The Verdict Is?

[kewlJ]

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

What is your deal dude?

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. While we have run into each other at few times, and played at the same tables, we didn't discover that until after the fact, so we never officially met. But we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend. Some of that was Singer bullshit with MaxPen sharing things he knew and had discovered that he didn't want to say publicly. Another time we were communicating about filing for unemployment during the covid shutdown, because THAT whole mess was very confusing and difficult. It took Nevada months to get their system up and working. The late Alan Mendelson was also very knowledgeable and helpful in this matter, as he was going through it as well.

MaxPen and a couple other Vegas AP's that were also friends with Shackleford, played a big part in me being re-instated at WoV. I greatly appreciated that.

On another occasion, MaxPen invited me to play pickleball with he and Shackleford, thinking maybe we could work out some differences. Truth be told, I don't even know what the fuck pickleball is. But that isn't why I declined. Years ago, when I first joined Stanford Wong's BJ21, one of the crankier, older members made a statement advising not to trust fellow AP's. That given the opportunity they will stab you in the back, even a fellow AP. And I have seen the results of that with the Monet - axelwolf meetup. So I have been very select about who I meet. And I know that rubs some AP's in this town that like to meet and socialize the wrong way. But it has served me well.

Now, I am not going to categorize Maxpens actions of late as "stabbing me in the back". If he didn't believe my accounts of the backroom incident and legal action, he had every right to look them up and post what he found or in this case didn't find. That is absolutely fair game. Although given our relashionship, had he contacted me privately, as we always have done, I would have shared some things with him, that I am not willing to share publicly. But he chose a different path.

But he has now taken it a lot further than that, embracing conspiracy theories, by Singer, Mdawg and this seedvalue and trying to discredit every thing about me, including saying things he knows or should know are not true. I honestly don't know what to make of that. But I can tell you this much....I am glad I never met him. He seems to now want to use anything and everything to attempt to discredit me.

I actually saw him do this with mickeycrimm.....saying things he knew wasn't true. I mean they both were doing that, so I didn't say much either way, even though I didn't like it. But I don't get it. If you don't like someone, or in this case have recently decided you don't like someone, why is it necessary to say things you KNOW are not true?

[kewlJ]

These forums are just totally fucked up now with all this bullshit and trying to discredit someone that you decide you don't like. And repeated DOXING!

I am waiting for Dan Druff to weigh in on yet ANOTHER case of Mdawg doxing me, but almost regardless of any action taken or not taken, why should any AP share anything on these forums?

[accountinquestion]

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

What is your deal dude?

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. While we have run into each other at few times, and played at the same tables, we didn't discover that until after the fact, so we never officially met. But we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend. Some of that was Singer bullshit with MaxPen sharing things he knew and had discovered that he didn't want to say publicly. Another time we were communicating about filing for unemployment during the covid shutdown, because THAT whole mess was very confusing and difficult. It took Nevada months to get their system up and working. The late Alan Mendelson was also very knowledgeable and helpful in this matter, as he was going through it as well.

MaxPen and a couple other Vegas AP's that were also friends with Shackleford, played a big part in me being re-instated at WoV. I greatly appreciated that.

On another occasion, MaxPen invited me to play pickleball with he and Shackleford, thinking maybe we could work out some differences. Truth be told, I don't even know what the fuck pickleball is. But that isn't why I declined. Years ago, when I first joined Stanford Wong's BJ21, one of the crankier, older members made a statement advising not to trust fellow AP's. That given the opportunity they will stab you in the back, even a fellow AP. And I have seen the results of that with the Monet - axelwolf meetup. So I have been very select about who I meet. And I know that rubs some AP's in this town that like to meet and socialize the wrong way. But it has served me well.

Now, I am not going to categorize Maxpens actions of late as "stabbing me in the back". If he didn't believe my accounts of the backroom incident and legal action, he had every right to look them up and post what he found or in this case didn't find. That is absolutely fair game. Although given our relashionship, had he contacted me privately, as we always have done, I would have shared some things with him, that I am not willing to share publicly. But he chose a different path.

