The Verdict Is?

[MisterV]

Dawg, I looked at the post but cannot agree with either of the only two choices.

Does KJ lie?

Yes, per his own admission.

Is he compulsive about it?

I think not; google says "Compulsive lying describes a condition in which a person tells falsehoods out of habit, sometimes for no reason at all. It is also known as pathological lying, mythomania, and habitual lying."

KJ lies SELECTIVELY, not COMPULSIVELY based on my observation.

[kewlJ]

whether 3 table counting, back rooming, or the rigged shufflers in the El Cortez.

You haters bring up counting 3 tables at once is a perfect example of your dishonesty. I have probably attempted to count 3 tables 3 or 4 times in my life. It would need to be a perfect situation where you are playing one table, and the tables on each side are both starting a new shoe (after the shuffle) at the same time. And then you could do it for probably 1 round, 2 at the absolute most before you would drop the lowest count and continue counting 2 tables until one showed to be a better opportunity.

I just don't know why there is so much skepticism on THIS forum about counting two tables, when conditions are right. I guess because there are only a few real blackjack players here. But you talk to a dozen real blackjack players especially that played 10 years ago and most likely a couple have tracked a second table while playing one at some point. It is the same concept as the spotter, big player call in approach used by Uston and the MIT teams (and most teams), except the player is playing both rolls.

And yes, conditions had to be just right. And now with all the variant type blackjack and poker games, and far less traditional blackjack tables, this opportunity has all but disappeared. You need a casino with a large pit that will have several blackjack tables open next to each other and still not be too crowded and that doesn't happen often. If it is not crowded, they don't need multiple regular blackjack tables open. I think that last 3 or 4 times I have been able to do this and it hasn't been recently, have all been at the same place....one of my favorites....South Point.

And the shuffle machines. Not going to repeat all that crap, but simply, there is no question that shuffle machines can shuffle the cards back into sequential order. That is one of the features. So if they can do that, they have the ability to shuffle the cards into any order desired. I hope there is no argument about that. And once you accept that, then the only argument is the casinos would NEVER do this. Really? The casinos would NEVER do this?

[MDawg]

Dawg, I looked at the post but cannot agree with either of the only two choices.

Does KJ lie?

Yes, per his own admission.

Is he compulsive about it?

I think not; google says "Compulsive lying describes a condition in which a person tells falsehoods out of habit, sometimes for no reason at all. It is also known as pathological lying, mythomania, and habitual lying."

KJ lies SELECTIVELY, not COMPULSIVELY based on my observation.

He is compulsive in that he lies for no reason and cannot help himself. That's pathological.

In this backrooming fable, he made up some story and then made up lies along the way to try to back it up. Then claimed that his continuing lies were somehow beneficial to him, even though the lies were easily disproved AND he came back and renounced all of them. So, what was the point of his lies if he was going to renounce them, and no one believed them along the way anyway?

As AccountInQuestion and others have pointed out, he can't stop lying, and therein lies the compulsion. It is like an addiction with him, he cannot control his lying, even when it winds up being adverse to his intended purpose, which is to try to appear like what he claims to be.

It is abundantly clear now to everyone that his claiming to have this or that document to back up his nonsense (the MGM Execs on Halloween fable, the case number to back up his backrooming incident) or this or that person to back up his nonsense (the unnamed, unknown APs who will vouch for him), were all lies, and yet he cannot help himself, he will continue the same pattern of lying even though it continues to destroys his credibility. That his addictive (compulsive) behavior, his lying, is adverse to his own intended purpose, is the nature of an uncontrollable compulsion.

If you read the below carefully, you will realize how spot on he was, about our friend:

You may not know him, but PunkCity over at GF.com summarized UNKewlJ pretty well a while back:

Yes you must be so sad as your post is about everything YOU do here this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand how often you contradict yourself, sometimes one post to the very next post you post this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand how often you post hypocritical posts this forum, you condemn the very behaviour you, yourself post about here this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand that you constantly discredit YOUR OWN character yet claim others are discrediting you.

