Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by Texasreb View Post
Originally Posted by jpfromla View Post

My wife and I have been Diamond for ten plus years. Two years ago, I could visit the Laurel Lounge (not everbody's favorite, but I could lay low, have some drinks, watch the game, have a bite), see a monthly show and go to the spa daily. Today, all gone. Tom Reeg, CEO of Eldiablo ad the Carano Family Circus have eliminated the Total Rewards player for ???
Mind you that TR was a massive extensive data driven program. Reeg has pissed that away.

And the Convention Crowd, Reeg really thinks the they would rather stay at Harrahs, than Wynn, V/P, or Resorts when the company credit card is paying for it. Totally clueless. Caesars properties are third tier properties (including Caesars). And I've stayed at Caesars, V/P and Wynn this year.

Bottom line is Eldiablo has been able to treat it's players like shit, because, before the merger, their clientele was one casino town degenerate gamblers. Now they brought this mindset to Vegas.

I've moved....
This is what many of us liked to do. Have a drink, a bite of food, and visit with old friends (players). Now that is gone.

Speaking of Eldiablo. Back when it was just Carano family. It was not too bad. I had a top card for a few years.
I wonder how the hell slot machine players (not video poker) could take the beatings at CZR properties. Their machines are all 85%. You run a 50K wager, that's a 7.5K average loss. What kind of comp will a 50K wager get you?
Not much. I learned about their 85% payback the hard way when i first started playing. Went to their properties and tried to take bigger plays at numbers that I was doing great on at other places and got torn a new one a couple of times before I learned.

Now I see a lot of others doing the same thing, they will go to CZR properties and play the exact same numbers they play everywhere else only to earn a one way ticket to Ruintanusvillle. .

So not only do you have to deal with the horrible payback, but its much harder to find playable numbers because most people are playing numbers that only work for higher payback shops and stuff rarely gets to a number that would be profitable at 85%.