Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Are you challenging my veracity, coach? LOL. If you send Dan $10, I'll post one of the Cincy tickets. I'll make you a deal. You send Dan $10, and I'll send Dan $500. If I don't produce at least one screenshot of a ticket worth a minimum of 50K in winnings, you keep the $500. If I do, I keep your $10. Make sure you sign the ten dollar bill, so I can frame it.

No, I wouldn't post the info, because I didn't do the research. Not my research to post.

And what are you blabbing about regarding "Tipsters or Gypsters?" Some of the standings were posted in the old Retro Road Trip thread. They are screen shots from some of the annual reports. Check with mickey. He rotated them properly after I failed to do so.


P.S. to forum devotees: I'm hoping coach isn't too broke to send Dan a sawbuck. I know it's a helluva commitment, but it's worth it to prove that I'm lying.
Just curious, how much of that is profit, and is that profit/risk all yours or part of a group/team thing? One can have huge winning tickets however there's oftentimes many losing wagering going on in the meantime.

I can show tons of profits via online sports accounts as well, and I don't claim to be a pro sports bettor.

Obviously. Axelwolf is obviously right.

Using a select few of many long shot sports futures tickets, and posting just the ones that show a profit is a standard (maybe THE standard) scam trickeration. In fact, it's how some scamdicappers managed to get enormous publicity a few years back, highlighting their Royals to win World Series tickets. Got USA Today coverage, as I recall, and other major media exposures.

I don't do that. I have run an outfit called Integrity Sports for 40 years. As far as the Cincy tickets, they are no big deal, as they will generate a minimal profit compared to other futures I've had in the past. The moneyline hedging (Bearcats will not beat Alabama) will double or triple my money -- that's about it. So it's a nice profit, as I said, but it's nothing remarkable. Alabama beating Georgia set up a worst case scenario for me in terms of hedging. Had Auburn or Georgia beaten Alabama, the moneyline situation would be completely different.

As I mentioned, this scenario reminds me of roughly 25 years ago when I took San Diego early in the season at 100-1 to win the SB. They wound up playing San Fran as 17-point underdogs, and I had to lay -1100 to make money. Ugly. Fortunately, I knew an illegal bookmaker, Mike Stockunas (who is semi-famous) and he was kind enough to allow me to make my hedge wagers without fronting any cash, which saved me a trip to Las Vegas and lot of inconvenience.

Besides, I mentioned taking Cincy a long time ago and said they had about as much chance as my "stepping out with Elizabeth Hurley on Saturday night." I also mentioned that I blew money on Arizona State at 150-1 to win the whole shebang. So it's not like I'm touting some big accomplishment.

For big accomplishments along this vein, I suggest the Retro Road Trip thread, where my late cousin, E.R. Dietz, had a fantastic SB futures story. Some of those tickets are posted there in that thread.

More later. Axel, check out the Retro Road Trip posts with those futures tickets.