Kewlj's Fantasy Facts or Bullshit

[kewlJ]

It doesn't take long to see the pattern here. Blackhole just doesn't understand the concepts being discussed, not only things I have discussed, but most concepts involving advantage play gambling. Therefore his response is to denounce these things he can't grasp as fake.

Seems like it took you years to finally see the pattern. I'd avoid pursuing the psychology career and stick to card counting.

It is not my job to figure out what these guys are about. With someone like Blackhole it quickly becomes obvious he is bitter at life and it seems particularly any person that has made money from casinos.

From that you can guess he is a failed AP. I have even though maybe casino industry employee.

But it takes something like this thread to realize he just doesn't understand any of it. And that is the source of his bitterness.

[redietz]

It doesn't take long to see the pattern here. Blackhole just doesn't understand the concepts being discussed, not only things I have discussed, but most concepts involving advantage play gambling. Therefore his response is to denounce these things he can't grasp as fake.

I'm hoping blackhole expands his targeting because this is getting stale. Maybe start a thread debunking me. Then a thread debunking Singer. Then a thread debunking MDawg. I guess that's my problem with all this -- why not devote the same time to claims of Newells and winning 50 out of 52 sessions while walking away with six digits in six months?

And what about me? Surely a dude can't finish sixth out a couple thousand in one contest and sixth in another out of a couple thousand, and top 10 out of 20K in another, and second out of 275 in another, all in the same year. How likely is that? I'm feeling neglected.

[Mission146]

It is not my job to figure out what these guys are about. With someone like Blackhole it quickly becomes obvious he is bitter at life and it seems particularly any person that has made money from casinos.

From that you can guess he is a failed AP. I have even though maybe casino industry employee.

But it takes something like this thread to realize he just doesn't understand any of it. And that is the source of his bitterness.

It's okay; I'd be a similarly bad psychologist. Still took you much more time to crack the case than it took me.

The question, as you have started to try to answer, becomes why?

Oh, right, I don't give a fuck.

[blackhole]

So according to Kewlj he counts cards on average for 35 weeks a year. (250 days) The profits during this time with sometimes big wins / big losses, eventually average out to a net profit of $2,500.00 dollars each working week. He said he had a few 100K years which would average to about 3K profit per week.

I guess we’re to believe that while you play BJ and combined with your Houdini escape techniques, you winning 80K to 100K profit a year playing blackjack is going un-noticed by casino pits and surveillance for 11 years in Vegas, because those are tolerable casino amounts to lose to card counters? How many gifted card counters like you do you think exist in Vegas? God knows how many you taught and helped which you claim was your main reason for becoming a member of gambling forums in the first place.

Hang in there Kewlj, some good shit is coming up.

Mission, shouldn’t you be concentrating on writing some new gambling articles with hopes of luring immature gamblers to off-shore on-line casinos for the Serbian Mafia? Why you wasting so much time here on nonsense and deflections for Kewlj? I guess if you back-up Kewlj, some newbie gambling fools might think if he could pull this off in Vegas, imagine what they could do on-line. It’s obvious part of your job for your employer is to scan forums and promote the hope of beating casinos, and defend the self-proclaimed AP's who get challenged. You certainly do enough of that at the WOV. You’re the type of employee I always tried to find. Dedication was hard to come by.

[Mission146]

Mission, shouldn’t you be concentrating on writing some new gambling articles with hopes of luring immature gamblers to off-shore on-line casinos for the Serbian Mafia? Why you wasting so much time here on nonsense and deflections for Kewlj? I guess if you back-up Kewlj, some newbie gambling fools might think if he could pull this off in Vegas, imagine what they could do on-line. It’s obvious part of your job for your employer is to scan forums and promote the hope of beating casinos, and defend the self-proclaimed AP's who get challenged. You certainly do enough of that at the WOV. You’re the type of employee I always tried to find. Dedication was hard to come by.

Hey sweetheart, I was worried you wouldn't notice me again. Do you remember who I am today? Is the nurse keeping up with your bedpan? Does the eternal blackness get any darker the closer you get to it? I've yet to notice a change in hue, so I guess I'm not close enough. Wouldn't it be hilarious if, when you do eventually die, it was in the middle of typing up a rant for this sorry excuse for a message board?

...I mean, you talk about regrets in your last minutes...

1.) If we assume that your first sentence is what I, "Should be," doing, then given my lazy and procrastinating nature, it makes sense that I wouldn't presently be doing it. Actually, if you must know, I just woke up from a nap.

I didn't get to where I am doing the things I should and I'm not about to start now!

