The Verdict Is?

[kewlJ]

I'm kinda thinking you are Magister on WOV.

Ok, I found and read the posts.

Seems this person had concerns or questions about 3 specific things. 1) Slot machine AP or beating slots, 2) Winning roulette or EvenBobs thread and 3) Mdawgs claim of 1-50 spread playing blackjack for 10 hours.

So I have no concerns about #1. Thanks to mickey and others I know slot machines can be beaten. I am not smart enough to understand how in most cases, I but I have no question that they can and are beaten regularly. So that one is out the window.

#2, Evenbobs thread and winning roulette claims. I have never said a word about Evenbob's claims or his silly roulette thread. I don't know if you are aware but before he drug his ass back to WoV to troll you guys with this current roulette thread and claims, he had the exact same thread and claims at Gambling Forums, posting as Spike. I never said a word there either and that is a forum I was participating at, at that time. Even Bob is playing you guys....no need to say anything AND I don't feel like he is hurting anyone. So your #2 is out the window.

So basically someone questions Mdawgs 1-50 spread playing double deck blackjack for 10 hours while winning $60K. Yes I have concerns and extreme doubts about that. I have said so here. So someone else questioned that and that means it is me? I would have thought a hundred people would have questioned that?

Believe it or not as bizarre and bullshit as that specific claim is, I am not more focused on the big picture involving Mdawgs claims rather than any one single session or days claims. What I mean by that is we are now 4 years into this. Over a million dollars claimed he won if you add it all up. And well over 1000 nights comped in high end suites. (probably over 1100 now). As bizarre as any single claim or reports is, this totality, just screems crazy.

Your guy magister didn't even get into that, as I certainly would have. So I think you saw a guy questioning 3 things, 2 that I have no concerns or interest in and you immediately jumped to me. I think you probably just jumped all over a new members who questioned a $100 - $5000 spread at double deck blackjack. But I don't care about WoV. Drive em all way.

[MDawg]

Whenever this guy gives a long convoluted explanation for why he must be telling the truth...you may bet that he's lying again.

It gives a normal person a headache just to imagine the twisted thought process.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew must be having a FABULOUS time surfing, swimming, and playing "footsie in the sand" with baby bro! I mean, who else blabs about going on a vacation (even though he wasn't able to convincingly lie about the time he left) then spends continuous nervous-poodle effort frantically reading and re-reading posts just to see how brutal a beat down he's getting--and concocts even more of his crazy "hey guys! let's set the record straight" rambling essays.....

Here's a life fact for kew: if you're telling the truth about your BJ play, YOU WOULD NEVER NEED TO KEEP WRITING SO MANY POSTS TRYING TO CONVINCE OTHERS OF YOUR PROWESS----ESPECIALLY IF YOU SIMULTANEOUSLY ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE OTHERS YOU'RE ON A BEACH VACATION CHECKING OUT ALL THE GIRLS SOMEWHERE!

You may use this post as another teachable moment, because it seems you never listen.

Tell us where you are, and we'll have a twin-pack of Brioschi "hand delivered" to your door.

[kewlJ]

who else blabs about going on a vacation

Who else? How about Rob Singer, who is supposedly 'summering' in Lake Tahoe. Or MDawg who currently is on an extended Las Vegas Trip.

Who else indeed.

[Gottlob1]

A perfect example is this thread started by Blackhole. Blackhole, you will remember isn't just a KJ haters, but an AP hater. In this case he started this thread to throw everything he could think of at me and I answered all his concerns reasonably, backed by the math when applicable and even shared some of the things I do or id that allowed for the longevity that I had.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ts-or-Bullshit

Funny how people were jumping all over poor, old Blackhole. Ha.

I decided to create a thread showing some of the bullshit Kewlj claims here.

The problem with retards is their inability to recognize that they are retarded. Blackhole is the most retarded poster VCT has ever seen.

This Blackhole guy has to be the biggest bitter asshole in the world. And that’s saying something coming from me.

Blackhole, go back to talking about fucking sheep or something else you have experience with. Because you know absolutely fuck all about counting and are too fucking stupid to approach even a reasonable dispute of his numbers. Your argument is "I'm a broke cunt who can't comprehend people betting $10 a hand let alone $450."

In these last days, Blackhole can only find joy in bringing annoyance and irritation to others. It’s really all he has. I don’t need to know his situation to come to this conclusion as his posting tone alone makes it obvious.

You should pity Blackhole, as I do. I feel sorry for him. That you feel the need to defend yourself against any except the absolute most vile or baseless accusations is borderline incomprehensible to me. He called you a liar, so what?

Why should you care what his opinion is? It would be like me worrying about what a blind dog that’s going to die of old age any day thinks of me. A mean blind dog, at that. You try to feed him or scratch him and he tries to take your hand off.

