My apologies to Rob Singer

[Mission146]

It's cultural anthropology 101. I'm actually serious. This is something you learn in cultural anthropology 101.

In many cultures, scamming non-materially would be considered more egregious than scamming materially. In Star Trek terms, Americans are Ferengi. Many other cultures have been more Klingon. What's worth more -- your word or your bank account?

Will discuss sometime. Hopefully, by the end of 2022, this pandemic is all cleared up, and I can pack up the van and move to LV (cement ponds, movie stars).

I mean, we're a capitalistic culture, are we not? I think it's fair to suggest that monetary value is at least more directly quantifiable and, in the American culture, one would have to have an eye towards eventually monetizing something for it to constitute a scam.

Again, I can't walk into my local coffee shop and get an espresso on my word. "Hey, I'm a relatively unknown gambling writer who most consider a generally nice guy as long as we keep the subject off of religion. How about an espresso, please?"

Beyond that, maybe it just has something to do with the fact that I don't place a ton of value on these non-material things that you suggest people scam for. I don't place a lot of value on money, either, but unlike the non-material things, I do need more than zero money to buy other material things (such as food) that I do need, as well as what few things there are that I actually merely want.

[Mission146]

I just want to insert a little Confederate black humor here. I live at:

1412 Forrest Dale Lane

The street is named, as mickey helped me figure out, for a Civil War Confederate general, whose statue and bust were just yanked out of state buildings this past year. You see, General Forrest was known for two things. One was being the first Grand Dragon of the Klan, and Tennessee-born at that. The other is much worse, so look it up.

The slaughter? Much like Sherman, he was probably just doing what he felt gave them the best chance to win. Prisoners eat food; dead men don't.

Beyond that, maybe he felt that it would be demoralizing rather than strengthening the opponent's resolve.

[redietz]

It's cultural anthropology 101. I'm actually serious. This is something you learn in cultural anthropology 101.

In many cultures, scamming non-materially would be considered more egregious than scamming materially. In Star Trek terms, Americans are Ferengi. Many other cultures have been more Klingon. What's worth more -- your word or your bank account?

Will discuss sometime. Hopefully, by the end of 2022, this pandemic is all cleared up, and I can pack up the van and move to LV (cement ponds, movie stars).

I mean, we're a capitalistic culture, are we not? I think it's fair to suggest that monetary value is at least more directly quantifiable and, in the American culture, one would have to have an eye towards eventually monetizing something for it to constitute a scam.

Again, I can't walk into my local coffee shop and get an espresso on my word. "Hey, I'm a relatively unknown gambling writer who most consider a generally nice guy as long as we keep the subject off of religion. How about an espresso, please?"

Beyond that, maybe it just has something to do with the fact that I don't place a ton of value on these non-material things that you suggest people scam for. I don't place a lot of value on money, either, but unlike the non-material things, I do need more than zero money to buy other material things (such as food) that I do need, as well as what few things there are that I actually merely want.

You're very America-centric. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Now if you walked the streets of the small town where I grew up, and knocked on doors and said, "Hey, I'm a relatively unknown gambling writer who most consider a generally nice guy as long as we keep the subject off religion. How about a coffee, please?" then you would have a belly full of coffee and various pies and a few good stories about the damned Catholics and the damned Protestants.

[Mission146]

It's cultural anthropology 101. I'm actually serious. This is something you learn in cultural anthropology 101.

In many cultures, scamming non-materially would be considered more egregious than scamming materially. In Star Trek terms, Americans are Ferengi. Many other cultures have been more Klingon. What's worth more -- your word or your bank account?

Will discuss sometime. Hopefully, by the end of 2022, this pandemic is all cleared up, and I can pack up the van and move to LV (cement ponds, movie stars).

I mean, we're a capitalistic culture, are we not? I think it's fair to suggest that monetary value is at least more directly quantifiable and, in the American culture, one would have to have an eye towards eventually monetizing something for it to constitute a scam.

Again, I can't walk into my local coffee shop and get an espresso on my word. "Hey, I'm a relatively unknown gambling writer who most consider a generally nice guy as long as we keep the subject off of religion. How about an espresso, please?"

Beyond that, maybe it just has something to do with the fact that I don't place a ton of value on these non-material things that you suggest people scam for. I don't place a lot of value on money, either, but unlike the non-material things, I do need more than zero money to buy other material things (such as food) that I do need, as well as what few things there are that I actually merely want.

You're very America-centric. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Now if you walked the streets of the small town where I grew up, and knocked on doors and said, "Hey, I'm a relatively unknown gambling writer who most consider a generally nice guy as long as we keep the subject off religion. How about a coffee, please?" then you would have a belly full of coffee and various pies and a few good stories about the damned Catholics and the damned Protestants.

I will treat them as I would treat anyone else, but I would never knowingly accept a favor from them.

