Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.

As has been mentioned, WoV is not the moneymaker of the sites. Again, I don't know whether or not it's independently profitable (that info has nothing to do with me), but that said...I don't think they hold Wizard accountable for actual traffic to that site. Even if they did, then they made a business decision followed by Wizard making a business decision---worst case scenario. It'll hardly be the first time someone has made a revenue-focused decision in business and this one should be harmless. Honestly, if so many people didn't despise Wizard completely, then nobody would have to pretend to actually care all that much.

And, if we assume your last couple of sentences are correct, wouldn't the (assumed) fact that Mickey would tell him to fuck himself play into the decision of whether or not to ask him?
I don’t speak for Mickey naturally, it’s just a feeling.

Of course we all know and understand WoV doesn’t make money unless there are a lot of lurkers who actually click on the sites. The majority of regular posters there do not use those sites, even if they believe there is money to be made online.

As for the Wizard, most everyone knows he is bad with money and it’s why he had to beg for cash like a hobo on the street. Selling to the Serbs was the best thing that ever happened to him. I understand you know them and say they are good guys. I just don’t trust people who promote illegal activities that flaunt US laws to make money that for the most part never comes back to our country.

Of course the US needs to legalize online casinos that pay taxes and are regulated like it is starting to happen in some states like PA and NJ. As for Axel and others saying they are a voice for online gamblers, I see that as BS. There is no regulation and he even admits you are taking a risk on getting paid. There is nothing they do that isn’t in their best financial interest. Again nothing wrong with this but to think they are looking out for players, it’s a naive thought.
I tend to agree with your feeling and also don't speak for Mickey. I wouldn't dare. He might be seventy and recently had a heart attack, but he's the sort of dude that would find a way to kick my ass if I crossed him. Totally old school. Love it.

I mostly agree with your second sentence, though I do think there are a lot of lurkers and not even all of which who sign in, create an account (on WoV) and what have you. I also have no idea what the revenue-sharing arrangements are, but I should imagine that they only really need a small percentage of traffic to use the gambling sites. I don't see how it would be sustainable otherwise. There are also other ways to make money on traffic info, cookies, targeted advertising, metadata collection, etc. etc. I don't know that they do those things, just that those things exist.

I'd be lying not to admit that some of whatever money is collected finds its way to me via getting paid to write for the family of sites. The only illegal activity, at least the only activity any level of Government would actually care about, has to do with the banks processing the stuff. Even then, the banks would have to know that's what they are processing for it to even be illegal. That's not to say there aren't state laws; there are and I have said as much in my writings...just that nobody really cares about individual people playing at online casinos. In some states, however, it's not even illegal to participate in unlawful gambling as long as you're doing it in the capacity of a player.

You take a risk on getting paid even with PA casinos, exception only to your initial deposit...which they can essentially free roll because if you lose, you just lose. I wrote a relatively recent article about the Terms & Conditions associated with one of them. The only real protection with that one is that, if you won money, they'd at least have to eventually give your initial deposit back...whatever else happens.