Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
I don't know why you would assume that only the big time advantage plays would be true.

I never said that only big-time AP plays would be true. That comment is just you trying to twist my words to fit your narrative.

I know you’ve read many of my posts in the past (since you responded to many) and know I don’t deny AP exists. There are all different levels of AP taking place. For example, there’s the well published roulette Phil Ivey level of AP (or maybe cheating however you want to look at it) worth millions. Another would be Don Johnson taking advantage by outsmarting casinos for millions playing BJ. Of course, there are many more well publicized AP moves from the past. It’s obvious all these plays won’t be duplicated unless current billion-dollar executives have been and still are living under a rock.

Now there’s the forum type of AP. For example, if what MickeyCrimm says is true which appears to be believable and what I like to call the 2-bit AP type. He also posted many examples of what he does. He works hard for his winnings. It requires a special type of personality. Being homeless, traveling the country side hitching onto trains, defending yourself against other homeless hobo’s, living in the woods. You could understand why he views his 2-bit AP success like winning the lottery. Yet, he truly earns it.

I’m certain there are also more lucrative AP plays that existed. We read about many of them too. I also understand once any AP play is exposed that play is usually over. But it’s the endless claims on forums of great success. Like Kewlj pulling off his BJ claims for over 15 years with 6-digit average annual wins without ever presenting a comp card. AxelAss with claims of decades of personal and team winnings. Then wants to attack anyone on the forums of claims of ever winning including other AP claims.

So, my comment quote “Personally, I think other than well published big-time advantage plays exposed in the past, most of forum AP’s are bullshitting, hustling, con artists.” Is exactly what I meant. If you need to come onto gambling forums and brag how clever and smart you are to beat casinos and live a lavish life is the true definition of a BULLSHIT ARTIST. This is also why I believe the PM backdoor must be an Advantage-Play in search of rookie suckers.

The truth of AP success or any other success can’t truly be measured till all the facts of that person’s life are considered. A millionaire today, a broken-down shoe on welfare the next.