[QUOTE=dannyj;104842][QUOTE=accountinquestion;104839]
Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
Originally Posted by danny

I hold the flag in reverence because it represents the greatest country the world has ever known. Will never understand why someone would want to burn it just because they could.
There are no concrete ideals and they [U]didn't fight for symbols[/U]. They fought for our country and the flag represents that.



Just because this country was great for you, doesn't meant it was great for everyone. If you'd read actual history, you can see how native americans were treated. Why should the American flag be such a great symbol to them? It isn't that hard to understand these things, if make a sincere effort to try and understand the perspective of your fellow man. Listening to you, 95% you're white. I actually understand what the Constitution is for, unlike some of you <cough> people. I'd much rather have had my ancestors fought for that, than to fight for a symbol. Thats where we are different.

To me, America represents freedom. I think that is a pretty concrete ideal. I guess you disagree.

If Americans were so goddam patriotic, they would have spent a bit more and not started buying every bit of cheap chinese shit they could get their hands on.
First Mr. Cunt, I didn’t say it was great for everyone. I said it was the greatest country in the history of the world. That is why so many people from all over the world try to get here. Legally as well as illegally.

Our ancestors did fight for the Country and it’s Constitution. Not for a symbol. Again, comprehension is not your strong suit Mr. Cunt, but please see where I highlighted what was said.

Not sure why you brought race into this other than you’re probably a self loathing racist.

America does represent the ideal of freedom. But it’s not a “pretty concrete” ideal. It’s an ideal. Semantics.
This ideal that our ancestors fought for is constantly being chipped away at by liberals like you Mr. Cunt.

So finally, while I don’t think you were being truthful when you said, “I have never voted for a democrat president in my life”, I’m betting you will this time. Good luck with that and your pretty concrete ideal of freedom, because Democrats and freedom don’t mix.
I think the concept of freedom is a pretty concrete ideal and it trumps the symbolism provided by the flag. You do everything you can to avoid this simple fact where we disagree. Acuntinquestion was cute, Mr Cunt! Oh you're burning me now Danny boy!

Very true. I vote third party. Either Libertarian or Green. Not sure why you keep bringing that up. What a retard.

Yea, I just reread our conversation. I am not seeing where I am missing anything. You say one thing, then don't really want to stick with it. I would defend freedom over the flag. You wouldn't, because flag means more than the freedom. I forget why this is came up, but just showing differing perspectives on liberal vs conservative.

Any time you hold a symbol in reverence, it was put there by someone to manipulate you. Maybe someone can come up with a counter-example, but it won't be this crowd.
Geez Cunt are you really this dense? I said our ancestors did fight for the Country and it’s Constitution. Not for a symbol. See where I highlighted in red for you this time genius.

And I never said the "symbolism provided by the flag" trumps the ideal of freedom. I also never said, the "flag means more than the freedom". So we don't disagree, other than you have to make up arguments where you think we are in disagreement. Pretty dishonest of you acuntinquestion. But then your ilk doesn't put a premium on honesty. Good luck with that Green party Cunt.
I don't think you are intelligent enough to know what your thoughts actually imply. Not really dishonest at all, I'm putting my whole thought process out there. I mean, you said you don't understand why anyone would ever want to burn the flag. I gave some examples. You ignored them, presumably because you don't want to admit anyone would have a justification. Whatever.. you're dense and this is a waste of time.