The Verdict Is?

[Ozzy]

I have asked and you responded. I still found it odd. The fact that you went soo many years counting at those levels unmolested (no 86) was odd to me.

Axelwolf, you are making shit up. I did not play unmolested. I was backed off between 50 and 70 times since I moved to Vegas 13 years ago. I didn't keep records of backoffs, so can't give an exact number, but if I think about it year over year, it is probably closer to 70 times. That is an average of 5 or 6 a year and THAT is not playing unmolested. The reason that number is not larger is because I worked at not getting backed off. I had never been 86ed until this year, but I did have several close calls, where I weaved my way out of the casino avoiding security.

And my playing with minimal backoffs and things was NOT by accident. I worked at that and when I did experience a backoff, I would exit as quickly and quietly as possible. I didn't stand there and argue or try to talk my way out of anything.

But from your posts that followed, repeating shit like you are Bart Simpson, I can see you have decided to embrace trolling me as well. So whatever. It is pretty apparent the membership of this forum, now wants to run me off the forum, so go ahead. That is why this forum has 10-12 active members, half who are trolls. And that number is declining NOT growing. This forum is well on its way to being Gamblers Glen at the end, with 4 members.

WRONG AGAIN KEW.! This forum is alive and well. We have a good blend of gritty vets, polished trolls, socks/dupes and up and coming future prospects!! Stop being such a negative Nancy all the time!

[Gottlob1]

But hey, I'm sure you know more about it. Just like everything. Carry on

POW! Knocked down yet again, KJ. It was sort of obvious, by Finkle's question, what was up.

But, nor does that nasty Ray Finkle know what he's talking about. Ha.

Up here, in Canada, we Cold Crank Start the MRV's (like KJ's), of the States, with a little bit different sort and degree of lubrication.

Hi, I have been told on this forum not to look only at the static viscosities to determine if the oil runs better at cold starts but more at the pumpability of the oil (dynamic viscositity) which, from what I undertsood, is demonstrated with the Cold Cranking Start (CCS) and Mini Rotary Viscometer (MRV) values. My problem is I have a hard time interpreting this value, therefore I need some help. For the CCS value, I read on the Amsoil website that for a determined viscosity, the oil has to stay below a defined value to be called 5w for example. In my understanding, that means that a lower value means a better oil for cold starts: Am I right? Unfortenately, I couldn't find any information on the MRV value, so is it the same as the CCS one? The lower the better. Last point to clarify my mind: Comparing two oils trying to find which one is better at cold starts (assuming that the "the lower the better" rule applies to both values), if one has a lower CCS value than the other but the higher MRV value, which one of the values is more important to make the choice? On this thread, I am only talking about the cold start characteristics of the oil, not the quality of the oil concerning engine wear, TBN retention, additive package, etc.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...-starts.92537/

Yes, lower is better for both for cold starts. CCS is for ease of cranking (the engine "turning" over). MRV is ease of pumping the oil. The limits on each have been developed to make sure the MRV limit is low enough that if the engine does turn over, it will definitely pump the oil; otherwise the engine may turn over, not pump enough oil and the engine possibly dies of lubrication starvation. I would not bother with making a judgement between two oils based on the one having a lower CCS but a higher MRV. But if you really want to, I think it is better to have a lower MRV from an oil flow standpoint while a lower CCS may allow less fuel consumption in the first few minutes of really cold starts.

[Gottlob1]

WRONG AGAIN KEW.! This forum is alive and well. We have a good blend of gritty vets, polished trolls, socks/dupes and up and coming future prospects!! Stop being such a negative Nancy all the time!

Wrong again, Ozzy! Time to ditch the Singer/MDawg/KJ/Max/Monet/Redietz/Crimm baloney sandwich, and, get back to the glory days of the Gambler's Glen, with the quirky, but fun, gambling systems. All we need now is the Gr8player, and the Johno, hey, hey, to get the old gang back together. Ha.

[Rob.Singer]

This whole deal has now turned into some kind of which hunt where I am demonized and being run off the forum.