[accountinquestion]

whether 3 table counting, back rooming, or the rigged shufflers in the El Cortez.

You haters bring up counting 3 tables at once is a perfect example of your dishonesty. I have probably attempted to count 3 tables 3 or 4 times in my life. It would need to be a perfect situation where you are playing one table, and the tables on each side are both starting a new shoe (after the shuffle) at the same time. And then you could do it for probably 1 round, 2 at the absolute most before you would drop the lowest count and continue counting 2 tables until one showed to be a better opportunity.

I just don't know why there is so much skepticism on THIS forum about counting two tables, when conditions are right. I guess because there are only a few real blackjack players here. But you talk to a dozen real blackjack players especially that played 10 years ago and most likely a couple have tracked a second table while playing one at some point. It is the same concept as the spotter, big player call in approach used by Uston and the MIT teams (and most teams), except the player is playing both rolls.

And yes, conditions had to be just right. And now with all the variant type blackjack and poker games, and far less traditional blackjack tables, this opportunity has all but disappeared. You need a casino with a large pit that will have several blackjack tables open next to each other and still not be too crowded and that doesn't happen often. If it is not crowded, they don't need multiple regular blackjack tables open. I think that last 3 or 4 times I have been able to do this and it hasn't been recently, have all been at the same place....one of my favorites....South Point.

And the shuffle machines. Not going to repeat all that crap, but simply, there is no question that shuffle machines can shuffle the cards back into sequential order. That is one of the features. So if they can do that, they have the ability to shuffle the cards into any order desired. I hope there is no argument about that. And once you accept that, then the only argument is the casinos would NEVER do this. Really? The casinos would NEVER do this?

The skepticism was not about 2 tables, it was about 3 tables. I'm not going to look up where this original conversation happened but feel free. Or feel free to just make up what others believe/say. You're good at that but it goes with your lack of being obliged to tell the truth.

IIRC you were saying you'd do this while sitting at a table. Which I found hilarious because how much darting around your eyes would be doing. In a vacuum I could see 3 tables be counted at once but in real life conditions? Hard to believe but then again I've never got into counting. I did read a few books back when I was younger. Ken Uston's book was great but I couldn't even tell you the name of it.

In regards to the rigged CSM - I never said the casinos would never do this. You are a proven liar though so believing your experiences was foolish. I was foolish for repeating it to others as factually having had happened. It may very well have happened but then again it has that "some anonymous AP contacted me" part you like to fall back on. Didn't you even say you bought one of these shufflers? Am I wrong there?

[kewlJ]

Didn't you even say you bought one of these shufflers? Am I wrong there?

Yes I did. I bought and possessed a machine for a period. Proved to myself that it could do exactly what I already was all but sure of. And then I sold it to a well known top table game AP here in Vegas. You know what he did with it? He already knew or like me strongly suspected the capabilities. He wanted to figure out how to use that to his advantage, which he did. He took it apart and deciphered it every which way. I was lucky enough that he shared a bit of what he discovered, but I know not everything.

And that is the difference between a top notch AP and myself. I am still kind of narrow focused on one thing at a time, while the top AP is searching for any advantage. Maybe some day I will get to that mindset.

BTW, it is rigged ASM we are talking about not CSM.

[accountinquestion]

Didn't you even say you bought one of these shufflers? Am I wrong there?

Yes I did. I bought and possessed a machine for a period. Proved to myself that it could do exactly what I already was all but sure of. And then I sold it to a well known top table game AP here in Vegas. You know what he did with it? He already knew or like me strongly suspected the capabilities. He wanted to figure out how to use that to his advantage, which he did. He took it apart and deciphered it every which way. I was lucky enough that he shared a bit of what he discovered, but I know not everything.

And that is the difference between a top notch AP and myself. I am still kind of narrow focused on one thing at a time, while the top AP is searching for any advantage. Maybe some day I will get to that mindset.

BTW, it is rigged ASM we are talking about not CSM.

Why would you buy one when the capabilities are publicly known?? You're not going to reprogram it for some sort of cheat mode so what would ever be the point in buying one? I guess it'd be cool to have and show your friends but the cheat modes would require a serious developer to create.