Anything that they give me will be returned, with interest.

[redietz]

I just want to insert a little Confederate black humor here. I live at:

1412 Forrest Dale Lane

The street is named, as mickey helped me figure out, for a Civil War Confederate general, whose statue and bust were just yanked out of state buildings this past year. You see, General Forrest was known for two things. One was being the first Grand Dragon of the Klan, and Tennessee-born at that. The other is much worse, so look it up.

The slaughter? Much like Sherman, he was probably just doing what he felt gave them the best chance to win. Prisoners eat food; dead men don't.

Beyond that, maybe he felt that it would be demoralizing rather than strengthening the opponent's resolve.

From what I understand, he killed two-thirds of the black prisoners and less than a third of the white.

I'm sure there's an affirmative action joke in there some place, but it will take a steadier mind than mine to come up with it.

[Mission146]

Maybe he figured that the black soldiers were naturally faster and more athletic, therefore, constituted a greater threat than the flat-footed crackers.

[Mission146]

Also, did you not grow up in Tennessee? I do not set foot in states with Rebel sympathies, so barring an emergency plane landing, I will never be there.

I was in Florida, but that was to make money and I didn't spend any money there other than what was necessary.

[monet]

Also, did you not grow up in Tennessee? I do not set foot in states with Rebel sympathies, so barring an emergency plane landing, I will never be there.

I was in Florida, but that was to make money and I didn't spend any money there other than what was necessary.

United States Of America... United.

[Mission146]

Yeah, we're all United. It doesn't mean I have to engage in commerce with states that I don't like if I have other alternatives.

Besides, they betrayed the entire country and still cling to their heritage, a heritage consisting entirely of racism and losing, that they are somehow still proud of. Not interested. I'm just one guy who will make my purchasing decisions with other states.

If it helps, I will not do business with California, Washington, New York or Oregon if it can be avoided, either.

[mickeycrimm]

Wrong again, long winded one! Perhaps you haven't heard but the internet has made amateur genealogists out of millions of Americans. We are all trading information as we speak. Ancestry.com revolutionized genealogy when they made billions of records available online. I've traced some of my ancestors back 12 generations. I've met scores of distant cousins online. Some where the common ancestor between us might be a 4X or 5X great-grandparent. I write biographical sketches of my ancestors and leave them online for posterity.

I have a huge collection of records. Here's an example. One of my 6X great-grandfathers, Laurence Corley. The house he lived in is preserved in Lexington, South Carolina:

Who gives a shit? Do you think that is, "More than a few short generations," in the Universal sense? We haven't even existed long enough to be a Universal rounding error, and probably won't exist long enough to do so. I guess Sherman must have missed that one, oh well, can't get them all I guess....didn't have Google Maps back then.

It’s time for you to fuck off and die

[mickeycrimm]

[QUOTE=Mission146;136138]

Wrong again, long winded one! Perhaps you haven't heard but the internet has made amateur genealogists out of millions of Americans. We are all trading information as we speak. Ancestry.com revolutionized genealogy when they made billions of records available online. I've traced some of my ancestors back 12 generations. I've met scores of distant cousins online. Some where the common ancestor between us might be a 4X or 5X great-grandparent. I write biographical sketches of my ancestors and leave them online for posterity.

I have a huge collection of records. Here's an example. One of my 6X great-grandfathers, Laurence Corley. The house he lived in is preserved in Lexington, South Carolina:

Who gives a shit? Do you think that is, "More than a few short generations," in the Universal sense? We haven't even existed long enough to be a Universal rounding error, and probably won't exist long enough to do so. I guess Sherman must have missed that one, oh well, can't get them all I guess....didn't have Google Maps back then.[/

I’ve tried to be civil in this debate but you just keeping getting more belligerent. Everyone is seeing your true colors. Fuck off and die.

[jbjb]

I dont believe that Christians or any other denomination should be killed off. They need to be locked up in straight jackets and put in looney bins.

[mickeycrimm]

That was good. I need to hijack that (with proper credit given) sometime.

I haven't had cookies and punch in a while. I did attend a Penn and Teller (famous atheists) party once -- it was a "Bacon and Donuts" party. I learned something very deep and almost religious -- Heineken and Krispy Kreme donuts are not a great combination. I feel like I should spread the word about that. I'm not saying that combo should be a sin, but it might be something a snake would talk you into.

Thank you and don't forget to tip your waitress. Does this mean we're friends again? We should really get into the discussion of scamming as relates both material and non-material advantages...I'm legitimately interested in hearing an expansion on your point of view of that.

I’m stiffing the next waitress because of your punk ass.

[mickeycrimm]

So we have learned from Mission that the north had the right to declare and make war and southerners who defended themselves should have been executed. There were about 600,000 surviving confederate soldiers. Mission would have executed all of them. That’s some classic atheist thinking for sure. Joe Stalin and Mao Zedong would be very proud of Mission.

