJ]

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

First Rob, you are still denying that Miss Friday (I believe was the name) was not you? How pathetic. And now you are accusing me of lying about it. News flash Rob! It was Dan Druff who identified and publicly stated that Miss Friday was Rob Singer. But....I guess Dan Druff was lying. Everyone else is always lying and everyone is always out to get you.

And you know what it is that proves these things? Time. While it may not seem quite so crystal clear at the time, as time passes and you see that a "miss Friday", claiming to be a relator, only showed up to back up things you said about me getting a mortgage...things that were demonstratively incorrect, so you needed to invent a pretend person to back you up. Did you have pretend friends when you were a child back in 1910?

When a person (or sock) only shows to weigh in on a specific issue like this, and then disappears, it becomes more than obvious as to what is going on. Time is the great revealer. Kind of similarly to the QFIT thing at WoV. Time has revealed what his real intention was.

As for Alan, and GF's, I have no knowledge of any of that, other than what he posted and I don't remember him posting about a GF throwing him out. So if you know something like this for sure, it is you using info from private discussions to again, twist the knife a little further. Why do you have the need to do that? And why would that make you feel better? Rob, THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

One just can't help but wonder....IF you have this successful life before your gambling claims, and a significant retirement income and then add in millions of dollars in gambling claims on top, why would a 70 year old man be so insure that he takes pleasure in something like this. Most revealing Rob.

Because some of us are BORED during this “crisis” and at others times. Successful people are used to working and having a purpose in life. Retirement changes that and some like me have no clue what to do. Money isn’t a lot of use right now if you can’t spend it.

As for taking pleasure at someone else’s misery as you say, I don’t see it as that. We have no clue if Alan is miserable or not, unless you read between the lines or get incite from people who know him. Or when a son comes on a site and complains about issues.

I don’t blame Rob on bIt on hitting back at Alan. As you said, you have been a target of Alan. It’s natural to defend yourself when someone comes after you. Alan is a big boy, even if he is too much of a pussy to admit he is Andrew. Hell he even said he was done here but keeps coming back.

How is it any different than all the times you say you were done here, but keep coming back? You know you are going to take shit every time, but every time you keep coming back. As a wise man once said, you are a Drama Queen and enjoy it.

As for Singer, I’ve called him plenty of shit for his claims on his “system”. But you will never find any statement from me on the Double Up because I have no educated clue on it. I know the math didn’t work on his system but on this I trust the people he talked to on it and if they believe it’s possible he did it, that’s good enough for me.

I always knew the guy had money, people without it don’t talk about retirement accounts, pensions and the other stuff he is very educated one. People may not like it, but the guy isn’t poor.

And we have all called each other shit we may want to take back over the years, but if you continue to come here, you are opening yourself up to the abuse. But we all don’t have “Kick Me” signs on our back like Alan. But in this case, he put it there himself.

Or as another wise man once said....Fun is best had at the expense of others less fortunate than yourself.

Perhaps he had Alan in mind when he wrote it.

You make some good points that I agree with Boz and naturally some I don't.

Let's start with me, because it is always about me. Yes, I sometimes, make that frequently, get fed up and either ask myself or sometimes more publicly, why I put myself through this crap....why any of us do? Sometimes I stop posting and obviously return for whatever reason. I am guessing on some level all of us have an unhealthy relationship with the forums.

You say Rob has knowledge of retirement accounts and pensions. He also has extensive knowledge of the snap food stamp program sharing things over the years I had no idea about. Of course he exposed this "knowledge" as he was trying to put others down, saying they were on the program, usually mickeycrimm, but in doing so he exposed extensive knowledge of the program that you, nor I or any reasonably successful person would have. That doesn't mean that Rob does or doesn't have good retirement accounts and/or pension and or made millions from the casinos in one way or another, but it is a curious piece that doesn't fit. You can even say the same thing about his eviction and legal judgement for not paying rent. Rob will tell you that was in the late 1990's, before he made millions from the casinos, but according to his life claim, he had a high paying government job at the time. Is an eviction consistent with that? Why is this important, because it goes to credibility and this person has a long history of lying about everything big and small.

So while I don't know if his double up bug claim is true, partially true or stolen when it became public knowledge with Rob being able to fill in some gaps, I personally start with skepticism based on 20 years of untruthfulness about almost everything out of his mouth.

