We just have to face the fact that redietz is delusional. Can you believe all that shit he pulled on axel? Arguing about what a 10 to 12% return means. That is classic ditz deflection. He doesn't want to deal with axel because axel blows to many holes in his arguments. And Ditz the Idiot also has no clue what he just did in that argument. No frickin' clue. He exposed his incompetence big time. No clue! He....he....he....wait for it....wait for it.....he....was telling potential investors on his website what the EXPECTED VALUE was for letting him make the bets. That 10% to 12% return he promised is nothing but pure out EXPECTED VALUE. He used the term "Return on Investment" but guess what, remove that term and insert EXPECTED VALUE and it means the same thing. Repeat same thing. Repeat same thing. You can't make this shit up.