Yes, I lied about the court case part of my backrooming and settlement, hoping to make this whole discussion go away before some info about me came out. That actually ignited more discussion. MaxPen proved that I lied about the court case. And I admitted it. THAT is all that has changed. Now people are coming out of the woodwork, saying "I saw him playing low limits", and He has played "unmolested" when I haven't, and this and that. And of course the sick male prostitute stuff from the trolls. Except now some of the normal people including AP are embracing the sick shit.

Singer has lied about 100 times in the few years I have been here, and he is still welcome to post and is right here doing so. No one has run him off the forum.

Mdawg has obviously lied about individual claims like the 1-50 ($100-$5000 spread for 10 hours, winning $60k, as well has his whole adventure as a whole, now 4 years over a million dollars won and 1100 comped nights in a luxury suite. Owner Dan Druff weighed in saying Mdawg story and claims were not real. Druff called Mdawg a "whale" which in casino terms is a higher limit player that loses and gets good comps. Dan Druff went on to say, He doesn't have a clue why Mdawg lies about all the winning. Almost the exact arguments I have made. And yet no one ran Mdawg off the forum. He chose to leave after an Druff comments, but no one ran him off and he too is right here posting and welcome to do so.

But for some reason, every one now wants to run me off the forum.

You are beginning to see the end.

You only fight with everyone because they don't see things your way. Anyone who list facts that show you're strange and/or dishonest is "on a witch hunt". You're a product of a lazy, spoiled generation that has to make things up to account for their many glaring flaws.

And who the hell is ever gonna believe a guy who HAS to be believed, after the shit you just pulled!?

That's why nobody believes you're on some beach "surfing". You got caught lying about the time you SUPPOSEDLY left, and you got caught lying about oiling surf boards. And all those blackjack claims....just more nails for the coffin.

I know it's too late but, wise up.

[accountinquestion]

1970's hun? I have no idea how things were in the 1970's. Were you using the tops of wooden crates to surf back then?

!n the late 1990's when I was surfing we used oil to keep the board moist and keep it from drying out. Contant exposure to salt water can damage a board and shorten the life span. Coconut oil, was one of the better products.

Now admittedly, I have not been a surf enthusiast since 1999, when I was 17. So I thought maybe using coconut oil was no longer a thing. So I just googled oiling your surf board and the very first two things that came up were:

What Do You Need to Clean a Surfboard?
Like I stated earlier, the procedure for cleaning your surfboard isn’t very difficult. Consequently, you do not need many or complicated tools. The things you need include:

Wax comb – comes with two sides (serrated and flat sides).
A clean cloth.
A towel for drying.
Coconut oil.
Special surfboard cleaner or wax removal liquid (optional).


and

How To Clean A Surfboard | 5 Effective Ways
https://surfhungry.com/how-to-clean-a-surfboard
Effective cleaning starts with the right tools. The basic supplies you should have for this task include: 1. Hairdryer 2. Wax comb with a sharp end 3. Warm water 4. Cloth 5. Surfboard cleaning spray 6. Coconut oil 7. Towel See more


But please tell us more about the 1970's ray Fickle. Maybe tell us how you listened to the AM stations on a transistor radio.

This site had a weird look. Very much like a content mill. In fact they are a "partner" with Raptive media.

What does that mean? They make a TON of content that is almost never made by experts. It is just fluff to game google.

[accountinquestion]

I have asked and you responded. I still found it odd. The fact that you went soo many years counting at those levels unmolested (no 86) was odd to me.

Axelwolf, you are making shit up. I did not play unmolested. I was backed off between 50 and 70 times since I moved to Vegas 13 years ago. I didn't keep records of backoffs, so can't give an exact number, but if I think about it year over year, it is probably closer to 70 times. That is an average of 5 or 6 a year and THAT is not playing unmolested. The reason that number is not larger is because I worked at not getting backed off. I had never been 86ed until this year, but I did have several close calls, where I weaved my way out of the casino avoiding security.

And my playing with minimal backoffs and things was NOT by accident. I worked at that and when I did experience a backoff, I would exit as quickly and quietly as possible. I didn't stand there and argue or try to talk my way out of anything.