I bet you never posted one picture of it the whole time you talked about it ........

Why would this highlevel AP care about the mechanics of it !!??! Again - the anonymous high level AP.

The fact that the machine can sort a deck tells you all you need to know. After that it is a matter of figuring out all the ways a casino could cheat you with one.

"Took it apart and deciphered it". Like.. what does this mean? Does a rigged machine spit out cards faster? Did he hire a programmer to reprogram it? There is nothing there.

I actually have my own story about a rigged shuffler but it would be too close to outing me or the person who was behind the machines. So I won't tell it. I don't doubt they exist. I could easily be making up this story too. It was putting 2 and 2 together.

Ahh yes, ASM vs CSM. I didn't think of the distinction but clearly there should be one. Not my world.

[kewlJ]

Didn't you even say you bought one of these shufflers? Am I wrong there?

Yes I did. I bought and possessed a machine for a period. Proved to myself that it could do exactly what I already was all but sure of. And then I sold it to a well known top table game AP here in Vegas. You know what he did with it? He already knew or like me strongly suspected the capabilities. He wanted to figure out how to use that to his advantage, which he did. He took it apart and deciphered it every which way. I was lucky enough that he shared a bit of what he discovered, but I know not everything.

And that is the difference between a top notch AP and myself. I am still kind of narrow focused on one thing at a time, while the top AP is searching for any advantage. Maybe some day I will get to that mindset.

BTW, it is rigged ASM we are talking about not CSM.

Why would you buy one when the capabilities are publicly known?? You're not going to reprogram it for some sort of cheat mode so what would ever be the point in buying one? I guess it'd be cool to have and show your friends but the cheat modes would require a serious developer to create.

I bet you never posted one picture of it the whole time you talked about it ........

Why would this highlevel AP care about the mechanics of it !!??! Again - the anonymous high level AP.

The fact that the machine can sort a deck tells you all you need to know. After that it is a matter of figuring out all the ways a casino could cheat you with one.

"Took it apart and deciphered it". Like.. what does this mean? Does a rigged machine spit out cards faster? Did he hire a programmer to reprogram it? There is nothing there.

I actually have my own story about a rigged shuffler but it would be too close to outing me or the person who was behind the machines. So I won't tell it. I don't doubt they exist. I could easily be making up this story too. It was putting 2 and 2 together.

Ahh yes, ASM vs CSM. I didn't think of the distinction but clearly there should be one. Not my world.

Damn Straight that I didn't post a picture. I was illegal to possess that machine, at least at that time.

It was me that hired the programmer. It was a guy who knew nothing about any kind of shuffle machines. After fiddling with it for 10-15 minutes, he said Ok, I think I got it. It then took him about 45 second to access the mode required to do what I suspected and would be illegal.

When you make comments about "spitting out cards", I think you are still thinking of CSM (continuous shuffle machines). I am talking about ASM (automatic shuffle machines. These machine work by shuffling one set of cards while the other is in play. Then when you have used up the cards being played and it is time for what would otherwise be a hand shuffle, the dealer takes out the already shuffled cards and inserts the just finished played cards into the shuffler and play resumes with the freshly shuffled deck.....no or less down time for shuffling.

[Rob.Singer]

And therein lies even more proof of kew being a pathological compulsive liar rather than a "selective" liar. He's compelled to make up shit on just about everything in order to think he sounds legit, while occasionally sprinkling in little tidbits of modesty in order to reign folks like MrV into their web of deceit.

V, when someone lies as much as kew has about his fabrication....you have to know something's up. He simply can't help himself when he does these things. And his intention was NEVER to come on and admit he lied--he would have carried through with his horseshit right on thru to then end if we were all as stupid as him. That is not being a selective liar. And how in the world could you believe he's some "successful BJ pro" when the subject is as delusional, incompetent, and as brainless as him? You are way too kind.

[smurgerburger]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it has never been illegal to own a card shuffling machine.

