I also want to address something Dan Druff said. I have frequently called for Dan to ban Singer. But not because he is, intentionally misleading other players and members. I am fine with people in the community self-policing that as I do (something I wasn't allowed to do at Norms BJ forum). I think AP's and people that know the math have not only a right but a responsibility to call out someone intentionally misleading other players. So I am fine with being among that group that will constantly challenge such a person.

I am also fine with Rob or the guy on the other forum defending their position, scam or con as it may be. This is where it becomes the responsibility of players to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. But personal attacks of someone, their race, religion gender, sexual orientation and attacks on family members, and especially deceased family members is not defending you position. If THAT is all you got, then you pretty much have been exposed.

Now yes, I am aware that sadly many here seem to enjoy all the 3rd grade name calling. I find that sad. I mean is this a forum about and related to gambling /casinos /advantage play or is this recess at the elementary school with all the bullying that went with that?

So yes I have called on and will continue to call on Dan ban someone who's only purpose here is to degrade others.