Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
Was in Vegas from Thursday-Saturday.

Mask mandate began 12:01am Friday.

Casinos seemed to be more concerned about people coming in maskless than wearing a mask once they were already in. I'd say about 70% of people were walking around masked.

Anyway, the mask crap is performative nonsense. We have no real data that cloth masks do very much to prevent COVID spread, especially since the realization that most of the spread is via aerosol, not droplets. It's like saying that wearing pants will prevent people from smelling your farts.

Anyway, the Delta variant DOES seem to be breaking through to vaccinated people, which is unnerving. However, it seems the seriousness of the illness is reduced, though I personally know some people with the usual moderate-level symptoms such as extreme fatigue, loss of smell/taste, and fever. I know other breakthrough case people who just have very mild symptoms.

I think the government is downplaying Delta's effect on vaccinated people because they are afraid it will justify people not vaccinating. I wish they'd stop bullshitting us, and just give us the straight info.
The only difference between the vaxxed and the unvaxxed is the unvaxxed can't die from the vax. The vax doesn't work because it is not a vaccine. It is really that simple.
Ok I'll bite and it is not a vaccine because why?

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money there isn't one vaccine that prevents people from testing positive for whatever virus they were vaccinated against. It may be that we never really thought about how vaccinations work prior to this. Infections are relative. You can be infected with many things and not have any symptoms. It is a battle of your body versus a replicating organism. If this vaccine isn't real then no other vaccines are likely real either.

For every virus you have to be infected before a vaccination does anything. Therefore since you are infected - it isn't a vaccine.

Is that the point you're making or is it more nuanced ?