[kewlJ]

The guy who posted the pictures below is telling us the difference between compulsive liar and selective liar. Which are these pictures pretending you own an RV at the dealership? I wonder if I can make this picture my new signature?

[kewlJ]

Seems kind of bulky for a signature, but I will give it a go and see how I like it.

[kewlJ]

You know what this picture seems like? It seems like when you take a little kid to the fire station and he puts on the fireman's hat and sits in the drivers seat of the firetruck.

[kewlJ]

I picture an employee just off camera saying "feet off the bed".

[accountinquestion]

Damn Straight that I didn't post a picture. I was illegal to possess that machine, at least at that time.

It was me that hired the programmer. It was a guy who knew nothing about any kind of shuffle machines. After fiddling with it for 10-15 minutes, he said Ok, I think I got it. It then took him about 45 second to access the mode required to do what I suspected and would be illegal.

When you make comments about "spitting out cards", I think you are still thinking of CSM (continuous shuffle machines). I am talking about ASM (automatic shuffle machines. These machine work by shuffling one set of cards while the other is in play. Then when you have used up the cards being played and it is time for what would otherwise be a hand shuffle, the dealer takes out the already shuffled cards and inserts the just finished played cards into the shuffler and play resumes with the freshly shuffled deck.....no or less down time for shuffling.

First off the machine is NOT going to have a cheat mode already programmed into it. That would just be ASKING for shufflemaster to be sued or something else. This would NEVER be a secret that could be kept.

A programmer would not be able to figure out something in 15 minutes.. such absurdity. That is one world i have a good amount of experience in although I can't do that stuff. It would take reprogramming the EEPROM or whatever it is called.

OMG dude you are such a fucking liar. Amazing.

No, you said you sold it to some high-level AP took it apart and this and that but now you're saying YOU hired a programmer who figured it out in 15 minutes. SUCH UTTER FUCKING BULLSHIT.

*NO ONE* reverse engineers things so quickly. NO ONE. There is 0.00000 chance of the manufacturer having these modes baked in it ready to do. If someone could figure it out in 15 minutes this means the capability was already there.

AGAIN 0 chance. THat would DESTROY the company's rep. Opening them up to lawsuits and meaning casinos would have to get rid of all their shufflers just because of the outcry.

You are such a fucking compulsive liar. Jesus dude. It doesn't stop.

Bombard the thread with pictures of Singer... lol.. oh man. Yea thats going to help.

PS - I said spit out the cards because you made it sound like there is something the "high-level AP" would be able to determine by "taking it apart". What would that be? It'd need to be some physical aspect of the machine. Otherwise it is just software and anyone with a high IQ and experience in table games could enumerate (most of) the methods with which the machine could cheat you. Taking it apart has 0 value. This is why I referenced "spitting out the cards" because it is one of the few things it could possibly do different that could be gleamed by taking it apart. Anyway, that is a minor detail. I'll give you a pass on that one.

[accountinquestion]

The guy who posted the pictures below is telling us the difference between compulsive liar and selective liar. Which are these pictures pretending you own an RV at the dealership? I wonder if I can make this picture my new signature?

Rob didn't keep going on and on into infinite stories to defend himself.

He was amusing.

No one could possibly be harmed by his crazy stories.

You just can't and won't stop. You are a machine of lying.

[MaxPen]

Here, I fixed it. I don't have anything to do it with but adding a pile of prop cash would be perfection.

Seek help KewlJ.

[Treeshade]

whether 3 table counting, back rooming, or the rigged shufflers in the El Cortez.

You haters bring up counting 3 tables at once is a perfect example of your dishonesty. I have probably attempted to count 3 tables 3 or 4 times in my life. It would need to be a perfect situation where you are playing one table, and the tables on each side are both starting a new shoe (after the shuffle) at the same time. And then you could do it for probably 1 round, 2 at the absolute most before you would drop the lowest count and continue counting 2 tables until one showed to be a better opportunity.