Whatever happened to lead you to this state, Blackhole, I’m truly sorry.

Poor son of a bitch.

A blind dog? What a stupid fucking analogy

Even Crimm got into the act ...

I spend more on breakfast than you draw in SS. But good one, Blackhoser. Damn you're funny.

For the record Mickey, it appears your postings and their content have plunged to the level and unimportance level of the sites own constantly clouded pot head MisterV.

Your posts are not only late to every thread like tag-along or better known as after-birth, the comments and content appear to be suddenly coming from the twilight zone.

Not sure what happened to your level-headed well rounded conversations.

Just a heads up.

I made one post so far and was called retarded, liar, exaggerate, change facts, take things out of context, cherry picker, spin things, bitter, asshole, on meds, can’t shit right, angry, distort, moron, stupid, cunt mouth, broke.

Man, this is going to be more fun than I thought. I even got Bozo to wake up out of his phony posting comma. Like they say, “... the best is yet to come.”

[Rob.Singer]

who else blabs about going on a vacation

Who else? How about Rob Singer, who is supposedly 'summering' in Lake Tahoe. Or MDawg who currently is on an extended Las Vegas Trip.

Who else indeed.

Only YOU'RE the one getting a beat down....from EVERYBODY! And that's exactly how you spend endless hours of your virtual reality life trying NOT to be subjected to....Magistrate

The compulsive lying continues on.....

[AxelWolf]

I'm certainly not on a witch hunt. I'm just saying what I know. I don't know what you bet. I'm certain I couldn't pick you out of a lineup.

It doesn't really matter to me what limits you play, where you play, it doesn't matter to me how much or how you make your money. It doesn't matter to me if the backroom stuff is legitimate or not. I do/did find some things odd regarding your BJ stuff, but it's pointless to even talk about it all again. I'm kinda thinking you are Magister on WOV.

You're as bad as kewlJ.
Constantly telling us how you aren't going to post anymore but keep on posting.
You went through your whole 2 years of preaching about Masking Up and Vaccines.
You're so Phony!

You miss me again? You must have missed my previous post to you a few days back.(?) Perhaps you just ignored the truth. I suggest you go back and read/reread it sweetie. I was very disappointed you didn't respond, I even checked in just to hear you admit I am right and perhaps even kiss and make-up.

Now, where the fuck did I ever say, I wasn't going to post anymore? I doubt I said that. But even if I did, please give me examples of it being Constantly.

Go see a doctor man, you are definitely losing it.

[AxelWolf]

I do/did find some things odd regarding your BJ stuff, but it's pointless to even talk about it all again. I'm kinda thinking you are Magister on WOV.

The what limit I play crap only matters because it is part of a continuing attempt to discredit me. I would assume some people have seen me, seen me play and even played at the same table as me over the years. So it didn't surprise me that MaxPen said he saw me. But in all that time that he thought he saw me he never said a word about the person he thought was me playing lower stakes. If he had, I would have told him years ago that he had the wrong guy. That he is NOW bringing it up, when everyone is trying to discredit me, including the guy claiming prostitute shit, seems disingenuous to me.

If you or anyone had questions about anything I shared regarding my blackjack play, you should have asked. I have always been willing to answer any questions or explain any confusion about what I do or what I have said. A perfect example is this thread started by Blackhole. Blackhole, you will remember isn't just a KJ haters, but an AP hater. In this case he started this thread to throw everything he could think of at me and I answered all his concerns reasonably, backed by the math when applicable and even shared some of the things I do or id that allowed for the longevity that I had. It's a good read actually I think, although I may have ended up sharing some things (especially cover type shit) that I would have been better not to have shared. But my point is, if you had any questions or found anything "odd, you should have spoken up. I have always been willing to discuss shit.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ts-or-Bullshit

I have asked and you responded. I still found it odd. The fact that you went soo many years counting at those levels unmolested (no 86) was odd to me. I don't care if you know every shift change, dealer, tolerance level, cock size, and have your own surveillance team. You can't control unknown circumstances if you spend enough time in the casinos APing for that many years, multiple unexpected things are going to pop up. For instance: I was detained simply because I looked like someone who stole some old lady's bucket of quarters. Had that lady confirmed I was the person, I probably would've gone to jail.

Dealers, management, etc move from place to place, bosses change shifts, and people call in sick causing an unknown situation. Regulars get pissed off, jealous, and envious and turn card counters in. A wanted cheat sits next to you. Who knows. There are just too many unknown undesirable variables that could lead to issues leading to 86ings. There's been more things but I don't remember exactly what. The fact that the forums have been a serious net negative to you and your career and yet you are still here is very odd for a successful card counter at your level. Early on, you claim got Robbed at gunpoint which you suspected was due to posting on the forums. That should have been GG goodbye forums. Do you know who would return to forums after that? Someone batshit crazy or someone not telling the truth.