But from your posts that followed, repeating shit like you are Bart Simpson, I can see you have decided to embrace trolling me as well. So whatever. It is pretty apparent the membership of this forum, now wants to run me off the forum, so go ahead. That is why this forum has 10-12 active members, half who are trolls. And that number is declining NOT growing. This forum is well on its way to being Gamblers Glen at the end, with 4 members.

I don't think the members here give a fuck. They're likely outcasts from other forums who wish to speak their mind. Or they appreciate the free speech aspect.

You should just buy this forum.. yea thats the ticket. Lets see it grow then. lol.

I've thought the whole BJ story sounded like bullshit too but at the end of the day it is not a world I know much about. Then Kewl came up with the "yea I've been backed off many times". I wonder when the first time he made that statement is or where else he has discussed being backed off.. That is, before he had to defend himself on here.

[accountinquestion]

This whole deal has now turned into some kind of which hunt where I am demonized and being run off the forum.

Yes, I lied about the court case part of my backrooming and settlement, hoping to make this whole discussion go away before some info about me came out. That actually ignited more discussion. MaxPen proved that I lied about the court case. And I admitted it. THAT is all that has changed. Now people are coming out of the woodwork, saying "I saw him playing low limits", and He has played "unmolested" when I haven't, and this and that. And of course the sick male prostitute stuff from the trolls. Except now some of the normal people including AP are embracing the sick shit.

Singer has lied about 100 times in the few years I have been here, and he is still welcome to post and is right here doing so. No one has run him off the forum.

Mdawg has obviously lied about individual claims like the 1-50 ($100-$5000 spread for 10 hours, winning $60k, as well has his whole adventure as a whole, now 4 years over a million dollars won and 1100 comped nights in a luxury suite. Owner Dan Druff weighed in saying Mdawg story and claims were not real. Druff called Mdawg a "whale" which in casino terms is a higher limit player that loses and gets good comps. Dan Druff went on to say, He doesn't have a clue why Mdawg lies about all the winning. Almost the exact arguments I have made. And yet no one ran Mdawg off the forum. He chose to leave after an Druff comments, but no one ran him off and he too is right here posting and welcome to do so.

But for some reason, every one now wants to run me off the forum.

You also lied about the shuffler. This whole I hired a programmer to make the shuffler cheat and he did it in 15 minutes. Doesn't matter if it was a full day - still total bullshit. Yet you are not bringing that up. Repeating, there is no way a 1 billion dollar company would have a backdoor in their shuffler that could be found in 15 minutes. This backdoor would effectively ruin their entire business. This makes 0 sense.

You likely lied to me about the whole thing. I repeated this as a truth from a good source before I started to have my own suspicions. These other guys have too much real APing to bother but I don't. I'm a recreational AP who knows quite a bit.

Anyway this is actually worse than Mdawg or Singer because actual APs might believe your shit.

I'm doing something no different than what you have been doing to Singer and Mdawg.

Show me how I'm wrong.

[MDawg]

What UNKewlyingJ does is study up on any topic at hand and then come back with what he read or heard. He's been doing this for years with his blackjack "story," tried the same with the lawsuit lie, and with anything else he has talked about. No real firsthand experience at anything - he also whines and pouts about how he thinks comps should work in Vegas, when he's never rated for better than a free hot dog.

It gives a normal person a headache just to imagine the twisted thought process.

Quite pathetic.

Also quite odd that he is supposedly in southern Cal to surf but instead of talking about how that's going he wants to keep talking about whether or not what he read somewhere about surf board maintenance is correct.

What makes no sense is, why someone who claimed to be hand-delivered a player's personal and casino win/loss records directly to his door by MGM "Corporate Operatives" on Halloween evening, would ever have any issues whatsoever with someone doing any kind of "doxxing" of that dumb address at all.

