Objective proof?

[MaxPen]

Gambling is your only income. That's sad.

Why "sad?"

It's sad that he cant take off. He can't let an employer pay for his retirement. He cant have an employer pay for his health insurance. He doesn't get sick pay.

And he's DEPENDENT on a stop loss strategy. He knows that he cant blow thru his bankroll because his bankroll is his job. He must conserve wins and he must limit losses.

Unlike someone with a job he cant replenish his gambling bankroll with his next paycheck.

Frankly he's the poster child for why a stop loss program is essential. If he loses too much he loses his chance to work and his chance to win.

This has to be the dumbest shit I have read in awhile. Do you not realize that you are being raked by your employer for everything you get? That's how employers make money. You as an employee have to give more than you get.

[redietz]

It's sad that he cant take off. He can't let an employer pay for his retirement. He cant have an employer pay for his health insurance. He doesn't get sick pay.

And he's DEPENDENT on a stop loss strategy. He knows that he cant blow thru his bankroll because his bankroll is his job. He must conserve wins and he must limit losses.

Unlike someone with a job he cant replenish his gambling bankroll with his next paycheck.

Frankly he's the poster child for why a stop loss program is essential. If he loses too much he loses his chance to work and his chance to win.

I don't get this post at all.

KewlJ can take off any time he wants. He doesn't get paid, but theoretically he's saved up the same as if he had unemployment insurance. Saving like that takes discipline.

For most of these APs, the APing IS their job. They just cut out the middle man and handle their insurance and unemployment themselves.

APing can dry up any time. True dat, but so can any business. And it's rare for someone to "age out" of APing, although I can see that happening in poker.

As far as a "stop loss program," that's gobbledygook. If you play properly bankrolled and adjust play to the status of the bankroll, it'll take a minor miracle to bankrupt you. I don't know to what extent people consider me an AP, but I work on percent of profit. I have losing years. That's as in I make no money in total for 365 days. Zero. I have to be able to handle that. If someone playing blackjack is playing properly for the size of their bankroll, and they are in danger of bankruptcy, it's a minor miracle or the rules have changed or they've joined ZK on tribal land or they are blowing money on other forms of gambling. It isn't going to happen.

What Alan said can be applied to private investigators and independent realtors and football coaches.

Redietz all you did here was talk about money management and quitting when ahead is part of good money management.

Or... are you going to say it's better to lose?

I can't believe people are fighting over "quitting when ahead."

What you describe isn't "quitting." It's "pausing." People can pause while ahead all they want. If you are playing a negative game, it saves you money, If you are playing a positive game, it costs you money unless the pausing is helpful in terms of rest and recharging.

[coach belly]

What you describe isn't "quitting." It's "pausing."

This is semantic bullshit, propagated by the forum's biggest bullshitter.

[coach belly]

Do you not realize that you are being raked by your employer for everything you get? That's how employers make money. You as an employee have to give more than you get.

This is complete nonsense, propagated by a miserable skell.

[kewlJ]

What you describe isn't "quitting." It's "pausing."

This is semantic bullshit, propagated by the forum's biggest bullshitter.

Wrong! Redietz is exactly correct. It is only "quitting while ahead" if that player never plays again.

Otherwise it is exactly that...a pause. If the player is going to play again, it makes zero difference if that next round is next week or in 2 minutes.

[coach belly]

I am not stopping because I don't have the funds to continue, I am stopping because it is a convenient place to stop for the day rather than run around wherever I have to replenish.

Convenience is a good reason?...LOL, OK.

For whatever convenient reason, are you stopping, quitting or pausing?

Which one is it?

[MaxPen]

I'm lucky. I don't have a 401k. I have a pension funded by employers that started in 1972. And after I die my beneficiary will inherit 50% of my pension.

You APs have your own retirement plans? Well the reality is they're second rate and chances are you may outlive the money... if you really put money into them.

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019...r-savings.aspx

Why does an AP have to retire?

You're a retired dude velcroed to a craps table for the first week or two of each month when your pension check comes in. If you were an AP you could be in your favorite place everyday and pocket your pension check to leave to your dumbass kid....RIP

[coach belly]

It is only "quitting while ahead" if that player never plays again.

Does leaving work at quitting time mean you'll never go back to work?

[coach belly]

Why does an AP have to retire?

Why does an AP ever leave the casino, if his his place of employment is his favorite place?