[AxelWolf]

KJ: Say this over and over again to yourself.

I had to fake my own death so I could continue to post on gambling forums.
I had to fake my own death so I could continue to post on gambling forums.
I had to fake my own death so I could continue to post on gambling forums.
I had to fake my own death so I could continue to post on gambling forums.
I had to fake my own death so I could continue to post on gambling forums.
I had to fake my own death so I could continue to post on gambling forums.

[AxelWolf]

KJ: Say this over and over again to yourself.

I was Robbed at gunpoint as a possible direct result of posting on gambling forums.
I was Robbed at gunpoint as a possible direct result of posting on gambling forums.
I was Robbed at gunpoint as a possible direct result of posting on gambling forums.
I was Robbed at gunpoint as a possible direct result of posting on gambling forums.

[AxelWolf]

KJ: Say this over and over again to yourself.
I have had multiple intense battles with people on gaming forums, some leading to my permanent banning with multiple hours spent trying to get unbanned.
I have had multiple intense battles with people on gaming forums, some leading to my permanent banning with multiple hours spent trying to get unbanned.
I have had multiple intense battles with people on gaming forums, some leading to my permanent banning with multiple hours spent trying to get unbanned.
I have had multiple intense battles with people on gaming forums, some leading to my permanent banning with multiple hours spent trying to get unbanned.

[AxelWolf]

KJ: Say this over and over again to yourself.
I have had fights and issues with just about every prominent member of the gambling forums wasting hours of my time.
I have had fights and issues with just about every prominent member of the gambling forums wasting hours of my time.
I have had fights and issues with just about every prominent member of the gambling forums wasting hours of my time.
I have had fights and issues with just about every prominent member of the gambling forums wasting hours of my time.

[AxelWolf]

KJ: Say this over and over again to yourself.
I had a gambling forum member show up at my house looking for me to do possible harm.
I had a gambling forum member show up at my house looking for me to do possible harm.
I had a gambling forum member show up at my house looking for me to do possible harm.
I had a gambling forum member show up at my house looking for me to do possible harm.
I had a gambling forum member show up at my house looking for me to do possible harm.

[AxelWolf]

This is just getting started, there's so so many negative things. But, IGTG now.

[Ray Finkle]

What do you oil them with?

Surfboard oils and waxes are available in every surf shop. Back in my day, most oils were made with or contained coconut oil. I don't think there was anything special about coconut oil, other than it made the consistency of the oil a little thicker (about the consistency of sun tan lotion) which made the application better. I had a couple friends that would just use regular vegetable oil and claimed it worked just as well.

You apply a coating of oil and really let it soak in for several hours. This keeps the board from drying out and cracking. Then you apply a coat or several thin coats of surfboard wax. The wax locks the oils in, but that is not the main purpose. The wax actually provides a better grip or traction. I know it sounds like it would be the opposite, but it isn't.

You really should strip off the wax and re-apply oil and wax ever 6 weeks or so. But a lot of guys get lazy and just apply more wax when the board starts to become slippery.

Come on Ray, you played for the Dolphins....you didn't go surfing in Miami?

Wow. Sounds like you know a lot about it.
Pretty impressive...

Or not.

Thing is, you write this like you know what you're talking about. Like you're an authority on it.
Sorry man. You haven't a clue.
Sure, you can go online and find kook sites telling you to do that. But c'mon, you can find sites telling you flat betting, or no bust strategy is the way to beat BJ.

No. You don't oil a board. That's pretty much the goofiest thing I've ever heard.

How the hell would I know?

Started surfing in 1970.

Lived on The Strand here in Oside for over twenty years. Still live less than two miles away.

Owned a surf shop for a decade.

Know most all the shapers, hot coaters, sanders, fin setters, ding repairers, pros, etc. In town.

And no one I know has ever applied oil to their boards. How would you even hold the rails duck diving?

That's the problem with grabbing shit off the web to use as your own.

Makes me wonder about some of the other "authoritative" posts you've made here.

[kewlJ]

1970's hun? I have no idea how things were in the 1970's. Were you using the tops of wooden crates to surf back then?

!n the late 1990's when I was surfing we used oil to keep the board moist and keep it from drying out. Contant exposure to salt water can damage a board and shorten the life span. Coconut oil, was one of the better products.