It's a a bunch of BS. There is no one handing him anything. Just like no one told him my name. Just like no one is doxxing him. On and on and on. Etc. Etc

UNKewlyingJ was caught lying over a number of things including a claim that he was involved in a lawsuit for being backroomed and having his arm broken. He carried on for three long months describing the legal process in detail (getting it wrong again and again) until finally admitting that he had made up the whole lawsuit, but stubbornly clinging to the obvious lie that the incident had really happened but he had just lied about that there was any lawsuit around it.

Then it became clear that he had lied about six other major stories he had laid out over the past years, and in the midst of this he pretty much lost it and started trying to lash out at anyone who had called him onto the carpet, which includes the entire forum membership.

Like I said, it must be mental illness. You're a habitual liar incapable of facts. You just create whatever works in your mind at the moment. Really, the best thing for you to do is exit stage left. Your credibility is completely shot and unrecoverable....RIP

[AxelWolf]

I have asked and you responded. I still found it odd. The fact that you went soo many years counting at those levels unmolested (no 86) was odd to me.

Axelwolf, you are making shit up. I did not play unmolested. I was backed off between 50 and 70 times since I moved to Vegas 13 years ago. I didn't keep records of backoffs, so can't give an exact number, but if I think about it year over year, it is probably closer to 70 times. That is an average of 5 or 6 a year and THAT is not playing unmolested. The reason that number is not larger is because I worked at not getting backed off. I had never been 86ed until this year, but I did have several close calls, where I weaved my way out of the casino avoiding security.

And my playing with minimal backoffs and things was NOT by accident. I worked at that and when I did experience a backoff, I would exit as quickly and quietly as possible. I didn't stand there and argue or try to talk my way out of anything.

But from your posts that followed, repeating shit like you are Bart Simpson, I can see you have decided to embrace trolling me as well. So whatever. It is pretty apparent the membership of this forum, now wants to run me off the forum, so go ahead. That is why this forum has 10-12 active members, half who are trolls. And that number is declining NOT growing. This forum is well on its way to being Gamblers Glen at the end, with 4 members.

No I'm not making shit up, I clearly indicated unmolested as being 86ed. Go back and look, It's very very odd that you've gone that long without being 86ed no matter how careful, or smart you were. Backoffs are not the same as being molested.

[AxelWolf]

This whole deal has now turned into some kind of which hunt where I am demonized and being run off the forum.

Yes, I lied about the court case part of my backrooming and settlement, hoping to make this whole discussion go away before some info about me came out. That actually ignited more discussion. MaxPen proved that I lied about the court case. And I admitted it. THAT is all that has changed. Now people are coming out of the woodwork, saying "I saw him playing low limits", and He has played "unmolested" when I haven't, and this and that. And of course the sick male prostitute stuff from the trolls. Except now some of the normal people including AP are embracing the sick shit.

Singer has lied about 100 times in the few years I have been here, and he is still welcome to post and is right here doing so. No one has run him off the forum.

Mdawg has obviously lied about individual claims like the 1-50 ($100-$5000 spread for 10 hours, winning $60k, as well has his whole adventure as a whole, now 4 years over a million dollars won and 1100 comped nights in a luxury suite. Owner Dan Druff weighed in saying Mdawg story and claims were not real. Druff called Mdawg a "whale" which in casino terms is a higher limit player that loses and gets good comps. Dan Druff went on to say, He doesn't have a clue why Mdawg lies about all the winning. Almost the exact arguments I have made. And yet no one ran Mdawg off the forum. He chose to leave after an Druff comments, but no one ran him off and he too is right here posting and welcome to do so.

But for some reason, every one now wants to run me off the forum.

People have tried to run Singer off the forums probably more so than anyone else.

But here's the difference between you and Rob. Everyone knows exactly what to expect from Rob, everyone has their mind made up about Rob. RobSinger is a persona, a character. Part truths, part act, part troll, who really knows? Some stuff is so ridiculously obvious, that it seems to be done on purpose.

Most everyone believed your blackjack adventures to be honest and true. You were supposed to be the guy who simply made a humble and believable income counting cards. Nothing fancy, nothing grand, just an everybody's man. People expected more from you.

