Originally Posted by Ex-AP View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
I'm the only AP that ever wrote about a Bally video poker game called Draw Till U Win. It was a 103.2%. It went extinct about 14 years ago. Because of the strategy you had about a 33,000 chance of hitting a royal from the deal and draw. But you also had a chance to make a royal anytime your final hand was a non-paying 4-card royal. Examples:

As-Ks-Qs-Ts-7s or As-Ks-Qs-Ts-Jh or As-Ks-Qs-Ts-Ac were paying hands so didn't qualify.

As-Ks-Qs-Ts-5c was a non-paying 4-card royal so you got to draw one card at a time until you hit a pay. With this hand there are only 21 cards left in the deck that will make a paying hand, 8 flush cards, 3 straight cards, 9 high pair cards, and 1 royal card. So the chance of making the royal on the draw was 1 in 21. And it could be even lower than that. If you were dealt a 3-card royal then discarded a high pair card, and/or straight card, and/or flush card, then caught a 4th royal card on the draw, your odds of making the royal in the Draw Till U Win feature was 1 in 20 or 1 in 19.

The overall effect was reducing overall royals odds down to 9700. That was the problem with this game. If you played it heavily you averaged a royal a day. That brought a lot of attention to it from casino personnel. Some players were even accused of cheating and investigated by Gaming. I hit 3 royals in a day twice.

At Stockmen's in Fallon, Nevada my ole' buddy Al and i were playing side by side when he hit 4 royals in 4 hours. That was the end of Draw Till U Win at Stockmen's. At the Carson Valley Inn in Minden, Nevada, Doug Reul hit 6 royals in one day and wound up having to explain to Gaming how he did that.

It was fun while it lasted.
I played that game in Reno. It was Baldini’s in 2001. It had two guns as the icon. The over cycle for the Royal Flush was under 9,000 because you would break a pat flush if it had 4 to the Royal.
The royal frequency is 9700 according to the program/analyzer that Doug Reul, former writer for Video Poker Times, wrote for the game. Doug is the one that discovered the game was 103%. Your assertion that the royal freq. is under 9000 is wrong and I would point out that you break a pat flush for a four card royal at most all video poker games.

There are several reasons for the big reduction in royals odds (from 40K down to 9.7K).

First, you are drawing to more 2 and 3 card royals than normal video poker.

Second, when you wind up with a 4 card royal after the draw you get to draw one card at a time until you win. In normal video poker the hand would be over at that point.

Third, since you get to draw until you win it eliminates a lot of cards. In normal video poker the royal chances would be 1 in 47. But the non-paying cards are eliminated so the royal freq. is enhanced to 1 in 26 or better depending on how many pay cards you may have thrown away before the draw. And the 4 card royal with 4 high cards has at least a 1 in 23 chance.

It was a feeble attempt here by ex-ap to act like he knew anything about Draw Till U Win.