Originally Posted by
mickeycrimm
Originally Posted by
redietz
He put the "fascist takeover" line in there because emissions laws and such would be gutted by the hardcore right GOP, so there is a logical rationale there for the line.
If you and Jacobsen are claiming that fascism is a far right ideology you are as stupid as the Wikipedia ideologues that also call fascism a right wing ideology. Here's some history you can't refute.
Both fascism and communism grew out of marxism. The russians took it one way the Italians took it another. Mussolini was a socialist. Wikipedia says he was "originally" a socialist to mislead the ignorant. As if he changed when he gained power. No the fuck he didn't.
The truth is Mussolini continued his socialist ways while in power. The state name while he was in power was the Italian Social Republic. He nationalized the corporations and collectivized labor. There is not an arch conservative anywhere in this country that would nationalize the corps and collectivize labor. It is totally foreign to a conservative's nature. Conservatives want government to get the fuck out of the way of business and labor.
All the authoritarianism in this country comes from the left. You and Jacobsen are both lefty authoritarian bags of shit. You're both dangerous to democracy. You are both fascists.
It's nice when you draw conclusions based on something you admit you don't know anything about. You begin with "If I'm claiming that fascism is a far-right ideology" and then go off the rails. Well, I have how many posts here, 7000 or so, and I can't say that I've ever said fascism is a far right ideology. But you go with it, mickey. Then declare that I'm a fascist, after you started the entire post by admitting you don't know if I'm saying that fascism is exclusively, or even primarily, a far right ideology.
So let's get this pinned down. You start with the word "if," then provide no evidence (because there isn't any) about something I've posted, then declare I'm fascist based on me saying something you don't know if I've said. Okay, those are some skills you have there, mickey. Didn't know you were telepathic.
I guess this explains how you knew Rob did the double up bug. Telepathy. Rob telepaths the machines. You telepath Rob and me. Makes perfect sense.
Your ability to evaluate simple evidence, or lack thereof, has some serious issues.
I just want to add that Trump's crew is basically fascist in that it's trying to circumvent a one man/one vote process, which makes it anti-democratic. But much of the structure of American politics is anti-democratic. The Electoral College, the way Senate seats are apportioned with no regard to population, the way the Supreme Court is appointed via Senate vetting -- all of these are anti-democratic structures.