I guess, I should amend the above where I said how often have we seen Wizard and Dan Druff call on members to, show something in regards to extreme claims. I said I have never seen it. How quickly we (I) forget the great Rob Singer now that he is gone. Both Wizard and Dan Druff called on Singer to produce something, some kind of supporting evidence in the last year. And rightfully so. Of course he couldn't, tried and failed at fabricating something and that is why he has disappeared. So it worked just as it should have. So Mdawg is number 2 that I can recall for each forum. And again, I will say rightfully so, in my opinion.