Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

I think that is a reference to Keystone. But you can easily be inducted by the hobo if you simply reference his obvious fondness for the Singer 9.5.

Okay, I am shocked by this -- I didn't know any this stuff. I was wondering why mickey uses so much homo-erotic language. I got to thinking about it, and I really had no clue. So what the hell...I googled it.

Wow and Yowza and Holy Hell.

https://www.courant.com/news/connect...688-story.html


So the word "gay" as meaning "homosexual" originated in American hobo culture. That seemed creepy, but I guess when you think about it...not many hobo women, so I guess I should have expected it.

Anyway, hobos starting calling greenhorns, their version of cabin boys, "gaycats" in the 1930s. And that directly led to the American word "gay" as meaning homosexual. According to the article, one element of hobo life is "mentoring," and that took many forms.

I guess I'm understanding the odd homo-erotic language now. Who knew? I sure didn't. It's a little creepy, finding out that hobos are kind of like Boy Scout leaders in their spare time, and they have a lot of spare time.

This is one of those things that should have really been obvious. I just never put two and two together.
I'm not going to turn my adblocker off to read the article. But a greenhorn and cabin boy are not the same thing. The hobo jungle is a tough place. Gays were hated by the tramps I knew. Gayboys would get themselves killed on the rails. They would be found dead along the tracks.

Redietz would get his candy ass killed on the rails. If you ride freight trains and sleep in the hobo jungle you better be a tough motherfucker.

Red, whats up with your buttbuddy, maxie, writing about nine inch dick everyday. Are you saying he's a cabin boy?


I guess mickey prefers to not read about how gays were about as rare among hoboes as in Greenwich Village on a Friday night. The word "gay" as referring to homosexuals started with American hoboes because many of the young hoboes were called "gaycats." Older hoboes groomed them.

I should have realized that an all-male lifestyle has its motives. But I just had never seen hoboes-as-gay on any television or movie shows, and I hadn't really thought much about it.

Obviously many hoboes had some avant garde and possibly sexually traumatic events with their lifestyle, and I can see how someone would refuse to read about or acknowledge that an all-male lifestyle would inevitably lead to certain language and fears of being outed. It's like coming out of prison. Nobody talks about what went on in prison when lights go out.

It is telling, actually quite a giveaway, that mickey actively avoids all information that goes against whatever he's trying to sell in life.