Originally Posted by mcap View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

Are you kidding me with this shit? Absolutely Eliot (teliot at WoV) is a traitor!

Eliot is a brilliant gambling math guy. I suppose math in general, but for our purposes gambling math. And he attempted to support himself from advantage play, in particular card counting as this was a number of years ago before the table game explosion AP opportunities. And he failed. It is my understanding he failed because he couldn't handle the swings and variance, not having anything to do with math. Just goes to show it takes more than a little math to be successful.

Anyway, when he failed he started working for the dark side. And you know what, you are right. There is nothing wrong with that, to some extent. Wong did it. Mike did it. Revere certainly did it.

But eliot took it to an extreme. He formed his own company and without even having any casino clients he wrote a book exposing all the advantage plays that he could think of in great detail. Newer things the casino industry was just starting to know existed, but didn't know about. Eliot explained step by step how all these different plays worked and the advantage. And he didn't even get paid for that. He gave that information away to the dark side for free (well the cost of his book). It was a pretty clear cut case of spite for those that were succeeding where he failed.

Later he started doing seminars for the casino industry for pay. AP's weren't even allowed in, although a pretty good number got in. It has been strongly suggested that he even sold out information of players and teams that he knew or knew of from his AP days. That part of it I can't swear to but I have heard it from some pretty reliable sources.

Bottom line is that he didn't go to work or consult with the casinos for the money. He sold out...everything he knew to spite AP's for very little financial gain. He is the very definition of the word traitor. He earned it and he deserves all the crap he gets for the rest of his life.
KJocchio is a mind reader so knows Eliot published advantage plays to spite pros. What an idiot. Once again KJocchio makes up shit out of thin air to spite someone. And while he lets others off the hook for working the darkside for some reason he wants to pick on Elliot. If I was Eliot I would track KJocchio down and bitch slap him a hundred times.
No you wouldn’t. You’d just keep being a fake internet tough guy. Something like “bitch, some gay stuff, the end.”
One of these days you might have a coherent thought. Not today though. Fuck off, moron.