The Mdawg "challenge"

[The Boz]

So I was reading the latest chapter of the Mdog fiction - fantasy adventure over at WoV. If you remember Mdog abruptly ended his latest Vegas trip because two different AP, were in the process of negotiating a challenge to his claims and his challenge stated "for as long as this trip lasts, so he abruptly ended the trip. So now barely a week later, he has received multiple offers for thousands of dollars to return to Las Vegas.

Now a couple things about this. For most of us, it takes a month or more for offers to be generated. I suppose for higher end players that process can be expedited. Any of you higher end players want to weigh in?

Second thing is that for table game players, especially blackjack which is half of Mdogs play now, Vegas almost totally did away with anything as far as offers, years ago or at the very least dramatically cut offers for table game players. Again, I suppose that may be different for higher end players losing regularly.

Which brings me to this point. This Mdog person has now posted of half dozen trips since he emerged at WoV under this handle. Each and every one of those trips a huge winning trip and nearly every day a winning day. So Las Vegas casinos just can't wait to get this perpetual winning player back to Vegas with all kinds of high end offers. So I ask you all is that the way it works?

OR

Is the way it really works is that they can't wait to entice a perpetual LOSING player, a whale or mini whale with a long history of being a LOSING player back?

I will leave it to you all to decide for yourself. The things this person claims, besides defying the math, just is NOT the way Las Vegas works.

I’m going to “defend” MDawg somewhat here. What? Has Boz lost it? Maybe, but not on this one.

The casino you believe he plays the most at Cosmo is one that I also have decent history at and can explain how their system has worked in my case. And I have no reason to believe this isn’t standard operating procedure.

I get an offer for X in Free Play and X in Resort Credit for usually a 6-8 week period, say August 11th to October 3rd. If I utilize that offer at any point, within a week after the trip I get a new offer starting immediately for another 6-8 weeks and at a level higher or lower based on my play compared to previous trips. Of all the casinos I have ever dealt with, Cosmo is most on top of quickly updating offers. And they don’t do set monthly mailers like Caesars does.

So I would absolutely believe him when he says he has a return offer already. But part 2 is also what I have said all along, he or anyone that is consistently taking them trip after trip for hundreds of thousands of dollars, won’t be welcomed back with open arms. Even casinos understand when someone is “too good” for them to allow to play at their property.

I do wonder how things will change with MGM taking over. By the way, in Vegas I have little experience with their resorts so I don’t know how fast they update offers after a visit. Or what changes we will see at Cosmo.

[kewlJ]

I’m going to “defend” MDawg somewhat here. What? Has Boz lost it? Maybe, but not on this one.

The casino you believe he plays the most at Cosmo is one that I also have decent history at and can explain how their system has worked in my case. And I have no reason to believe this isn’t standard operating procedure. .

WTF Boz, you are on the Mdog wagon train now?

I'm kidding. It is absolutely fine, that's why I asked people to weigh in. I suspected that because I am not a high rolling, losing player, there may be special expedited turn around for these people.

That really isn't the issue I am concerned about. During his time posting as Mdog, (he posted under a previous handle banned at Wov before that) this person claimed 6 trips to Las Vegas I believe, including several really long one lasting 6 months or more. Each and every one of those trips a huge winning trip, with almost every day a winning day. And prior to those trips he told us that he had been a winning player for 20 years.

That is really the basis of my question or challenge. THAT is what isn't the way Las Vegas works, comping these kinds of players, on top of what would be millions in winnings. I maintain that there is one thing missing for this to work exactly as Mdog claims and that is the losing. He is only telling us of the winning. He is leaving out all the losing that makes all the comps possible and is the way Las Vegas works.

I am not interested in comps and don't play rated, so my experience with Cosmo is on the surveillance end. Surveillance wise, they are top notch and have been since they came into existence. They utilize the latest equipment and technology. I have no doubt they are equally aggressive with marketing to the top LOSING players.

I don't think any of us (certainly not me) doubt that Mdog is a higher end player and as such receives higher end comps. It is just a shame (and sham) that he is leaving out all the losing involved to get that. And I don't know why. If he thinks it is worth it to lose xxxx to get xx comps he should just be honest about it. It would be a look inside high end play that most of us will never experience.