Now speaking of retirement, I find your retirement comments troubling. I mean we all work hard in life. You worked hard, successfully built and ran a business for many years from what I understand. And now you get to retirement that you have been chasing and working for and you are bored and the only thing you can find to fill the void is trolling entertainment on internet forums? Again, we all have an unhealthy association with this but come on Boz, those comments scare me, not only for you, but I am hoping like hell that isn't what I have to look forward to. Life doesn't stop when you retire...it should start!

[The Boz]

First Rob, you are still denying that Miss Friday (I believe was the name) was not you? How pathetic. And now you are accusing me of lying about it. News flash Rob! It was Dan Druff who identified and publicly stated that Miss Friday was Rob Singer. But....I guess Dan Druff was lying. Everyone else is always lying and everyone is always out to get you.

And you know what it is that proves these things? Time. While it may not seem quite so crystal clear at the time, as time passes and you see that a "miss Friday", claiming to be a relator, only showed up to back up things you said about me getting a mortgage...things that were demonstratively incorrect, so you needed to invent a pretend person to back you up. Did you have pretend friends when you were a child back in 1910?

When a person (or sock) only shows to weigh in on a specific issue like this, and then disappears, it becomes more than obvious as to what is going on. Time is the great revealer. Kind of similarly to the QFIT thing at WoV. Time has revealed what his real intention was.

As for Alan, and GF's, I have no knowledge of any of that, other than what he posted and I don't remember him posting about a GF throwing him out. So if you know something like this for sure, it is you using info from private discussions to again, twist the knife a little further. Why do you have the need to do that? And why would that make you feel better? Rob, THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

One just can't help but wonder....IF you have this successful life before your gambling claims, and a significant retirement income and then add in millions of dollars in gambling claims on top, why would a 70 year old man be so insure that he takes pleasure in something like this. Most revealing Rob.

Because some of us are BORED during this “crisis” and at others times. Successful people are used to working and having a purpose in life. Retirement changes that and some like me have no clue what to do. Money isn’t a lot of use right now if you can’t spend it.

As for taking pleasure at someone else’s misery as you say, I don’t see it as that. We have no clue if Alan is miserable or not, unless you read between the lines or get incite from people who know him. Or when a son comes on a site and complains about issues.

I don’t blame Rob on bIt on hitting back at Alan. As you said, you have been a target of Alan. It’s natural to defend yourself when someone comes after you. Alan is a big boy, even if he is too much of a pussy to admit he is Andrew. Hell he even said he was done here but keeps coming back.

How is it any different than all the times you say you were done here, but keep coming back? You know you are going to take shit every time, but every time you keep coming back. As a wise man once said, you are a Drama Queen and enjoy it.

As for Singer, I’ve called him plenty of shit for his claims on his “system”. But you will never find any statement from me on the Double Up because I have no educated clue on it. I know the math didn’t work on his system but on this I trust the people he talked to on it and if they believe it’s possible he did it, that’s good enough for me.

I always knew the guy had money, people without it don’t talk about retirement accounts, pensions and the other stuff he is very educated one. People may not like it, but the guy isn’t poor.

And we have all called each other shit we may want to take back over the years, but if you continue to come here, you are opening yourself up to the abuse. But we all don’t have “Kick Me” signs on our back like Alan. But in this case, he put it there himself.

Or as another wise man once said....Fun is best had at the expense of others less fortunate than yourself.

Perhaps he had Alan in mind when he wrote it.

You make some good points that I agree with Boz and naturally some I don't.

Let's start with me, because it is always about me. Yes, I sometimes, make that frequently, get fed up and either ask myself or sometimes more publicly, why I put myself through this crap....why any of us do? Sometimes I stop posting and obviously return for whatever reason. I am guessing on some level all of us have an unhealthy relationship with the forums.

You say Rob has knowledge of retirement accounts and pensions. He also has extensive knowledge of the snap food stamp program sharing things over the years I had no idea about. Of course he exposed this "knowledge" as he was trying to put others down, saying they were on the program, usually mickeycrimm, but in doing so he exposed extensive knowledge of the program that you, nor I or any reasonably successful person would have. That doesn't mean that Rob does or doesn't have good retirement accounts and/or pension and or made millions from the casinos in one way or another, but it is a curious piece that doesn't fit. You can even say the same thing about his eviction and legal judgement for not paying rent. Rob will tell you that was in the late 1990's, before he made millions from the casinos, but according to his life claim, he had a high paying government job at the time. Is an eviction consistent with that? Why is this important, because it goes to credibility and this person has a long history of lying about everything big and small.