Do you understand how ridiculous it is to keep screaming, "But Rob lies, but Rob lies, But MDawg lies, but MDawg Doxes but look at them, they are worst than me. This thread is about YOU, not them. Given your personal views about them two do you really want to compare yourself to them?

[monet]

Wrong again, Ozzy! Time to ditch the Singer/MDawg/KJ/Max/Monet/Redietz/Crimm baloney sandwich, and, get back to the glory days of the Gambler's Glen, with the quirky, but fun, gambling systems. All we need now is the Gr8player, and the Johno, hey, hey, to get the old gang back together. Ha.

Not Nice lumping me in that sandwich.
Feeling Hurt!

[Rob.Singer]

This whole deal has now turned into some kind of which hunt where I am demonized and being run off the forum.

Yes, I lied about the court case part of my backrooming and settlement, hoping to make this whole discussion go away before some info about me came out. That actually ignited more discussion. MaxPen proved that I lied about the court case. And I admitted it. THAT is all that has changed. Now people are coming out of the woodwork, saying "I saw him playing low limits", and He has played "unmolested" when I haven't, and this and that. And of course the sick male prostitute stuff from the trolls. Except now some of the normal people including AP are embracing the sick shit.

Singer has lied about 100 times in the few years I have been here, and he is still welcome to post and is right here doing so. No one has run him off the forum.

Mdawg has obviously lied about individual claims like the 1-50 ($100-$5000 spread for 10 hours, winning $60k, as well has his whole adventure as a whole, now 4 years over a million dollars won and 1100 comped nights in a luxury suite. Owner Dan Druff weighed in saying Mdawg story and claims were not real. Druff called Mdawg a "whale" which in casino terms is a higher limit player that loses and gets good comps. Dan Druff went on to say, He doesn't have a clue why Mdawg lies about all the winning. Almost the exact arguments I have made. And yet no one ran Mdawg off the forum. He chose to leave after an Druff comments, but no one ran him off and he too is right here posting and welcome to do so.

But for some reason, every one now wants to run me off the forum.

People have tried to run Singer off the forums probably more so than anyone else.

But here's the difference between you and Rob. Everyone knows exactly what to expect from Rob, everyone has their mind made up about Rob. RobSinger is a persona, a character. Part truths, part act, part troll, who really knows? Some stuff is so ridiculously obvious, that it seems to be done on purpose.

Most everyone believed your blackjack adventures to be honest and true. You were supposed to be the guy who simply made a humble and believable income counting cards. Nothing fancy, nothing grand, just an everybody's man. People expected more from you.

Do you understand how ridiculous it is to keep screaming, "But Rob lies, but Rob lies, But MDawg lies, but MDawg Doxes but look at them, they are worst than me. This thread is about YOU, not them. Given your personal views about them two do you really want to compare yourself to them?

Me? I'm a lover--not a liar.
And I surf....DUDE!

[kewlJ]

Most everyone believed your blackjack adventures to be honest and true. You were supposed to be the guy who simply made a humble and believable income counting cards. Nothing fancy, nothing grand, just an everybody's man. People expected more from you.

None of that has changed. If people want to think or believe something has changed, that is their choice, just as it was their choice to believe or not believe what they want from the get go.

On an unrelated note, YOU are currently going at EvenBob , pretty much the same manner that I have with Singer and Mdawg. Everyone, including you knows what EvenBob is saying about Roulette is all made up. So why are you wasting all that time and energy (the same question I am always asked).

One possible answer is something Dan Druff said when he opined that Mdawg claims are not true. Druff said "I don't know why he makes up all that winning" and I do see how some AP's could be offended or find it irritating. That last part isn't quoted because I am not sure the exact wording but it was basically something like that.

[MDawg]

The bottom line is that UNKewlyingJ has nothing to offer other than "Look at me, I am telling the truth." But after countless times now having been proven to have lied, after having even admitted when cornered about some of his lies, he needs to offer more if he wants to be believed. And if he doesn't care whether he is believed or not, why does he cry so much about the fact that no one believes him any longer?