[Ozzy]

Yeah, we're all United. It doesn't mean I have to engage in commerce with states that I don't like if I have other alternatives.

Besides, they betrayed the entire country and still cling to their heritage, a heritage consisting entirely of racism and losing, that they are somehow still proud of. Not interested. I'm just one guy who will make my purchasing decisions with other states.

If it helps, I will not do business with California, Washington, New York or Oregon if it can be avoided, either.

PA and Ohio all the way !!

[Ozzy]

Wrong again, long winded one! Perhaps you haven't heard but the internet has made amateur genealogists out of millions of Americans. We are all trading information as we speak. Ancestry.com revolutionized genealogy when they made billions of records available online. I've traced some of my ancestors back 12 generations. I've met scores of distant cousins online. Some where the common ancestor between us might be a 4X or 5X great-grandparent. I write biographical sketches of my ancestors and leave them online for posterity.

I have a huge collection of records. Here's an example. One of my 6X great-grandfathers, Laurence Corley. The house he lived in is preserved in Lexington, South Carolina:

Who gives a shit? Do you think that is, "More than a few short generations," in the Universal sense? We haven't even existed long enough to be a Universal rounding error, and probably won't exist long enough to do so. I guess Sherman must have missed that one, oh well, can't get them all I guess....didn't have Google Maps back then.

It’s time for you to fuck off and die

It's now official, Mickey is challenging the Marathon Man to a heavyweight bout. Two soldiers north of 2 hundy.

[Mission146]

Wrong again, long winded one! Perhaps you haven't heard but the internet has made amateur genealogists out of millions of Americans. We are all trading information as we speak. Ancestry.com revolutionized genealogy when they made billions of records available online. I've traced some of my ancestors back 12 generations. I've met scores of distant cousins online. Some where the common ancestor between us might be a 4X or 5X great-grandparent. I write biographical sketches of my ancestors and leave them online for posterity.

I have a huge collection of records. Here's an example. One of my 6X great-grandfathers, Laurence Corley. The house he lived in is preserved in Lexington, South Carolina:

Who gives a shit? Do you think that is, "More than a few short generations," in the Universal sense? We haven't even existed long enough to be a Universal rounding error, and probably won't exist long enough to do so. I guess Sherman must have missed that one, oh well, can't get them all I guess....didn't have Google Maps back then.

It’s time for you to fuck off and die

Don’t be a snowflake.

[Mission146]

That was good. I need to hijack that (with proper credit given) sometime.

I haven't had cookies and punch in a while. I did attend a Penn and Teller (famous atheists) party once -- it was a "Bacon and Donuts" party. I learned something very deep and almost religious -- Heineken and Krispy Kreme donuts are not a great combination. I feel like I should spread the word about that. I'm not saying that combo should be a sin, but it might be something a snake would talk you into.

Thank you and don't forget to tip your waitress. Does this mean we're friends again? We should really get into the discussion of scamming as relates both material and non-material advantages...I'm legitimately interested in hearing an expansion on your point of view of that.

I’m stiffing the next waitress because of your punk ass.

Very Christian of you.

[Mission146]

[QUOTE=mickeycrimm;136169]

Wrong again, long winded one! Perhaps you haven't heard but the internet has made amateur genealogists out of millions of Americans. We are all trading information as we speak. Ancestry.com revolutionized genealogy when they made billions of records available online. I've traced some of my ancestors back 12 generations. I've met scores of distant cousins online. Some where the common ancestor between us might be a 4X or 5X great-grandparent. I write biographical sketches of my ancestors and leave them online for posterity.

I have a huge collection of records. Here's an example. One of my 6X great-grandfathers, Laurence Corley. The house he lived in is preserved in Lexington, South Carolina:

Who gives a shit? Do you think that is, "More than a few short generations," in the Universal sense? We haven't even existed long enough to be a Universal rounding error, and probably won't exist long enough to do so. I guess Sherman must have missed that one, oh well, can't get them all I guess....didn't have Google Maps back then.[/

I’ve tried to be civil in this debate but you just keeping getting more belligerent. Everyone is seeing your true colors. Fuck off and die.

They’re red, white and blue. My true shapes are horizontal stripes and a box with stars in it.

[jbjb]

[QUOTE=Mission146;136177]

Who gives a shit? Do you think that is, "More than a few short generations," in the Universal sense? We haven't even existed long enough to be a Universal rounding error, and probably won't exist long enough to do so. I guess Sherman must have missed that one, oh well, can't get them all I guess....didn't have Google Maps back then.[/

I’ve tried to be civil in this debate but you just keeping getting more belligerent. Everyone is seeing your true colors. Fuck off and die.

They’re red, white and blue. My true shapes are horizontal stripes and a box with stars in it.

I hate labels based on location of birth.