Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by Deech View Post
I am not a historian, but I need to comment on the phrase, "America, is why slavery, for the most part, does not exist today in the world.".

America was not the forerunner for society in the 1850's. Europe, not America, knew where America stood in the world positioning. America was not a leader in the efforts to abolish slavery.

As stated earlier, there was a pact in 1815, Congress of Vienna, that declared opposition to slavery. The countries included: UK, Portugal, Sweden, Norway, France, Austria, Russia, Spain, and Prussia. Yes, there are other smaller colonies that took the initiate before 1865.

The countries from that Congress of Vienna pact took years to implement their internal rules. They did it before on their own before 1865.

There are other countries as: Argentina, Peru, and Venezuela that passed the rule before America.

I am not political. Just stating facts (as far as I know).
But America WAS in the forefront of ending slavery. Abolitionists were here in the 1600's. Thomas Jefferson outlawed the importation of slaves during his presidency (1801-1809). As it developed, the northern states with a population above 20 million whites were free soil but the southern states with a population of about 4 million whites were not. Though they wanted to for decades the north could not end slavery because of the inordinate amount of political power the south wielded in the Senate.

The United States was all about ending slavery from our very beginning. Thomas Jefferson wanted to indict the King of England in the Declaration of Independence for carrying on the slave trade but was nixed by the Committee of Five because the slaveholding colonies were badly needed in the fight to separate from England.

The United States was at the forefront of ending slavery from our very beginning. Slaveholders represented about 1% of the population but because of their political power it took decades of political movement and a civil war to eradicate slaveholder's political and economic power and end slavery.

But the marxist dogma is always America bad. Isn't that right, Comrade Dietz?
Did the Civil War really and actually, ever, end? I think that you guys, in many more ways than one, are still fighting it. Anyway, all the infighting made you guys so strong that a dumb (fucking) virus took over. Lol.