This guy created some kind of online persona, and tried to have to make sense. It made sense only because he took the time to research what he was claiming and tried to correlate his stories with what he had heard or read. Now, all of it is in question.

He failed to back up his nonsense, finally admitted that he had lied, and as a result:

Everything and anything he has ever said will come into question and years of his forum adventures in BJ and life will be labeled as fiction.

Mad Max at his best pulverizing the UNKOOL1 !!.

Wow.

I'm just going to assume that everything you say vis-a-vis your personal life, both previously and ongoing, is probably a lie.

But now for me anything what he said previous and anything he say going forwards is suspect!

Anways, how anyone can believe anything kewlJ posts is beyond me.
You would think she lost all street cred when she faked her own death.

KewlJ you're so busted.

You are so full of shit. Trying to divert things away from your history of lying just to create some warped concocted online gaming forum image of yourself is as cheap as the two-bit life you really lead and have been caught fabricating about.

Grow up.

Cats got to be way insecure to talk about himself so much on the internets hey hey.

No surprise you just make up shit with no basis. You've done this numerous times.

Grow up. Stop being such a loser.

What an epic forum beat down.

I don't think you'll ever give up your lying. It is too much ingrained in who you are. What I would suggest is you not do that shit around people who by and large are quite sharp.

[kewlJ]

Axelwolf, lets get back to this "no 86ing" thing.

My definition of 86ing is being trespassed or told you cannot come back to the casino. And I have now had exactly 1 (this year). I have had 50-70 backoffs (no more blackjack), and several incidents that I don't know what was intended because I got out the door before anyone got to me, to say anything.

I moved to Vegas and played for a decade plus, at a time that backrooming and 86 were on the decline. Polite backoffs were more the common practice, at least for someone playing my level and style (short sessions). I also spread my play around usually having about 30 casinos in my playing rotation at any given time. So I suppose someone playing higher limits, playing more aggressively (like a 1-50 spread ) and showing up at the same casino frequently causing a headache for the same pit folks on a regular bases, may have received more than just polite backoffs. I really don't know.

But none of what I did and how I played which drew less heat and was better tolerated was by mistake. It was all very carefully planned. Stanford Wong once said, it doesn't matter what count you play, or how great a player you are, if you aren't allowed to play anywhere. We have great players that were on some great teams that now can't play anywhere or find it very difficult to play. They write books or run "bootcamps". And I was coming off basically being run out of Atlantic City. So I carefully came up with a plan on how to be allowed to play and minimize all heat and countermeasures.

That plan involved short sessions, which reduces those bigger wins that someone (pit) has to answer for. You end up with smaller wins and losses which are better tolerated. The same with identifying which betting limits are better tolerated at different casinos and different times. This also results in smaller win and losses, meaning fewer times that someone (pit) has to answer for anything.

Then there is the large rotation of games usually around 30. These weren't 30 great games. If I played only the best games that would be 4 or 5 and I would be playing the same places over and over every day. This was exactly what I wanted to avoid. So I played many games that were what I called borderline "playable". Some other players probably would just consider them a waste of time. Just so I didn't create a problem for any pit person too frequently.

I also was able to figure out what casinos are sweaty or not and maybe more importantly which casinos participate and at what levels with the databases. Most casinos subscribe to at least one database (OSN the biggest in Vegas). Some subscribe to several. But at least half of them don't do much with that subscription. It is available, in the pit or surveillance for someone to look at. But they only look when there is a problem or reason to. Few casinos are what is called active contributors. Most just read. So knowing which casinos are more active and especially report different situation is HUGE. I doubt most card counters/AP make it their business to know this like I do. And I am fortunate enough to have a friend who alerts me, to database issues concerning me. This allows me to lay low or avoid the most dangerous casinos at the most dangerous times for me. This is also huge. I would doubt most players are fortunate to have this kind of help and arrangement.