But he has now taken it a lot further than that, embracing conspiracy theories, by Singer, Mdawg and this seedvalue and trying to discredit every thing about me, including saying things he knows or should know are not true. I honestly don't know what to make of that. But I can tell you this much....I am glad I never met him. He seems to now want to use anything and everything to attempt to discredit me.

I actually saw him do this with mickeycrimm.....saying things he knew wasn't true. I mean they both were doing that, so I didn't say much either way, even though I didn't like it. But I don't get it. If you don't like someone, or in this case have recently decided you don't like someone, why is it necessary to say things you KNOW are not true?

The fact that you write up these elaborate posts instead of just giving a trusted person the case number ....

Lying about all sorts of stuff is obnoxious and basically stabbing everyone else in the back. Just like the story about the el cortez ASM. I brought this up a couple of times with other people. "on good authority". This I don't appreciate as I am the opposite of you. I am actually a bit too honest. When I fuck up I own up. I've actually been trying to not do this as much simply because it doesn't really help me except make me feel accountable.

It is clear a lot of your life revolves around this charade you go through online. I don't really dislike you or even hold you ill will but the lying is not excusable. It is beyond a major character flaw when you draw other people into your nonsense and they possibly rely on the information. I hope this whole thing isn't too depressing for you because in general it is a minor thing but I feel it could be crushing to you. You don't seem like a good guy but definitely not a bad guy either.

Keep that chin up - stick with grinding low limit blackjack. Best of luck.

Just don't break an arm, count 3 tables at once, or fake your own death. Know difference between defendant and plaintiff.

BTW - none of this is a conspiracy. The conspiracy would have to be with you and yourself. Stop calling it that.

Maxpen is also not using everything to discredit you. He tried to find credibility. A lot of us have. This is why I asked you to dm Todd the case number. Everyone knows where you live and all this other stuff. Stop playing victim. You brought it upon yourself. That isn't going to work with this crowd.

[MaxPen]

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

What is your deal dude?

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. While we have run into each other at few times, and played at the same tables, we didn't discover that until after the fact, so we never officially met. But we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend. Some of that was Singer bullshit with MaxPen sharing things he knew and had discovered that he didn't want to say publicly. Another time we were communicating about filing for unemployment during the covid shutdown, because THAT whole mess was very confusing and difficult. It took Nevada months to get their system up and working. The late Alan Mendelson was also very knowledgeable and helpful in this matter, as he was going through it as well.

MaxPen and a couple other Vegas AP's that were also friends with Shackleford, played a big part in me being re-instated at WoV. I greatly appreciated that.

On another occasion, MaxPen invited me to play pickleball with he and Shackleford, thinking maybe we could work out some differences. Truth be told, I don't even know what the fuck pickleball is. But that isn't why I declined. Years ago, when I first joined Stanford Wong's BJ21, one of the crankier, older members made a statement advising not to trust fellow AP's. That given the opportunity they will stab you in the back, even a fellow AP. And I have seen the results of that with the Monet - axelwolf meetup. So I have been very select about who I meet. And I know that rubs some AP's in this town that like to meet and socialize the wrong way. But it has served me well.

Now, I am not going to categorize Maxpens actions of late as "stabbing me in the back". If he didn't believe my accounts of the backroom incident and legal action, he had every right to look them up and post what he found or in this case didn't find. That is absolutely fair game. Although given our relashionship, had he contacted me privately, as we always have done, I would have shared some things with him, that I am not willing to share publicly. But he chose a different path.

But he has now taken it a lot further than that, embracing conspiracy theories, by Singer, Mdawg and this seedvalue and trying to discredit every thing about me, including saying things he knows or should know are not true. I honestly don't know what to make of that. But I can tell you this much....I am glad I never met him. He seems to now want to use anything and everything to attempt to discredit me.

I actually saw him do this with mickeycrimm.....saying things he knew wasn't true. I mean they both were doing that, so I didn't say much either way, even though I didn't like it. But I don't get it. If you don't like someone, or in this case have recently decided you don't like someone, why is it necessary to say things you KNOW are not true?

Name one thing I've said that isn't true. I live by the truth. You violated the truth. You are calling this trolling. What I'm doing is truthing.

