The Verdict Is?

[coach belly]

if he thinks I was speeding red to green....he has the wrong guy.

OK...so let's go with "he has the wrong guy".

One down, and one to go...and Mr. Confident is the other guy?...

It's been confirmed by 2 people I feel confident have seen him at the tables.

[monet]

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend.

Why haven't you sent your friend Maxipad some proof of your saga?

Almost anything would work in your favor at this point.

This is an epic beatdown, you have absolutely no support...who would have expected the forum to unite like this?

It would be hard to find a forum with worse attributes for Kewl to carry on his charade. lol.... poor feller.

The fact that he doesn't give up is kinda admirable I suppose.

kewlJ has ibeatyouraces in his corner.
Those Fags stick together.

[Gottlob]

Dude lied to everyone about his own death.
He literally faked his own death. Case Closed!

Yeah, but, it's gotta be a lot worse to lie for Trump, Jimmy Dore, and, say, about the covid stuff. That sort and degree of stuff very likely led to quite a few actual unnecessary deaths. The following talk doesn't help, either.

kewlJ has ibeatyouraces in his corner. Those Fags stick together.

[kewlJ]

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend.

Why haven't you sent your friend Maxipad some proof of your saga?

Almost anything would work in your favor at this point.

This is an epic beatdown, you have absolutely no support...who would have expected the forum to unite like this?

I don't know why this is so difficult for you people to understand?

I will not prove a single thing about anything.

I will not prove anything about this incident/case that can be used to harm me.
I will not prove where I live for those that haven't figured it out or doubt it.
I will not prove what stakes I play.
I won't even prove that the sky I am looking at is blue.

Nor have I ever asked ANYONE, including people like Singer and Mdawg to prove anything to me.

This is not what an anonymous forum is about. No one is on trial. Just the same as when Alan and redietz both tried to say advantage players shouldn't post anonymously. Anyone that doesn't understand these things, doesn't understand advantage play and the dangers advantage players face.

Many members of different forums have said individual things that I didn't or don't believe. That never made me question there claims of being an AP. Micketycrimm on THIS forum has said things I don't believe when he is in trolling mode. That doesn't mean I don't believe everything mickey has to say about his AP experiences.

Maybe you all use a different standard, but for me, I can figure out who knows what they are talking about as far as gambling claims in very short order. It just isn't hard to know who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. And whether I like that person, or dislike that person, or disapprove of their lifestyle, or anything else doesn't matter in the slightest. I still know they know what they are talking about.

And if there is anybody that seriously doesn't think I know what I am talking about with my blackjack claims, they are either an idiot, or lying to themselves based on a bias. And you don't know the things I know and have shared by reading books. And you don't learn them from playing $5 blackjack. You learn these things through real experiences playing the levels I claim.

Hell, I don't even know if a person in Vegas can get backed off playing red to green, except at a few absolutely retarded places like El Cortez. And speaking of which, you will get backed off faster at El Co spreading $10 to $50 than you will playing $50 to $300. Off topic really, but just came to mind when I mentioned the location.

[monet]

Dude lied to everyone about his own death.
He literally faked his own death. Case Closed!

Yeah, but, it's gotta be a lot worse to lie for Trump, Jimmy Dore, and, say, about the covid stuff. That sort and degree of stuff very likely led to quite a few actual unnecessary deaths. The following talk doesn't help, either.

kewlJ has ibeatyouraces in his corner. Those Fags stick together.

It's the flu.
Always was the flu.
Still is the flu.
You're gonna catch the flu.
We will all keep catching the flu.
You're gonna be ok.
98% of the people who died were on their way out anyways.
We all must experience death.
Even the Fags.
If you make it past 40 years, you are in the bonus zone.
Free Spins!
Life is basically over after 40 as you better have it all figured out by that time or you're Fucked.
And most people are Fucked from the getgo anyways.
Way of the world.

[soxfan]

I wonder why the dan druff ain't chime in to offer opinion on the whole kewl-J saga. But then the boy once actually try to claim that the r-e-dietz got credibilities, hey hey.