2.) I'm not deflecting anything for KewlJ. I have never met KewlJ or been presented with any concrete evidence as to the veracity of his claims. That's a similarity that the two of us have. One difference that the two of us have is that I don't give a fuck about KewlJ's claims because nothing about KewlJ's entire existence makes one speck of difference to me as it seems to with you. The only thing that I will say is that, if he were lying, his claims have remained remarkably consistent over such a long period of time. Most people would have come up with better, 'Self-contradictions,' than you have found digging into the posts of someone who is basically telling the truth.

But, you know, the mind usually doesn't take too long to follow the body in regression. Sometimes, the mind goes first.

3.) Online? As far as I know, card counting wouldn't be viable online, you stupid fuck. You're over there shitting your pants over Bloodhound and you think you'd easily get away with spreading your bets online?

---By the way, bedpan. Not your pants. Yes, I know it's the nurse's job either way.

4.) Scan forums? I read here and WoV...GamblingForums once a month maybe. I looked at PFA yesterday for the first time in three months or so. Do you know how many articles I could publish in an average month compared to how many I actually do?

Shoot me a PM if you need help. I'll pick a month, assuming you're still alive by then and actually be active in casinos and other places for a change. I can't be bothered, most days, because I don't care enough. I'll make a log and then send you 20% of my casino (and other place) winnings for that one month. You can use it to get some good snacks, or as a start towards replacement dentures, whatever.

Shit, if you don't have anyone who wants to come see you, maybe I'll even come and play you in a game of checkers or chess one day. You never know. Do you like 500 Rummy? All you have to do is send the PM and inquire. Go ahead and give my number to the world or get me spammed to death, changing it only costs five bucks. I'm about due for a number change anyway.

Don't worry about the first few sections. I'm actually fairly compassionate towards people who have it worse than I do, as you clearly do, in probably every possible way other than maybe financial. I'm mainly just a dark and sardonic prick in some of my posts because it's hilarious.

[blackhole]

Yet another example of Blackhole just not having a clue. Of the long article he posted, the important issue is boiled down to this line. "Floor recognized a particularly good run of luck" In the example given in the article which took place at Foxwoods, that recognision involved a player winning 100k that first day. That is an amount that draws attention. An amount that someone has to answer for. That requires an investigation and evaluation.

Here is a perfect case of Kewlj trying to spin what was said in that article about card counters or anyone in general and twisting the comment into winning 100K was the reason the software gets triggered.

When the article said Quote: “On the gaming floor when one of these players is recognized as having a "particularly good run of luck" they are flagged for surveillance to record, archive and have their trusty "dog" review the play.” That comment was directed at anyone who appears to be lucky. It had nothing to do with the player who won 100K in one day. Buying in for 15K and winning 100K in one day would raise a red flag anywhere in any casino in the world. What that software actually told them about the player winning 100k that day and over time winning over 2 million was that he wasn’t a card counter and helped convince the casino to keep hosting him to get their money back which they eventually did knowing for fact he wasn’t a card counter. If after his first day of winning 100k the software confirmed he was a card counter that guy may have been found dead in the woods with a tomahawk in his skull.

Wow Kewlj you’ll try anything. Thanks Kewlj, keep going.

[blackhole]

Mission's last post above is all he has left. I'm certain most all readers realize this. For the record your detours hit a dead-end.

[Mission146]

Mission's last post above is all he has left. I'm certain most all readers realize this. For the record your detours hit a dead-end.

That is all I have left. But, unlike you, I'll go out laughing about it.

[Mission146]

I really do enjoy 500 Rummy, though. It's my favorite card game. Getting a good 500 Rummy game might even be +EV against the fact that you would be my company. No money involved, it can be a friendly match.

If you're in the mood for a marathon, we could make it 10,000 Rummy. I'll totally do it. Option for either player to resign and start a new game for every 1,000 threshold crossed is the only stipulation.

[Mission146]

Oh, seven cards each. I don't play 13.

[blackhole]

I don't give a fuck about KewlJ's claims because nothing about KewlJ's entire existence makes one speck of difference to me as it seems to with you.

This coming from a person who already made 28 posts / support / detours just in this thread about Kewlj.

Everyone reading really understand what is going on here. Trust me.

[Mission146]

This coming from a person who already made 28 posts / support / detours just in this thread about Kewlj.

Everyone reading really understand what is going on here. Trust me.

Okay, you win.

I don't care about the underlying subject matter (KewlJ's claims) at all, so I'll bow out of this thread. I was just trying to help him not waste his time responding to you, not to defend any of his claims as that's not my place, but it should have been clear to me that effort was going to fail.

[MaxPen]

Everyone reading really understand what is going on here. Trust me.

Yes,,,,, that you are a retard. Congrats on removing any doubt that may have been lingering for some.

[kewlJ]

So according to Kewlj he counts cards on average for 35 weeks a year. (250 days) The profits during this time with sometimes big wins / big losses, eventually average out to a net profit of $2,500.00 dollars each working week. He said he had a few 100K years which would average to about 3K profit per week.