Your jig is up. You exposed yourself. No wonder you never wanted to meet anyone for real. You sat around and bitched and complained about this or that. You were offered opportunity to set stuff straight. But it all makes sense. A phony can't overcome that in person face to face. That's reality.

[MaxPen]

These forums are just totally fucked up now with all this bullshit and trying to discredit someone that you decide you don't like. And repeated DOXING!

I am waiting for Dan Druff to weigh in on yet ANOTHER case of Mdawg doxing me, but almost regardless of any action taken or not taken, why should any AP share anything on these forums?

They shouldn't share anything. Haven't you learned that yet?

[kewlJ]

Name one thing I've said that isn't true.

"I'm going to have to now even jump on the belief that he really is a low level card counter that had a sugar daddy like most of the AP community believes".

[MaxPen]

Name one thing I've said that isn't true.

"I'm going to have to now even jump on the belief that he really is a low level card counter that had a sugar daddy like most of the AP community believes".

Considering my observations of you counting was you spreading red chips to green in the Eastside Cannery. What level card counter is that?

I never drew conclusions based on that due to the property.

Based on my observations of your appearance and your husband's physical appearance tell me an observer could say that's not a sugar daddy situation.

I always defended you to other APs that somehow drew those conclusions without even seeing you.

I'm dumb for defending someone that has definitively proven themself a fraud.

Next untrue statement I have said? I will wait. Although it may take me some time to respond. I have a plane to catch.

[AxelWolf]

Is that the new standard of this forum or any gambling forum? And why is it only me that needs prove something? Does mickeycrimm, Axelwolf, JBJB or any other AP need prove anything they say or share? .

Is there something specific being asked about me or one of my claims? If there was a legitimate question from a legitimate member of one of my claims, I would be more than happy to provide the necessary proof to satisfy any reasonable person of its legitimacy. There's a difference between you and me when it comes to this stuff.

While I don't post up my personal details and all my secrets online, I certainly don't hide and remain elusive, I have met hundreds of people from the online forums and in the gambling "community" who know who I am and what I do.

Many of them have done various plays, with/for/ alongside or worked me on something AP related. I don't say stuff like "I know of big named/Known AP etc who know me, but, I can't tell you who(that's exactly what we have been hearing from you for years). I'll tell you who, and even have it verified if there's a legitimate reason to do so. Hey if someone doesn't believe one of my claims they can put their money where their mouth is. No doubt there's stuff that happened many years ago that any proof would be hard or nearly impossible to provide but that's irrelevant since there's usually a pattern if someone is believeable or not.

IMO, with this particular incident of yours you should go out of your way to prove it(Use a trusted source to verify your claims. a little proof would go a long way, and a simple true or not true from them would be fine) Put up 1k or whatever and get paid from the non-believers (I bet Rob, MDawg and others would put some up money)

I don't want to hear this BS... "I'm not here to prove myself" You and others have been doing nothing but trying to prove yourself since day one. "Just trying to tell my story" It's gone way far beyond that for many years now, or you would've moved on way back when.
Given everything said here and the evidence provided, even some of your long-time "supporters" don't believe this went down as you described. I'm getting feedback from people who used to believe much of your story but now they are questioning everything you ever said.

It's simple did KJ get detained, a fractured arm, involve an attorney, and got a settlement offer from the casino? Easy to proof without any negative repercussions.

[kewlJ]

Having said that it's easy to believe the sugar daddy angle because,, well you know why...lol

I have never looked into where you live. I don't care where you live. If you live in the Panorama Towers or whatever who cares. It proves nothing. It doesn't take an exorbitant amount of money to live there. One could have easily moved there when cashing in a half million dollar estate of a deceased loved one. Especially back when your husband died. The only hurdle for a low income card counter would be the HOA fees there. That's easily solved by shacking up with a brother and even another "roommate".

Posts have been coming fast and furious today, so I missed this one.

No, I don't know why you would beleive that. Tell me/us?

As for the rest, my partner had no money. He was on social security disability for several decades, since before I even met him. His monthly SS was just over $1200 when he died. I didn't inherit money when he died....it cost me money, because I chose to distrust some money to his 3 adult children. It was money that I felt like he contributed to our winning because he handled our machine play. It wasn't really his, it was ours, but I just felt like that was the right thing to do. So his dealth ended up costing me quite a bit of money.

