Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

Well it isn't just the mountain states that have been in a drought for years. Maybe these aren't even droughts anymore?

I am no fan of the Chinese but they have more of a chance of making progress just because of their top-down dictatorship type government.

BTW, China has said they'll be carbon-neutral by 2060. That is not when they claim they'll start.

The best part is the conspiracy that deniers claim (liberal this-that yadda yadda) is a bit crazy. They're basically suggesting some Illuminati type shit that transcends both the Chinese and Western countries in this crazy global conspiracy. huh? whaaa?

The fact of the matter is that all that oil/gas took many many millions of years to be created and we're releasing it over the course of 1-200 years, but yea, clever bringing up forest fires which are going to get progressively worse until those eco-systems die off/trees are gone. It is more the cause and not a symptom, right?

BTW, if trees burned naturally it'd be carbon neutral affair as they would recapture the CO2 as the trees etc grew back. That won't happen when their environment is inhabitable to their species.
From what I've read gas burning cars will no longer be produced in US after 2040. The technology is slowly getting us there. That's the future. But that's no reason why we should be paying $5 or more per gallon of gas now. The eventual reality of renewanble energy means there will be a huge amount of oil left in the ground. The oil companies won't be able to give it away.

I see the fast chargers at gas stops for electric cars. Not that many of them so far. The EV's are great for local driving but right now a lot of time is spent at those charging stations for people on long trips.

Here's a prediction by me. Hotels will eventually have charging stations at every parking spot in their parking lots.

We are getting there on carbon neutral but I don't go for "the sky is falling" bullshit about we have to spend ourselves broke to shift to renewables. It's a huge money grab by the doomsday climate change activists.
It is unfortunate but those cars aren't even really a solution. They're a very small step towards what needs to be done.

Money grab? With oil, you find existing oil and sell it. What is the edge of all these hippies and academics? They have their lithium mines and are just waiting? Tell me how this works, this "money grab". What are they selling?

Basically all those limits that the climate organizations said we needed to meet to be on a reasonable path were hit far ahead of time. I'm not really sure what "sky is falling" means, but it is clear we haven't done much of anything and things keep getting worse and rapidly.

A uniform 3 degree increase would be fine, but it is the outlier events that cause the issues that things don't recover from.

You've been told lots of talking points. The charging of the cars isn't really that long. I bought an EV - every 270 miles you need to sit around for 20 minutes or so. Far less tending to it than regular gas when you do. You can sit in your car and do whatever. You can get out to eat at some places. This idea that people sit around in their cars all the time for the battery to charge is just a talking point pushing by oil/gas/automative industry. Regardless, it isn't near the issue it is made to be.

Gas was historically low for ages so every doofus thought they needed a huge truck for their masculinity. Now they whine when they can't afford it. No one has said oil will always be very cheap.

I'm curious how this is Biden's fault as the price of oil at the barrel level is not high enough to justify the prices.. Anyway, this is all just another type of entitlement. I don't really know what the issues are but I do know when all that free money was being handed out that I didn't get much of - it wasn't Biden as President.
When the pandemic hit and demand crashed, oil companies had two options -- keep their workforce and keep drilling, or lay off their workforce and stop drilling. Well guess what they did? After laying off 100,000 people, they then had the option of rehiring when demand went back up and resume drilling or just raise prices. Guess what they chose?

That's pretty much the nuts and bolts of current prices. The biggest single variable dictating gasoline prices is oil price per barrel. Taxes and government policies have effects, but those other variables, all combined, probably have less impact on gasoline prices than the price per barrel of oil.