Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
Im not in fantasy land, Arc. I will believe in dice control when a shooter can tell me ahead of time what combination they will throw next.

And we agree-- without perfect and complete control there is something left to chance... in fact it is all left to chance.

The difference between craps and VP is that someday someone might show up who really can control the dice, but no VP player will legally be able to control an RNG.
Alan, unless they can control ALL aspects of the game then randomness is still present. Once you have randomness you have exactly the same situation. Why do you persist in this inane silliness?