I just don't know why there is so much skepticism on THIS forum about counting two tables, when conditions are right. I guess because there are only a few real blackjack players here. But you talk to a dozen real blackjack players especially that played 10 years ago and most likely a couple have tracked a second table while playing one at some point. It is the same concept as the spotter, big player call in approach used by Uston and the MIT teams (and most teams), except the player is playing both rolls.

And yes, conditions had to be just right. And now with all the variant type blackjack and poker games, and far less traditional blackjack tables, this opportunity has all but disappeared. You need a casino with a large pit that will have several blackjack tables open next to each other and still not be too crowded and that doesn't happen often. If it is not crowded, they don't need multiple regular blackjack tables open. I think that last 3 or 4 times I have been able to do this and it hasn't been recently, have all been at the same place....one of my favorites....South Point.

And the shuffle machines. Not going to repeat all that crap, but simply, there is no question that shuffle machines can shuffle the cards back into sequential order. That is one of the features. So if they can do that, they have the ability to shuffle the cards into any order desired. I hope there is no argument about that. And once you accept that, then the only argument is the casinos would NEVER do this. Really? The casinos would NEVER do this?

Don’t forget he said he could suck his own cock , and that he never sold his gut hole for money lol

[tableplay]

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Thanks for posting.
I never saw this one.
Funny!

I'm currently in a world of hurt.
My wife went to her primary care physician and he referred her for a bunch of tests.
She won't listen to me so now she is going to let some guy shove a 5-foot camera up her ass and who knows what else.
Wouldn't matter so much if I didn't have to drive her to these places, wait in the offices, talk to the doctors and fill out all the paperwork.
Fuck My Life!

People think the doctors will save them and help them live forever.
If anyone would do the math, they would realize that statistically you don't gain any more time.
These doctors cannot save you.
You will die.
And many times the procedures or "medicines" speed up the process.
You want to change things?
Stop Smoking.
Stop Drinking Alcohol.
Stop Overeating and Change your Diet.
Exercise.
Move to a better environment with better air quality.
And it still will not matter.
You Are Going To Die.

Sure no problem. Hopefully these tests your wife is undertaking will all come out negative and that it is just a passing thing .

[Gottlob1]

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Thanks for posting.
I never saw this one.
Funny!

I'm currently in a world of hurt.
My wife went to her primary care physician and he referred her for a bunch of tests.
She won't listen to me so now she is going to let some guy shove a 5-foot camera up her ass and who knows what else.
Wouldn't matter so much if I didn't have to drive her to these places, wait in the offices, talk to the doctors and fill out all the paperwork.
Fuck My Life!

People think the doctors will save them and help them live forever.
If anyone would do the math, they would realize that statistically you don't gain any more time.
These doctors cannot save you.
You will die.
And many times the procedures or "medicines" speed up the process.
You want to change things?
Stop Smoking.
Stop Drinking Alcohol.
Stop Overeating and Change your Diet.
Exercise.
Move to a better environment with better air quality.
And it still will not matter.
You Are Going To Die.

Sure no problem. Hopefully these tests your wife is undertaking will all come out negative and that it is just a passing thing .

I don't normally comment on thus - don't think it belongs on public forums - but, for what it's worth, good luck, Monet. I've been down the same road, quite a bit, so, the thing to do is definitely not to worry about what hasn't happened.

[kewlJ]

My wife went to her primary care physician and he referred her for a bunch of tests.
She won't listen to me so now she is going to let some guy shove a 5-foot camera up her ass and who knows what else.
Wouldn't matter so much if I didn't have to drive her to these places, wait in the offices, talk to the doctors and fill out all the paperwork.
Fuck My Life!

I don't read most of Monet's post outside of the sports pick pages, so I didn't see this until i others mentioned it.

I am sorry to hear of this news. Unlike others here, I am a spiritual person and try to have a conversation with God everyday. I will make it a special point to include a prayer for both Monet and his wife and a great outcome during this time.

We live in an extraordinary time of medical and scientific advances. And you are right Monet, it will not change the inevitable outcome. 50, 60 years from now, we will surely all be gone. But these miracles in medicine can improve and extend our time here and time with loved ones. I encourage you and everyone to embrace that.