Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
I live on the North Shore in Long Island New York. This is the average and median household income there.

Average Household Income $388,968.00
Median Household Income $250,001.00


Below is the average and median household income to live in Las Vegas.

Average Household Income $76,483.00
Median Household Income $54,694.00



Makes more sense why people in Las Vegas might be able to make a living playing slot machines, low end cautious card counting, scamming free play with multiple cards, counting on comps to eat, etc. etc.

Other than Monet who speaks of his family all the time (not sure if he mentioned any kids) most AP’s seem to never mention any family. I know what it cost to raise and educate only 2 boys fully insured for anything that could arise. The lack of family conversation indicates that most AP's on this site are single also explaining the ease to survive.

I believe there are special AP’s able to bang those slot machines for the big bucks. Look at Darkie who claims to make at least one million dollars per year. But you have to wonder how many are actually capable of such gambling accomplishments. If there were hundreds or thousands of AP’s pulling in this type of income, I’m sure the casinos would be more concerned and do something about it like they did to good video poker options. For some reason the casinos don't seem to concerned about the leak of their incomes to AP's. I'm guessing there's no reason to.

While I believe there are some heavy hitter AP’s, I can’t help but to think most are struggling and sweating bullets week to week. Don’t forget that link to those articles with the estimations are assumed income with the chance of total fail.
I have two children (biological) one stepdaughter.

Four grandchildren.

I even brought my daughter and grandkids to the WOV meetup. Turned it into a Vegas family vacation.

As for Casinos being concerned about the leakage, when they see it they are concerned. I have had a number of "wars" (they try to shut me down, I try to circumvent their methods) although I usually just move on these days. Too stressful and expensive those wars.

For the most part Casino staff are about modern convenience which means automation. No one wants to monitor thousands, tens of thousands of players card accounts. So it's possible when no one is looking (relying on the automated software that is) to sneak quite a few by.

Until it's discovered and then the Casino goes all hell to pay