So while I don't know if his double up bug claim is true, partially true or stolen when it became public knowledge with Rob being able to fill in some gaps, I personally start with skepticism based on 20 years of untruthfulness about almost everything out of his mouth.

Now speaking of retirement, I find your retirement comments troubling. I mean we all work hard in life. You worked hard, successfully built and ran a business for many years from what I understand. And now you get to retirement that you have been chasing and working for and you are bored and the only thing you can find to fill the void is trolling entertainment on internet forums? Again, we all have an unhealthy association with this but come on Boz, those comments scare me, not only for you, but I am hoping like hell that isn't what I have to look forward to. Life doesn't stop when you retire...it should start!

Good stuff and not much to argue with.

As for the boredom I should have added it’s mostly due to the current CV situation. I had a lot of plans cancelled. I planned on being in Florida for all of Spring Training and came home early once everything got cancelled. I would have been in Tahoe much of this month and was planning on helping a friend at his business when home to get out.

I’m flying back to Florida shortly for a quick trip to handle a few things I left open when I left on short notice. Flights are cheap and I have no fear. I saved hundreds of thousands of miles from using Cards for business over the years and will use them. Also the airlines reduced the miles needed for elite status this year and extended current status until January 2022, so it’s a win/win situation to visit the country.

No one is ready to be stuck in the house 23 hours a day. That’s not retirement, that’s punishment.

[BoSox]

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

First Rob, you are still denying that Miss Friday (I believe was the name) was not you? How pathetic. And now you are accusing me of lying about it. News flash Rob! It was Dan Druff who identified and publicly stated that Miss Friday was Rob Singer. But....I guess Dan Druff was lying. Everyone else is always lying and everyone is always out to get you.

And you know what it is that proves these things? Time. While it may not seem quite so crystal clear at the time, as time passes and you see that a "miss Friday", claiming to be a relator, only showed up to back up things you said about me getting a mortgage...things that were demonstratively incorrect, so you needed to invent a pretend person to back you up. Did you have pretend friends when you were a child back in 1910?

When a person (or sock) only shows to weigh in on a specific issue like this, and then disappears, it becomes more than obvious as to what is going on. Time is the great revealer. Kind of similarly to the QFIT thing at WoV. Time has revealed what his real intention was.

As for Alan, and GF's, I have no knowledge of any of that, other than what he posted and I don't remember him posting about a GF throwing him out. So if you know something like this for sure, it is you using info from private discussions to again, twist the knife a little further. Why do you have the need to do that? And why would that make you feel better? Rob, THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

One just can't help but wonder....IF you have this successful life before your gambling claims, and a significant retirement income and then add in millions of dollars in gambling claims on top, why would a 70 year old man be so insure that he takes pleasure in something like this. Most revealing Rob.

How is it any different than all the times you say you were done here, but keep coming back? You know you are going to take shit every time, but every time you keep coming back. As a wise man once said, you are a Drama Queen and enjoy it.

The latest time KJ anounced that he was leaving the board was this week on Thursday 04/23/2020 in a reply to mickey when he wrote the following:

Originally Posted by kewlJ

"So I haven't posted because I just wasn't up to dealing with this forum and the bi-partisan nonsense. And now that I am feeling better, I think this is a good time for me to step away. No hard feeling towards anyone or anything....this forum just has nothing to do with gambling or any kind of talk of gambling, Las Vegas or anything related. Just none. It used to have some, but now every single thread is either about or hijacked into partisan politics. And that really does nothing for me. So you guys can just go at it and do your thing."

KJ, you made it one full day without posting, good job! That is considered satisfactory.

[kewlJ]

First Rob, you are still denying that Miss Friday (I believe was the name) was not you? How pathetic. And now you are accusing me of lying about it. News flash Rob! It was Dan Druff who identified and publicly stated that Miss Friday was Rob Singer. But....I guess Dan Druff was lying. Everyone else is always lying and everyone is always out to get you.