I guess we’re to believe that while you play BJ and combined with your Houdini escape techniques, you winning 80K to 100K profit a year playing blackjack is going un-noticed by casino pits and surveillance for 11 years in Vegas, because those are tolerable casino amounts to lose to card counters? How many gifted card counters like you do you think exist in Vegas? God knows how many you taught and helped which you claim was your main reason for becoming a member of gambling forums in the first place.

Hang in there Kewlj, some good shit is coming up.

Mission, shouldn’t you be concentrating on writing some new gambling articles with hopes of luring immature gamblers to off-shore on-line casinos for the Serbian Mafia? Why you wasting so much time here on nonsense and deflections for Kewlj? I guess if you back-up Kewlj, some newbie gambling fools might think if he could pull this off in Vegas, imagine what they could do on-line. It’s obvious part of your job for your employer is to scan forums and promote the hope of beating casinos, and defend the self-proclaimed AP's who get challenged. You certainly do enough of that at the WOV. You’re the type of employee I always tried to find. Dedication was hard to come by.

What an absolute moron! Seriously with each and every passing post, you prove you know nothing about advantage play. I don't even know how that can be since you have been on these forums for years. You would have thought something would have stuck.

So I say, I play 250 days a year and you conclude that is 35 weeks. People that work so called traditional job, work 5 days a week for 50 weeks...the same 250 days a year. Do you conclude they work 35 weeks? Idiot! I generally play 5 days a week, sometimes 6, not counting the last covid year, and I take a week off between Chrismas and New Years because Vegas gets too crowded and crazy that week, and on normal years I usually take a week off to just get away. 35 weeks....you total nut job!

So if you didn't understand how THAT works, no surprise you don't understand how the rest of it goes. You guys, (meaning you and the guys at WoV discussing me) all continue to say 100k a year. I average 80k a year from blackjack during my time in Vegas. If you want to be specific it is 79 something after last year. So 80k divided by 50 is $1600 average a week, not $2500-$3000 that you just made up.

BUT more importantly, you seem to have no understanding of the word average. Of course I don't make $1600 every week. Some weeks I make 4, 5, 6 k, some weeks I make a few hundred. Some weeks I lose money. AVERAGE...AVERAGE...AVERAGE!

But lets just say it did work like you fantasize and I made $1600 every week, like clock work. Do you realize I play 5-7 session a day at 3-5 casinos a day?

So that is 25 sessions a week minimal. I hate to go back to this word "average" that you have so thoroughly just proven you don't understand, but that is an AVERAGE of $64 won per session. Now again, it doesn't work like that. Most sessions are wins or losses of hundreds of dollars, some wins and losses of thousands of dollars. But $64 dollars average. AND THAT is what playing short sessions and mid level betting limits that are well tolerated is all about! It is exactly why I developed this game plan specifically for this location.

And I am going to have to address Moses (who is talking about me where I can't respond, which I don't appreciate) at some point. Moses is talking about coming to Las Vegas, doing what I do and just doubling the stakes and he will make twice as much. Doubling the stakes changes everything! Moses, why do you think I don't play double the stakes? I have the bankroll to do so. Double the stakes takes in out of that range that is well tolerated. You have completely changed the dynamics. Maybe you (Moses) can pull it off, I don't know. There are players that play higher stakes and seem to pull it off. I know I couldn't and it isn't my plan that was carefully planned around tolerance levels and what I perceive draws attention.

[kewlJ]

Everyone reading really understand what is going on here. Trust me.

Yes,,,,, that you are a retard. Congrats on removing any doubt that may have been lingering for some.

I haven't seen this level of complete not understanding anything since Alan. Singer displayed some of it, but with Singer you could never really tell just what he beleived and what he was pulling your leg about. This guy, blackhole really takes stupidity to a new level.

[unJon]

Oh, seven cards each. I don't play 13.

7 cards isn’t Rummy. It’s an abomination. You at least play 10 cards for gin?

[blackhole]

Here are a bunch of quotes from a person I think works at a casino from WOV.

Quotes:

Between multiple decks, unfavorable rules, long cuts, betting spreads and unfavorable odds, they can now also spot a card counter like a cheap hooker…not to mention facial recognition technology and databases to identify APs.

Plant yourself at $50 or $100 table and count cards. It took them a few days to tell Dana White and Ben Affleck to pound salt and it wasn’t their faces that did it. Their “method of “play” gets spotted in minutes.

I would assume once one single casino has ID’d you….they all get your picture.

What then?

The problem is once ONE casino figures it out…they all have.

I’m also of the mindset that any attempt at structuring, not winning too much, trying to stay under the radar, etc….the casinos have seen every and any tactic. The cat always catches the mouse…eventually.