[monet]

I wonder why the dan druff ain't chime in to offer opinion on the whole kewl-J saga. But then the boy once actually try to claim that the r-e-dietz got credibilities, hey hey.

Too Busy betting one unit on one daily baseball game.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[kewlJ]

I will tell you something else. 6 months ago, AccountinQuestion posted a poll asking who was more believable, myself, redeitz, Singer or Mdawg? AinQ thought and hoped the poll would result in Singer and Mdawg. (I finsihed first not that it matters in the slightest because the whole poll was an act of trolling).

Dan Druff, a professional poker players who knows how to read people, plus has information not available to everyone, weighed in with:

redeitz and kewlJ are believable

Singer and MDawg... not so much

And since that time, there has been a very definite effort to run me and redeitz off this forum because some people don't like us....were not members of 'the club'.

There is something very wrong with you people that you think like this...in terms of your little club or 'clique' like in Jr high school.

...and maybe something even more wrong with those of us that continue to post here.

[soxfan]

Yup, the r-e-dietz/magnum pi sure got the credibilites, hey hey.

[coach belly]

I will not prove anything about this incident/case that can be used to harm me.
Nor have I ever asked ANYONE, including people like Singer and Mdawg to prove anything to me.

That's a BS excuse...you could easily PM V or maxi something that won't be used to harm you.

This backrooming saga is not a gambling claim.

When you press MDawg about his mansion, or Singer about his Newell, aren't you asking them to prove something?

I will not prove a single thing about anything.

So far you can't.

[Rob.Singer]

I have always had a good relationship with Maxpen. we have communicated privately a lot. I considered him an online friend.

Why haven't you sent your friend Maxipad some proof of your saga?

Almost anything would work in your favor at this point.

This is an epic beatdown, you have absolutely no support...who would have expected the forum to unite like this?

I don't know why this is so difficult for you people to understand?

I will not prove a single thing about anything.

I will not prove anything about this incident/case that can be used to harm me.
I will not prove where I live for those that haven't figured it out or doubt it.
I will not prove what stakes I play.
I won't even prove that the sky I am looking at is blue.

Nor have I ever asked ANYONE, including people like Singer and Mdawg to prove anything to me.

This is not what an anonymous forum is about. No one is on trial. Just the same as when Alan and redietz both tried to say advantage players shouldn't post anonymously. Anyone that doesn't understand these things, doesn't understand advantage play and the dangers advantage players face.

Many members of different forums have said individual things that I didn't or don't believe. That never made me question there claims of being an AP. Micketycrimm on THIS forum has said things I don't believe when he is in trolling mode. That doesn't mean I don't believe everything mickey has to say about his AP experiences.

Maybe you all use a different standard, but for me, I can figure out who knows what they are talking about as far as gambling claims in very short order. It just isn't hard to know who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. And whether I like that person, or dislike that person, or disapprove of their lifestyle, or anything else doesn't matter in the slightest. I still know they know what they are talking about.

And if there is anybody that seriously doesn't think I know what I am talking about with my blackjack claims, they are either an idiot, or lying to themselves based on a bias. And you don't know the things I know and have shared by reading books. And you don't learn them from playing $5 blackjack. You learn these things through real experiences playing the levels I claim.

Hell, I don't even know if a person in Vegas can get backed off playing red to green, except at a few absolutely retarded places like El Cortez. And speaking of which, you will get backed off faster at El Co spreading $10 to $50 than you will playing $50 to $300. Off topic really, but just came to mind when I mentioned the location.

Using more lies to cover up for countless lies...... absolutely pathetic.

You spend your entire existence trying to prove what you aren't--as well as trying to prove others aren't what they say they are or don't do or live or even breathe the way they say they
do--on every forum that'll let you blab your neurotic nonsense. And if you haven't yet figured it out....duh!...you only continue your humiliation by pretending you can't show proof of your stupid hoax because of this or that weakass excuse.

What a dunce.