[monet]

I don't get this post at all.

KewlJ can take off any time he wants. He doesn't get paid, but theoretically he's saved up the same as if he had unemployment insurance. Saving like that takes discipline.

For most of these APs, the APing IS their job. They just cut out the middle man and handle their insurance and unemployment themselves.

APing can dry up any time. True dat, but so can any business. And it's rare for someone to "age out" of APing, although I can see that happening in poker.

As far as a "stop loss program," that's gobbledygook. If you play properly bankrolled and adjust play to the status of the bankroll, it'll take a minor miracle to bankrupt you. I don't know to what extent people consider me an AP, but I work on percent of profit. I have losing years. That's as in I make no money in total for 365 days. Zero. I have to be able to handle that. If someone playing blackjack is playing properly for the size of their bankroll, and they are in danger of bankruptcy, it's a minor miracle or the rules have changed or they've joined ZK on tribal land or they are blowing money on other forms of gambling. It isn't going to happen.

What Alan said can be applied to private investigators and independent realtors and football coaches.

Look how we got Redietz out of his shell to actually share useful information with us.
As his posts in the recent days have actually had substance.
Yes... our Evil Plan is working.
Soon he will be posting his lock picks for all of us to profit off of.
Muwhahahahahahha!
Let the Force Flow through You!

[accountinquestion]

What you describe isn't "quitting." It's "pausing."

This is semantic bullshit, propagated by the forum's biggest bullshitter.

You're such a retard. Project all you want, but at the end of the night when you fall asleep you are still a retard.

Do yourself a favor and just stop posting.

Seriously.

[Alan Mendelson]

Quitting when ahead or pausing when ahead. It makes no difference.

You take your profits.

Kewlj YOU DO IT everytime the count changes and you leave the table. Don't deny it. You are pausing (quitting) that session when ahead.

[redietz]

What you describe isn't "quitting." It's "pausing."

This is semantic bullshit, propagated by the forum's biggest bullshitter.

The coach speaketh. The Socratic style is a burden when you make declarative statements like that one without providing examples. Socrates would be bummed with you, coach. You've gotta provide examples. I mean, the whole point of Socratic style is to not rely on declarations as evidence of something. So you prod the discourse along with questions, seeking flaws in the answers. "Forum's biggest bullshitter" is a declaration without facts. We need to get into the bullshitting in some detail.

Now don't hold back, coach. I'm sure I've gotten a few things wrong in thousands of posts. Let's have a list, shall we?

And finally, using the coach's Socratic method as he would, let me begin by saying that I am 5'11 3/4". I weigh about 190 pounds (and need to lose 15 pretty quickly). The point is, by height or girth I am likely not the "forum's biggest bullshitter." So gotcha, coach, you're wrong!

Anyway, carry on and list some of my bullshitting so we can all appreciate your expertise. And for the record, let's list my actual name and such, so we have clarity regarding who you are discussing.

Robert Earl Dietz, Jr.

1412 Forrest Dale Lane
Johnson City, TN 37604

Thanks in advance, coach!

[accountinquestion]

It is only "quitting while ahead" if that player never plays again.

Does leaving work at quitting time mean you'll never go back to work?

If someone said you were "quitting work" - what would it suggest without context otherwise?

Pausing work is actually more accurate without context.

Think 'bout it REAL hard for 30 minutes.

LOL

[smurgerburger]

Was Alan always like this?

[soxfan]

I wanna hear more about the claim that cat captured 18 y-0 on the bounce at the dices table. I never hear that tale before so musta been made on the wizard forum before I made the scene there, hey hey.

[coach belly]

Think 'bout it REAL hard for 30 minutes.

Get out of here with that weak shit and get a grip, you weirdo handjob.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quit

Verb

STOP, CEASE, QUIT, DISCONTINUE, DESIST mean to suspend or cause to suspend activity

[MaxPen]

Why does an AP have to retire?

Why does an AP ever leave the casino, if his his place of employment is his favorite place?

I don't know a single AP whose favorite place is a casino. Although I'm sure there are some out there. Some of the traveling hobos actually live in them. So I guess they never leave technically.

[Alan Mendelson]

I just changed my signature.

[coach belly]

You've gotta provide examples.

I don't gotta provide examples, freak, I don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Send a letter to Slattery if you don't like it.

Maybe he'll have time for your nonsense after his all his nonsense lawsuits against the federal government are dismissed.