Originally Posted by
accountinquestion
Originally Posted by
Bob21
Accountinquestion, I’ll take you up on your offer. Give me the charity, and I’ll send $100 to it. I hope it’s not some left-wing nut case charity, but even if it is I’ll follow through. It’s only $100 and I would be interested in what you think. I’m a conservative so I keep my word. I know this is a rare concept in liberal circles.
I have listened to a lot of conservatives and Candace brought up some good points I hadn’t heard before. Some sound silly on the surface, but they still make sense. One of her points is people in all professions make mistakes and have bad apples. There are no exceptions. That will never change. Do people protest against every institution with a bad apple? If they did, no one would get any work done in our country. We’d be protesting 24/7, just stopping to eat and sleep. The last part was my commentary.
The profession she concentrated on is doctors. It’s a good example to compare with police, since both professions can help people, but also can kill people. Docotrs kill by mistake and on purpose an estimated 270,000 people a year. Where is all the outrage of doctor’s killing people? Where are the “protests”; where are the riots?
Since there are no protests or riots, does that mean everybody is okay with doctors killing over a quarter million people a year? And there are serial doctors who murder people, including black people. Where’s the outrage? Why don’t these lives matter?
Her main point is the black culture is the only culture that caters to the lowest common denominator. No other culture, even Latino culture, defends the criminal element like blacks. She learned this from Shelby Steele, a black conservative. And yes, I got a couple of his books, along with several other white and black conservatives. I get my liberal opinions everyday from the media, so I know both sides.
I don’t sit in a silo only wanting to hear one side, and then spew out liberal propaganda.
Ok, I will think up a charity and give it to you then I will give this woman my full attention for 15 minutes or possibly slightly longer. I'll likely take your word on the donation because if you want to lie about such a thing then more power to you. Some sort of soup kitchen that has low overhead is something we should both agree on. If you want to make the payment and give me the charity name otherwise I'll need to find one first. I have a million things to do already, so it'll be a bit, so if you want to pick the soup-kitchen charity pay it and get the ball moving then I will follow through on my side.
The problem with the police is there is little accountability. They lie on reports to cover their tracks. There is a 2-tiered justice system, possibly 3. There is also a level of corruption. Good cops get weeded out because the rotten ones are never forced to leave. It just corrupts the whole system. The well meaning ones get worn down by the ones with seniority. My understanding is this happened in the Floyd case. These are government employees with more power than anyone.
The basic problem is the power / abilities ratio is way too high for cops. These are not our finest. The mainstream right wants to elevate these government employees but their job is not as dangerous as roofers and such. This and other things gives them a power that no one else in society has. You make all these other analogies with other professions but none of this is true. You can sue a doctor far more easily. They don't have qualified immunity.
I saw a video yesterday guys protesting. Cop told them to lower their flag becuase it might be used as a weapon. So he backs up. Then cop wants to give them a trespassing ticket. Thats not how public property works. So one guy is like sure mother fucker, here is my id. 2nd guy says, 'no, I don't have an id'. Then cop goes to arrest him over completely made up enforcement of laws. He pulls his taser out and tries to taze this guy. This is a man who wasn't violent and was not breaking the law. I wonder how much trouble the cop gets in? He should be fired. In private industry your ass wouldn't last very long doing shit like that. The escalation to the less than lethal use of force which actually ends up killing various people. All over a non-violent person who hadn't even broken a law. Only way to get that corrected is to get tazed, hope you don't get a serious head injury or allow yourself to be arrested under nonsensical enforcement. This shit happens all the time. You'll say you're not ok with it, but then on the other hand you disparage those who stand up against this sort of thing. You can't have both sides.
My favorite charity when it comes to helping the poor is the Salvation Army. Yes, they are Christian related, but they believe in action and helping those in need. If you look up the Salvantion Army’s record, the majority of your donation goes to the people in need. Growing up, my family always donated our furniture, clothes and other things we didn’t need to the Salavation Army; we never had garage sales.
I also worked for a summer for the Salvation Army, with New York City inner city at risk kids in a camp in New Jersey. Talk about an experience. I got to know some black counselers from the projects and even spent a weekend in a project in the Bronx with one since he invited me. We were good friends and he wanted me to see how his family lived.
We took the subway to where he lived Friday evening, and as we got closer to his home, the people on the subway looked less and less like me. I was the only white guy I saw that weekend, and this was during the late 70s when they were a lot of race riots. I survived that weekend, but it was something I would have never done had I known how bad it was, and how my life was at risk.
His mom was great, but the project where he lived was a complete shithole. His mom was a good cook and I had some of the best meals that weekend. His dad was in prison for killing someone so I never met him. It was hard to sleep that weekend with all the noise and yelling in the steeets. It seemed like anarchy.
After the weekend, he said if had he told me how bad it was and how much my life was at risk, he knew I wouldn’t have visited his project. He said he was pretty sure he could protect me too. That was good to know after the fact. Lol
I had some close calls that weekend but survived. He always had my back, or it could have been really bad. It’s something I’d only do one time in my life to say I did it.
So are you okay with the Salvation Army?