Now admittedly, I have not been a surf enthusiast since 1999, when I was 17. So I thought maybe using coconut oil was no longer a thing. So I just googled oiling your surf board and the very first two things that came up were:

What Do You Need to Clean a Surfboard?
Like I stated earlier, the procedure for cleaning your surfboard isn’t very difficult. Consequently, you do not need many or complicated tools. The things you need include:

Wax comb – comes with two sides (serrated and flat sides).
A clean cloth.
A towel for drying.
Coconut oil.
Special surfboard cleaner or wax removal liquid (optional).


and

How To Clean A Surfboard | 5 Effective Ways
https://surfhungry.com/how-to-clean-a-surfboard
Effective cleaning starts with the right tools. The basic supplies you should have for this task include: 1. Hairdryer 2. Wax comb with a sharp end 3. Warm water 4. Cloth 5. Surfboard cleaning spray 6. Coconut oil 7. Towel See more


But please tell us more about the 1970's ray Fickle. Maybe tell us how you listened to the AM stations on a transistor radio.

[kewlJ]

I have asked and you responded. I still found it odd. The fact that you went soo many years counting at those levels unmolested (no 86) was odd to me.

Axelwolf, you are making shit up. I did not play unmolested. I was backed off between 50 and 70 times since I moved to Vegas 13 years ago. I didn't keep records of backoffs, so can't give an exact number, but if I think about it year over year, it is probably closer to 70 times. That is an average of 5 or 6 a year and THAT is not playing unmolested. The reason that number is not larger is because I worked at not getting backed off. I had never been 86ed until this year, but I did have several close calls, where I weaved my way out of the casino avoiding security.

And my playing with minimal backoffs and things was NOT by accident. I worked at that and when I did experience a backoff, I would exit as quickly and quietly as possible. I didn't stand there and argue or try to talk my way out of anything.

But from your posts that followed, repeating shit like you are Bart Simpson, I can see you have decided to embrace trolling me as well. So whatever. It is pretty apparent the membership of this forum, now wants to run me off the forum, so go ahead. That is why this forum has 10-12 active members, half who are trolls. And that number is declining NOT growing. This forum is well on its way to being Gamblers Glen at the end, with 4 members.

[Ray Finkle]

Yes. 1970.

Still surf daily.

Yes, that's a kook site you linked too.

I just found this on Google.

No bust blackjack is a popular and easy-to-use betting strategy that can make the experience more enjoyable. It basically eliminates the risk of busting when playing 21. With the no bust blackjack system, you are letting the dealer bust instead.

Does that make it true?

But hey, I'm sure you know more about it. Just like everything. Carry on

[kewlJ]

Yes. 1970.

Still surf daily.

Yes, that's a kook site you linked too.

I just found this on Google.

No bust blackjack is a popular and easy-to-use betting strategy that can make the experience more enjoyable. It basically eliminates the risk of busting when playing 21. With the no bust blackjack system, you are letting the dealer bust instead.

Does that make it true?

But hey, I'm sure you know more about it. Just like everything. Carry on

Jesus Christ Ray Finckle! Where? Where did I ever say I was some kind of surfboarding expert or "knew everything" or "more about it"?

I grew up in Volusia County Florida about 5 miles inland from Dayton Beach. During my teens I spent a great deal of time surfing. That is what me and my friends did. I think I have now been on a surfboard twice since I was 17. Not claiming to be an expert on anything or have any idea what has and hasn't changed. I just shared some experiences from when I was a teen 25 years ago.

[kewlJ]

This whole deal has now turned into some kind of which hunt where I am demonized and being run off the forum.

Yes, I lied about the court case part of my backrooming and settlement, hoping to make this whole discussion go away before some info about me came out. That actually ignited more discussion. MaxPen proved that I lied about the court case. And I admitted it. THAT is all that has changed. Now people are coming out of the woodwork, saying "I saw him playing low limits", and He has played "unmolested" when I haven't, and this and that. And of course the sick male prostitute stuff from the trolls. Except now some of the normal people including AP are embracing the sick shit.

Singer has lied about 100 times in the few years I have been here, and he is still welcome to post and is right here doing so. No one has run him off the forum.

Mdawg has obviously lied about individual claims like the 1-50 ($100-$5000 spread for 10 hours, winning $60k, as well has his whole adventure as a whole, now 4 years over a million dollars won and 1100 comped nights in a luxury suite. Owner Dan Druff weighed in saying Mdawg story and claims were not real. Druff called Mdawg a "whale" which in casino terms is a higher limit player that loses and gets good comps. Dan Druff went on to say, He doesn't have a clue why Mdawg lies about all the winning. Almost the exact arguments I have made. And yet no one ran Mdawg off the forum. He chose to leave after an Druff comments, but no one ran him off and he too is right here posting and welcome to do so.

But for some reason, every one now wants to run me off the forum.