And you know what it is that proves these things? Time. While it may not seem quite so crystal clear at the time, as time passes and you see that a "miss Friday", claiming to be a relator, only showed up to back up things you said about me getting a mortgage...things that were demonstratively incorrect, so you needed to invent a pretend person to back you up. Did you have pretend friends when you were a child back in 1910?

When a person (or sock) only shows to weigh in on a specific issue like this, and then disappears, it becomes more than obvious as to what is going on. Time is the great revealer. Kind of similarly to the QFIT thing at WoV. Time has revealed what his real intention was.

As for Alan, and GF's, I have no knowledge of any of that, other than what he posted and I don't remember him posting about a GF throwing him out. So if you know something like this for sure, it is you using info from private discussions to again, twist the knife a little further. Why do you have the need to do that? And why would that make you feel better? Rob, THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

One just can't help but wonder....IF you have this successful life before your gambling claims, and a significant retirement income and then add in millions of dollars in gambling claims on top, why would a 70 year old man be so insure that he takes pleasure in something like this. Most revealing Rob.

How is it any different than all the times you say you were done here, but keep coming back? You know you are going to take shit every time, but every time you keep coming back. As a wise man once said, you are a Drama Queen and enjoy it.

The latest time KJ anounced that he was leaving the board was this week on Thursday 04/23/2020 in a reply to mickey when he wrote the following:

Originally Posted by kewlJ

"So I haven't posted because I just wasn't up to dealing with this forum and the bi-partisan nonsense. And now that I am feeling better, I think this is a good time for me to step away. No hard feeling towards anyone or anything....this forum just has nothing to do with gambling or any kind of talk of gambling, Las Vegas or anything related. Just none. It used to have some, but now every single thread is either about or hijacked into partisan politics. And that really does nothing for me. So you guys can just go at it and do your thing."

KJ, you made it one full day without posting, good job! That is considered satisfactory.

Hey look my old friend BoSox is finally learning how to use the quote feature. And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Nope BoSox, I never said that. You are quoting it? Doesn't matter....never said it. very similarly to how the guy you worship, claims he didn't say something even when confronted with video that he did. FAKE NEWS BoSox! what you are claiming I said is FAKE NEWS!

That is comedic relief, but on a more serious note, this guy that you worship does frequently change his mind about all sorts of things. (sometimes from one sentence to the next ) Why am I not afforded that same option to change my mind if I wish.

[BoSox]

How is it any different than all the times you say you were done here, but keep coming back? You know you are going to take shit every time, but every time you keep coming back. As a wise man once said, you are a Drama Queen and enjoy it.

The latest time KJ anounced that he was leaving the board was this week on Thursday 04/23/2020 in a reply to mickey when he wrote the following:

Originally Posted by kewlJ

"So I haven't posted because I just wasn't up to dealing with this forum and the bi-partisan nonsense. And now that I am feeling better, I think this is a good time for me to step away. No hard feeling towards anyone or anything....this forum just has nothing to do with gambling or any kind of talk of gambling, Las Vegas or anything related. Just none. It used to have some, but now every single thread is either about or hijacked into partisan politics. And that really does nothing for me. So you guys can just go at it and do your thing."

KJ, you made it one full day without posting, good job! That is considered satisfactory.

Hey look my old friend BoSox is finally learning how to use the quote feature. And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Nope BoSox, I never said that. You are quoting it? Doesn't matter....never said it. very similarly to how the guy you worship, claims he didn't say something even when confronted with video that he did. FAKE NEWS BoSox! what you are claiming I said is FAKE NEWS!

That is comedic relief, but on a more serious note, this guy that you worship does frequently change his mind about all sorts of things. (sometimes from one sentence to the next ) Why am I not afforded that same option to change my mind if I wish.

The post is # 4100 in the WOV thread.

[Rob.Singer]

I am not trying to be mean to Alan. Alan can be a good contributor, when he sets aside any biases that he may have and participates objectively. I also enjoy some of his gambling experiences that he shares, as I do with most people, AP or recreational gambler.

But Alan also has a darker side and I am not referring to any kind of gambling problem. Once he decides to challenge or question someone, he throws all objectively (and honesty and integrity) out the window. He becomes extremely biased and will stoop to any level. I have witnessed and been victim to this several times. And once he gets into this mode, there is no turning back. He will hold a grudge and be out to "get" you for a very long time. It is Rob who is currently in Alan's sights and that is playing out now.