[Gottlob]

Yeah, but, it's gotta be a lot worse to lie for Trump, Jimmy Dore, and, say, about the covid stuff. That sort and degree of stuff very likely led to quite a few actual unnecessary deaths. The following talk doesn't help, either.

kewlJ has ibeatyouraces in his corner. Those Fags stick together.

We all must experience death.

Perhaps, neither can the spirit/soul be created, nor destroyed, but, only the illusions of who we are. In which case, it's only the truth that reigns eternal.

[accountinquestion]

I will tell you something else. 6 months ago, AccountinQuestion posted a poll asking who was more believable, myself, redeitz, Singer or Mdawg? AinQ thought and hoped the poll would result in Singer and Mdawg. (I finsihed first not that it matters in the slightest because the whole poll was an act of trolling).

Dan Druff, a professional poker players who knows how to read people, plus has information not available to everyone, weighed in with:

redeitz and kewlJ are believable

Singer and MDawg... not so much

And since that time, there has been a very definite effort to run me and redeitz off this forum because some people don't like us....were not members of 'the club'.

There is something very wrong with you people that you think like this...in terms of your little club or 'clique' like in Jr high school.

...and maybe something even more wrong with those of us that continue to post here.

I don't recall hoping or thinking that you Singer or Mdawg be the winner. More bullshit but perhaps - you remember what I was thinking more than me. (You being the guy who doesn't care) On the other hand I don't even recall what I was hoping for. I'd guess I just thought it was a funny troll to put all 3 of you in the same basket. The reality is until recently you were fairly well believed. I was one of your greater doubters but shrug at the end of the day I have no real clue.

No surprise you try to paint yourself as the biggest martyr. We all know you're just a man living his life as a counter and sharing your experiences with others. lol.

No surprise you just make up shit with no basis. You've done this numerous times. The poll was not based around you.

More claiming victim.

What "clique" am I in? Monet, Crimm, Seedvalue and Redietz, DannyN don't like me. I doubt Tableplay is a fan.

No one has been trying to run of Redietz anymore than you have been trying to run off Singer or Mdawg.

Grow up. Stop being such a loser.

What an epic forum beat down.

[tableplay]

So, KJ, now that the supposed case, supposedly, can't be found, anyway, please give out the case number. Who could care about that now, unless you have no idea what a case # looks like for the court in question?

In other words, wouldn't there be a gap somewhere along the line, in the known case numbers?


P.S. And, oh, Max, you'll have to update your avatar, from a picture of MickeyCrimm, to one of KJ. Now I wonder when a feud between Monet, and, Tablepooey, will hit the screen. Not really anybody left. Ha.

Bill, your Gottlob1 alias is just as good at churning out manure as your other aliases. Well done.

[tableplay]

So, KJ, now that the supposed case, supposedly, can't be found, anyway, please give out the case number. Who could care about that now, unless you have no idea what a case # looks like for the court in question?

In other words, wouldn't there be a gap somewhere along the line, in the known case numbers?


P.S. And, oh, Max, you'll have to update your avatar, from a picture of MickeyCrimm, to one of KJ. Now I wonder when a feud between Monet, and, Tablepooey, will hit the screen. Not really anybody left. Ha.

Never gonna happen.
If for some odd reason Tableplay started to attack me, I wouldn't respond.
Tableplay = Good Guy.
If he decides to hate me now, I can live with that, but I refuse to ever drag him through the mud or post one bad word about him.

The feeling is mutual Monet - you're a terrific person. Only a moron like Bill would consider such a possibility.

[Gottlob]

So, KJ, now that the supposed case, supposedly, can't be found, anyway, please give out the case number. Who could care about that now, unless you have no idea what a case # looks like for the court in question?

In other words, wouldn't there be a gap somewhere along the line, in the known case numbers?


P.S. And, oh, Max, you'll have to update your avatar, from a picture of MickeyCrimm, to one of KJ. Now I wonder when a feud between Monet, and, Tablepooey, will hit the screen. Not really anybody left. Ha.

Bill, your Gottlob1 alias is just as good at churning out manure as your other aliases. Well done.