I sold the house which I had paid for and bought the condo with that money.

But I am just sick of this. What the fuck, Maxpen?? Look at what you just made up with this half a million dollar estate bullshit.

I fucking give up. You guys win. Discredit me with your lies and made up bullshit all you want. It doesn't change my real life one bit.

[monet]

Dude lied to everyone about his own death.
He literally faked his own death.
Case Closed!

[monet]

So, KJ, now that the supposed case, supposedly, can't be found, anyway, please give out the case number. Who could care about that now, unless you have no idea what a case # looks like for the court in question?

In other words, wouldn't there be a gap somewhere along the line, in the known case numbers?


P.S. And, oh, Max, you'll have to update your avatar, from a picture of MickeyCrimm, to one of KJ. Now I wonder when a feud between Monet, and, Tablepooey, will hit the screen. Not really anybody left. Ha.

Never gonna happen.
If for some odd reason Tableplay started to attack me, I wouldn't respond.
Tableplay = Good Guy.
If he decides to hate me now, I can live with that, but I refuse to ever drag him through the mud or post one bad word about him.

[soxfan]

Bbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, the kewl-J got such a ridiculous, over-the-tops victim-persecution complex, hey hey.

[monet]

Bbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, the kewl-J got such a ridiculous, over-the-tops victim-persecution complex, hey hey.

lul
hey hey!

[kewlJ]

Considering my observations of you counting was you spreading red chips to green in the Eastside Cannery. What level card counter is that?

Well then you are thinking of the wrong guy. I have never spread red to green anywhere since my lower limit first few years in Atlantic City.

When I played 'smaller' venues like East Cannery, would tone my normal spread down to $25 to $200 or sometimes $250. Down from my normal $400 max bet at that time, but I NEVER played red to green. NEVER.

At Jerry's nugget I would flat bet $25 or use a very slight $25-$75 spread, playing the CSM, because I was playing to generate the weekly $25 match play.

I am trying to remember the Monday promotion at Club Fortune that lead to my backoff there. It was some kind of deal that paid an extra $50 for a suited blackjack or something like that. The +EV was in hitting that suited BJ. It didn't matter if you were betting $5 or $100, $50 was the bonus, so I played red there. But nowhere that I was traditionally counting have I ever played red in Las Vegas.

So if that is what you are basing it on....you have the wrong guy.

[kewlJ]

Oh yeah, I also played about 100 individual hands at $10 at Palms because I had 100 $10 matchplays. But never bet red as part of my regular card counting.

[coach belly]

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend.

Why haven't you sent your friend Maxipad some proof of your saga?

Almost anything would work in your favor at this point.

This is an epic beatdown, you have absolutely no support...who would have expected the forum to unite like this?

[coach belly]

So if that is what you are basing it on....you have the wrong guy.

Are you retracting your claim that maxi knows who you are, has seen you, played on the same table as you, and can vouch for you as a real player?

[kewlJ]

At many of the smaller venues, the table would be a $10 table, but my minimum wages was always at least $25. And the reason I didn't use the table minimum as my minimum wages is because I only like to spread through 2 colors. Spreading through 3 or more colors is a huge tell.

[accountinquestion]

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend.

Why haven't you sent your friend Maxipad some proof of your saga?

Almost anything would work in your favor at this point.

This is an epic beatdown, you have absolutely no support...who would have expected the forum to unite like this?

It would be hard to find a forum with worse attributes for Kewl to carry on his charade. lol.... poor feller.

The fact that he doesn't give up is kinda admirable I suppose.

[kewlJ]

So if that is what you are basing it on....you have the wrong guy.

Are you retracting your claim that maxi knows who you are, has seen you, played on the same table as you, and can vouch for you as a real player?

That is up to him. We both witnessed the same blind guy being cheated and treated poorly at two different casinos. Being that we both witnessed this, I have a player and face in mind. But that blind guy...a pretty nasty guy himself, was a regular, so it is possible we witnessed the same or similar treatment at different times.

I still think not...but if he thinks I was speeding red to green....he has the wrong guy. I last spread red to green at Borgata in AC back in 2006 or 2007.