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

First Rob, you are still denying that Miss Friday (I believe was the name) was not you? How pathetic. And now you are accusing me of lying about it. News flash Rob! It was Dan Druff who identified and publicly stated that Miss Friday was Rob Singer. But....I guess Dan Druff was lying. Everyone else is always lying and everyone is always out to get you.

And you know what it is that proves these things? Time. While it may not seem quite so crystal clear at the time, as time passes and you see that a "miss Friday", claiming to be a relator, only showed up to back up things you said about me getting a mortgage...things that were demonstratively incorrect, so you needed to invent a pretend person to back you up. Did you have pretend friends when you were a child back in 1910?

When a person (or sock) only shows to weigh in on a specific issue like this, and then disappears, it becomes more than obvious as to what is going on. Time is the great revealer. Kind of similarly to the QFIT thing at WoV. Time has revealed what his real intention was.

As for Alan, and GF's, I have no knowledge of any of that, other than what he posted and I don't remember him posting about a GF throwing him out. So if you know something like this for sure, it is you using info from private discussions to again, twist the knife a little further. Why do you have the need to do that? And why would that make you feel better? Rob, THIS is the sign of a very insecure person.

One just can't help but wonder....IF you have this successful life before your gambling claims, and a significant retirement income and then add in millions of dollars in gambling claims on top, why would a 70 year old man be so insure that he takes pleasure in something like this. Most revealing Rob.

There's that insecure gene of yours showing up once again.

Dan never said he had evidence of Miss Friday? being me because she or he wasn't me. You lie about that because you just don't like that she caught you in a lie about yourself. The reason you seem to have all the details of that episode at your fingertips? Because it bothers the hell out of you that you were exposed in yet another lie about your concocted life. Caught in your own trap, in a matter of speaking.

More blind bs. Do you know why Alan's GF threw him out (he went to casinos and lost too much) and do you know why it's well known? BECAUSE JUST LIKE WHAT YOU AND OTHER WEAK & INSECURE PEOPLE ALWAYS DO, HE POSTED ABOUT IT EINSTEIN.

I take pleasure in wiping the floor with weak twits. Bad boy.

[Ozzy]

I am not trying to be mean to Alan. Alan can be a good contributor, when he sets aside any biases that he may have and participates objectively. I also enjoy some of his gambling experiences that he shares, as I do with most people, AP or recreational gambler.

But Alan also has a darker side and I am not referring to any kind of gambling problem. Once he decides to challenge or question someone, he throws all objectively (and honesty and integrity) out the window. He becomes extremely biased and will stoop to any level. I have witnessed and been victim to this several times. And once he gets into this mode, there is no turning back. He will hold a grudge and be out to "get" you for a very long time. It is Rob who is currently in Alan's sights and that is playing out now.

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

Come on Rob, come clean admit you were Jerry Logan, the most entertaining forum poster of all time.

[Rob.Singer]

I am not trying to be mean to Alan. Alan can be a good contributor, when he sets aside any biases that he may have and participates objectively. I also enjoy some of his gambling experiences that he shares, as I do with most people, AP or recreational gambler.

But Alan also has a darker side and I am not referring to any kind of gambling problem. Once he decides to challenge or question someone, he throws all objectively (and honesty and integrity) out the window. He becomes extremely biased and will stoop to any level. I have witnessed and been victim to this several times. And once he gets into this mode, there is no turning back. He will hold a grudge and be out to "get" you for a very long time. It is Rob who is currently in Alan's sights and that is playing out now.

The big difference kew is, I can handle it.

You keep saying I've used some aliases here and I never have. Why does your agenda at times have to be based on lies? It's really a toss-up over who's more insecure, unless and until they can make believe they're convincing others of how they want things to be perceived--you or Alan?

What I agree with you about is what Dan knows and how he's giving Alan a pass. His choice of course, although it does differ from what was said about socks. But if you don't count the place Alan's LV girlfriend threw him out of, he's only lived in one other place and posted as Alan from there. I don't believe he bothers with VPN's etc.

Come on Rob, come clean admit you were Jerry Logan, the most entertaining forum poster of all time.

I agree how entertaining he was and I wish I could take credit for that. But he was and still is a good friend of mine.