LOL…While there may be some “forum millionaires” playing blackjack and are serious about their play…I’ll wager money, if they have “millions”, that their millions were not accumulated off Vegas black jack tables.

Me thinks someone has gotten your ear and talked a good game. The AP players out here that are more than willing to tell me they are AP’s without actually knowing I may be tied to a casino…usually drive Lyft or some other type of job. I’ve yet to see one living the high life of millions.

I think you are being lied to and or mislead by these “rich forum members” who claim “bountiful riches” off the blackjack table if you merely apply yourself.

[MaxPen]

Here are a bunch of quotes from a person I think works at a casino from WOV.

Quotes:

Between multiple decks, unfavorable rules, long cuts, betting spreads and unfavorable odds, they can now also spot a card counter like a cheap hooker…not to mention facial recognition technology and databases to identify APs.

Plant yourself at $50 or $100 table and count cards. It took them a few days to tell Dana White and Ben Affleck to pound salt and it wasn’t their faces that did it. Their “method of “play” gets spotted in minutes.

I would assume once one single casino has ID’d you….they all get your picture.

What then?

The problem is once ONE casino figures it out…they all have.

I’m also of the mindset that any attempt at structuring, not winning too much, trying to stay under the radar, etc….the casinos have seen every and any tactic. The cat always catches the mouse…eventually.

LOL…While there may be some “forum millionaires” playing blackjack and are serious about their play…I’ll wager money, if they have “millions”, that their millions were not accumulated off Vegas black jack tables.

Me thinks someone has gotten your ear and talked a good game. The AP players out here that are more than willing to tell me they are AP’s without actually knowing I may be tied to a casino…usually drive Lyft or some other type of job. I’ve yet to see one living the high life of millions.

I think you are being lied to and or mislead by these “rich forum members” who claim “bountiful riches” off the blackjack table if you merely apply yourself.

You must be a retired fry cook.....RIP

You are gonna give yourself a stroke worrying about some 80k a year card counter that is multiple times more successful than you. Let it go and go for a walk.

[kewlJ]

Ok, I think we have come full circle here. Blackhole announced a thread where he was going to post inconsistancies that I have made over the year and numbers and things I have said that don't add up.

There have been no inconsistancies because as others have said, everything I have said have been remarkably consistant....boringly constant! And things don't add up to only blackhole, who 1) has no clue about advantage play of any kind and what advantage players do to ply their trade and 2) doesn't want things to add up, so in his mind they don't. I have been able to further explain everything he thinks doesn't add up, but of course he will not accept that.

So unable to find any inconsistancies, and unable to find anything that doesn't add up to anyone with half a brain, blackhole has now resorted to quotes and an opinion from an unnamed source, that may or may not be a casino employee.

This did provide a chance for some rare blackjack talk and me to share some of what I do, that others may benefit from. But enough is enough. I see no more sense in wasting any more time on this.

[blackhole]

Ok, I think we have come full circle here. Blackhole announced a thread where he was going to post inconsistancies that I have made over the year and numbers and things I have said that don't add up.

There have been no inconsistancies because as others have said, everything I have said have been remarkably consistant....boringly constant! And things don't add up to only blackhole, who 1) has no clue about advantage play of any kind and what advantage players do to ply their trade and 2) doesn't want things to add up, so in his mind they don't. I have been able to further explain everything he thinks doesn't add up, but of course he will not accept that.

So unable to find any inconsistancies, and unable to find anything that doesn't add up to anyone with half a brain, blackhole has now resorted to quotes and an opinion from an unnamed source, that may or may not be a casino employee.

This did provide a chance for some rare blackjack talk and me to share some of what I do, that others may benefit from. But enough is enough. I see no more sense in wasting any more time on this.

Take notice that the “others” you note that have said your fantasies were consistent are the same 4 backers you have from the click making this thread already 9 pages long. I say only 4 because I consider jdaewoo and MaxPad one in the same. Redietz made 22 and Mission made 28 posts, a total of 50 just between the both of them so far.

Being a consistent liar doesn’t make what your claiming true. Their support is not based on one confirmed fact. None of them even know who you are. Just because your fantasy sounds good to a couple of people who also make nothing but un-confirmed anonymous gambling claims on forums doesn’t change a thing.

You never provided all the actual different math formulas and different tolerable spreads you would need for all the different places you play at confirming how you could pull this off for 11 years netting between 80K and 100K. Your consistent bullshit doesn’t explain how you’re pulling this off getting by everything put in place from decades of casino operation experience, including 21st century technology designed to expose just what you claim to overcome.

Me quoting anonymous alleged professionals that punch holes all over your fantasies doesn’t make your anonymous fantasies true.

Please don’t quit on us now. I didn’t get out of the second month of research yet. I have almost 4 more years to go.

Am I going on ignore?