Put it all together and yes, I have done really well at achieving my goal of longevity and being allowed to play. And that despite 50-70 backoffs. Backoffs happen! There is no way to avoid them. A backoff is some pit person being uncomfortable with your play at that particular moment. It could be that despite the measures put in place to keep wins and losses smaller, you happen to have a great session. (don't you just hate when THAT happens? ) So despite you best effort you have created a situation that draws heat. Or it could be some newer less tolerant pit critter you are not familiar with. Or it could be that you have just misread some pit person or the situation that day. You can't know everything, nor bat 1000. Backoffs will happen. And I have already said, when they do you leave. Quietly and quickly. Nothing good can come from arguing or trying to talk your way out. It only makes you more memorable.

So my not experiencing any 86ing until this year is by no mistake. EVERYTHING I do works toward that. It is why I have averaged 80k a year from blackjack instead of 150k for what every years I was able to play. I have the stakes to play bigger limits and make more money (for however long it was tolerated). I chose the milking approach. And have worked very hard to achieve what I have achieved. And I think I have even rather generously shared a lot of this information about what I do.

[kewlJ]

Just shut up Mdawg. I know you are so excited that the trolling and attacks are all directed at me right now and that many members of this forum have expressed that they don't like me and don't believe me. Both are their choice and their right. But that does nothing to make your ridiculous claims any more believable.

Even Dan Druff, a professional gambler, who certainly knows how to read people, has come out and in no uncertain terms stated that both you and Singer are bullshitting. With you he said "you are a 'whale' A losing higher stakes player that gets good comps". He added that "he has no idea why you insist on making up all the winning". And Druff doesn't say such thing too often.

I am sure Druff's opinion is what sent you running for the hills for several years. Druff's opinion also happens to be exactly what I have said from Day 1. Because I am pretty good at reading people too.

You are now just a troll. It is like you have given up any possibility of people really believing you or trying to explain anything, because there is no explanation. Much like Singer. You post ridiculous shit like this recent $100 to $5000 spread over 10 straight hours of play, and then just ignore anybody, not just me but anybody that challenges that ridiculousness. because you have no answer. There is no answer.

You are Rob Singer now. You really are. You don't even try to explain why someone might be wrong (because you can't). You just attack. Newsflash: That does NOTHING to add to or gain credibility for you. It just amuses some other haters and trolls and players that have decided they don't like me.

One more thing Mdawg" You wouldn't know a "bottom line" if it reared up and slapped you in your foreigner, sand nigger face.

[Gottlob1]

Wrong again, Ozzy! Time to ditch the Singer/MDawg/KJ/Max/Monet/Redietz/Crimm baloney sandwich, and, get back to the glory days of the Gambler's Glen, with the quirky, but fun, gambling systems. All we need now is the Gr8player, and the Johno, hey, hey, to get the old gang back together. Ha.

Not Nice lumping me in that sandwich. Feeling Hurt!

Oh, no! You, with your BIG parlays, would have fitted right in there at the Glen.

The Glen was a lot of fun without AP's per se. Yeah, the talk grew rougher, but, at least, there wasn't any of the Singer/MDawg/KJ baloney, which has little value, and holds little interest, to the others. I'd see KJ all over the internet, spreading that meaningless garbage. Who cares, anyway? To pick up a novice, for a few posts over a month? "Yeah, sure, I'm a card counter, but, the most basic form (so as not to have to get into even the math)."

If its owner hadn't died, without warning, to keep up the hosting fees, I'm sure it would still be going. Sports, baccarat, horses, a bit of everything well sectioned-out.


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Just shut up Mdawg. I know you are so excited that the trolling and attacks are all directed at me right now and that many members of this forum have expressed that they don't like me and don't believe me. Both are their choice and their right. But that does nothing to make your ridiculous claims any more believable.

Even Dan Druff, a professional gambler, who certainly knows how to read people, has come out and in no uncertain terms stated that both you and Singer are bullshitting. With you he said "you are a 'whale' A losing higher stakes player that gets good comps". He added that "he has no idea why you insist on making up all the winning". And Druff doesn't say such thing too often.

I am sure Druff's opinion is what sent you running for the hills for several years. Druff's opinion also happens to be exactly what I have said from Day 1. Because I am pretty good at reading people too.

