Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
Once again, I travel to California and get my ass beat hahahha. I'm now down -9810 in 59.5 hours there all time. I know of no counters that have won at Yaamava(San Manuel) or Morongo. I know none that have been backed off at any of these places. NONE of these places sweat the money at all. I split tens like it's going out of style in the hi limit room, no one cares. I backcount all day obvious as hell, no one cares. What's the catch? Who has won here? NO ONE
Btw, Zen, what is it that you exactly think they are doing? Pulling 10s and As out of the shoe?

Have you checked out the double deck games? Seems like you could tell in pretty short order on the hand held games if this was the case. If they are not pulling high cards, play the hand helds. Also, if they aren't pulling high cards on the hand helds, they probably aren't on the shoe games.

Then again, the probably do have expert card mechanics on staff for the hand helds to get you. Maybe they are pulling high cards from the shoes and employing card mechanics too??

Diabolical.