Interestingly, I had no idea that it was to be Gottlob1, as the initialism comprising the first letters of my aliases, over the years here, until only a few days ago, when I created the Gottlob account(s). Quite a coincidence, the way it worked out. Same with a lot of the rest of it, in general. Came naturally, I guess.

Regardless, thanks for the upvote - you, being such a purveyor of pooey, know good manure when and where you come across it. But, aren't you being a little presumptuous, now that I have, more or less, finished my theory of everything, in terms of at least keeping an open mind to the result? Given especially that it now comes directly down to the numerals, without any leeway for speculation? Even you might readily appreciate how it turned out. Others may throw crap at each other, for years, but, I'm not even allowed to put forth the evidence?

So, KJ, now that the supposed case, supposedly, can't be found, anyway, please give out the case number. Who could care about that now, unless you have no idea what a case # looks like for the court in question?

In other words, wouldn't there be a gap somewhere along the line, in the known case numbers?


P.S. And, oh, Max, you'll have to update your avatar, from a picture of MickeyCrimm, to one of KJ. Now I wonder when a feud between Monet, and, Tablepooey, will hit the screen. Not really anybody left. Ha.

Never gonna happen. If for some odd reason Tableplay started to attack me, I wouldn't respond. Tableplay = Good Guy. If he decides to hate me now, I can live with that, but I refuse to ever drag him through the mud or post one bad word about him.

The feeling is mutual Monet - you're a terrific person. Only a moron like Bill would consider such a possibility.

Folie à deux's are more than a possibility. And, probably, more common in the gambling world, whereby the internal narrative becomes a shared experience. Other-reinforced confirmation bias, and, etc. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux

In other words, as Max put it, healthy relationships come down to "truthing", which amounts to saying things that aren't always "cool", or otherwise popular. "Truthing: Telling the truth, especially an unpleasant or unwelcome truth, about someone or something." The "fake news" stuff is more of a cult thing, stemming from its leader. As in one such leader, then one such shared internal narrative. Furthermore, likely something to do with Monet's supposed very strong father figure, and, the such child abuse.

[AxelWolf]

KJ
"I will not prove anything about this incident/case that can be used to harm me.
I will not prove where I live for those that haven't figured it out or doubt it.
I will not prove what stakes I play.
I won't even prove that the sky I am looking at is blue."

What if it could be proven in a way that couldn't harm you?

[MaxPen]

No, I don't know why you would beleive that. Tell me/us?

But I am just sick of this. What the fuck, Maxpen?? Look at what you just made up with this half a million dollar estate bullshit.

It's the same as when you see a late 20's early 30's average lady with a dumpy, tele-tubby looking, balding 50 something year old guy. She's there for the money.

[MaxPen]

I will not prove anything about this incident/case that can be used to harm me.
I will not prove where I live for those that haven't figured it out or doubt it.
I will not prove what stakes I play.
I won't even prove that the sky I am looking at is blue.

What if it could be proven in a way that couldn't harm you?[/QUOTE]

There's nothing to prove. Dude is a fraud.

[MaxPen]

Considering my observations of you counting was you spreading red chips to green in the Eastside Cannery. What level card counter is that?

Well then you are thinking of the wrong guy. I have never spread red to green anywhere since my lower limit first few years in Atlantic City.

When I played 'smaller' venues like East Cannery, would tone my normal spread down to $25 to $200 or sometimes $250. Down from my normal $400 max bet at that time, but I NEVER played red to green. NEVER.

At Jerry's nugget I would flat bet $25 or use a very slight $25-$75 spread, playing the CSM, because I was playing to generate the weekly $25 match play.

I am trying to remember the Monday promotion at Club Fortune that lead to my backoff there. It was some kind of deal that paid an extra $50 for a suited blackjack or something like that. The +EV was in hitting that suited BJ. It didn't matter if you were betting $5 or $100, $50 was the bonus, so I played red there. But nowhere that I was traditionally counting have I ever played red in Las Vegas.

So if that is what you are basing it on....you have the wrong guy.

Nice try. I'm willing to bet a substantial amount of money that I could pick you out of a police style line up. Even though it's years later. I don't even need odds.