Laughlin Trip Report

[mickeycrimm]

Hi Mickey,

I know this is an old thread, but I had a few questions and I think some folks may like a 2022 update in Laughlin.

I had a big loss at the riverside and they are sending me $160/month free play plus other offers. I think Riverside may base offers off of actual loss if you ran 30k in action and got $20 FP. They think I lost $1400. Cardpulling before bonus rounds works there. I actually lost around $800, most of it was 600 loss on a machine where I didn't read the small fine print and 400 at craps in 15 mins where I didn't win one bet. I made some back in the very few good games they have. Very few vulturables though, hence the craps.

Edgewater sends me $120/month + $30 in food. I found a good camp play among others and ran 13k inaction over a few days, according to the win loss statement. Card pulling works here too, because I actually made over 1k between aquarius and edgewater, but they had me down for a $70 win. Just pull your card before every bonus round or when a big payout is coming.

There are quite a bit more vulture machines than your account, but that probably runs true for all jurisdictions these days. You do however need a car and have to sweep through every casino.

A couple questions-

1. Do you think Riverside maybe had you a bad offer list from your long history there? $20 in freeplay with 30k in action over a couple days? What a slap in the face.

2. How important are local IDs/addresses to offers here and other jurisdictions, in your experience?

3. Was what you had written the extent of the offers you ended up receiving? Did they increase when you ignored them or get worse?

4. How is vulturing now compared to the piggy bankin days? Is the lack of good VP offset by the games out these days?

Definitely true, there is nothing for good VP in Laughlin. The $1 NSUD is literally the best game in town, and it's a losing play. I will have to check for that progressive bank at the Pioneer when I am there next month. That sounds like it could be a play.

As an aside, what is up with this Rob Singer guy? I've never heard him say anything that sounded reasonable or logical about gambling and he seems to be very disrespectful. Plus, regarding the $2 FPDW game, doesn't he play some crazy strategy where he breaks a ton of paying hands to chase the royal/dueces? Sounds like he would negate any edge he could have on the game with his approach to VP. So on THIS game he would play a computer based strategy? Just an observation.

I had completely forgotten about this thread. I've continued to get occasional freeplay/room offers from Laughlin, Edgewater, Aquarius, Tropicana. Not planning to go back so threw them away.

I don't think I was on a no mail list from Riverside.

20 years ago I had out of state ID but local address in Laughlin. The Riverside has a post office. Every place but Edgewater, Belle, Harrah's sent me good mail offers.
When I moved my address to Reno the Edgewater/Belle started sending me mail. But that old information.

In 2018 Laughlin was not a good spot for slot AP compared to other places in the country.

Thank you for the reply. I've been averaging a pretty good hourly with my trips to Laughlin, but it is a lot of walking in and out of all the casinos to find enough plays, which kind of sucks. According to your 2018 report, I would say there are a lot more vulture games there at present.

I also think I just like looking at the river too haha. I really like it there.

Btw, back in the day, did you ever use your comp points to rent jet skis? That's a good time.

I was curious as to how things are in general around the country these days in terms of vultures vs the piggy bankin/cherry pie days? Sounds like there was a Lull between 2007 and 2018 and now it's back full force. Is that what you have seen?

One thing I have noticed is that I think the days of getting on the top tier of a slot club and staying there for a year no matter the future play are over, from what I have seen. Seems slot clubs are a lot more reactionary these days and scale back offers quick if you don't play to their desired level. Have you noticed this?

Never did the jet ski thing. The slot AP actually started coming back in 2015. It's better today than it ever was.

I don't go out of my way to work slot clubs. I don't want the scrutiny. If they make it easy I'll take it. If they complicate it fuck 'em. I don't waste time on thin edge to get comp. The money is in the big edge plays where you have to watch the information you give the casino with the slot card. Theres stuff I won't stick my card in.