You are now just a troll. It is like you have given up any possibility of people really believing you or trying to explain anything, because there is no explanation. Much like Singer. You post ridiculous shit like this recent $100 to $5000 spread over 10 straight hours of play, and then just ignore anybody, not just me but anybody that challenges that ridiculousness. because you have no answer. There is no answer.

You are Rob Singer now. You really are. You don't even try to explain why someone might be wrong (because you can't). You just attack. Newsflash: That does NOTHING to add to or gain credibility for you. It just amuses some other haters and trolls and players that have decided they don't like me.

One more thing Mdawg" You wouldn't know a "bottom line" if it reared up and slapped you in your foreigner, sand nigger face.

Don't ever claim victim status over being gay. You can't win so you resort to unimaginative racial slurs. This speaks directly to your character.

Now fess up the shuffler story was bullshit. I would give you a little shred of respect if you did. Or maybe I should just hound you like you do Mdawg?

Tbh singer is in his own category and let's face it, he is very talented with the trolling and Mdawg has far far more credibility at this point.

[Rob.Singer]

Just shut up Mdawg. I know you are so excited that the trolling and attacks are all directed at me right now and that many members of this forum have expressed that they don't like me and don't believe me. Both are their choice and their right. But that does nothing to make your ridiculous claims any more believable.

Even Dan Druff, a professional gambler, who certainly knows how to read people, has come out and in no uncertain terms stated that both you and Singer are bullshitting. With you he said "you are a 'whale' A losing higher stakes player that gets good comps". He added that "he has no idea why you insist on making up all the winning". And Druff doesn't say such thing too often.

I am sure Druff's opinion is what sent you running for the hills for several years. Druff's opinion also happens to be exactly what I have said from Day 1. Because I am pretty good at reading people too.

You are now just a troll. It is like you have given up any possibility of people really believing you or trying to explain anything, because there is no explanation. Much like Singer. You post ridiculous shit like this recent $100 to $5000 spread over 10 straight hours of play, and then just ignore anybody, not just me but anybody that challenges that ridiculousness. because you have no answer. There is no answer.

You are Rob Singer now. You really are. You don't even try to explain why someone might be wrong (because you can't). You just attack. Newsflash: That does NOTHING to add to or gain credibility for you. It just amuses some other haters and trolls and players that have decided they don't like me.

One more thing Mdawg" You wouldn't know a "bottom line" if it reared up and slapped you in your foreigner, sand nigger face.

Again, two long and rambling posts hysterically trying to set his self-demolished record straight.

Read my lips: There is no reason for anyone to believe that anything you say--now or ever--is anything other than fabrication.... through your own fault. So why do you bother trying so hard to convince people that anything you've ever said is "guaranteed truth"... especially when you're busy picking up girls in bikinis with your oily surfboard in hand?

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Don't ever claim victim status over being gay. You can't win so you resort to unimaginative racial slurs. This speaks directly to your character.

OMG dude. These guys, Singer and Mdawg and now seedvalue have done nothing but attack me in this way for YEARS, slurs and even slurs and attacks of my family, people that don't even participate here. I return fire once in a while and I am the bad guy.

and Mdawg has far far more credibility at this point.

If this is something you really believe, and not just you trying to troll me, then you are stupid. I don't believe you are stupid though. You are just trolling and playing games.

Mdawgs claims are that for 4 years he has played Vegas somewhere around 1100 days, won over a million dollars, and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites. That is basically the claim you are saying is credible and that you believe.

Now a closer look will reveal that at the beginning, Mdawg was talking about bacarát play. For the first year or two it was bacarát play. unable to answer how he was winning at some point after about a year, Mdawg switched to most of his play is blackjack double deck play. he did this for one reason only.... to get over "that defies Math" hump. Mdawg talks about card counting, talks about the high plus counts involved with card counting, so now yes... The math isn't an issue. The math works, but this is not the way Las Vegas or the casino industry works.

People here are now challenging me and the fact that I have managed to play, working very hard to do so, and yet here is a guy claiming he has played 1100 days, over 4 years, won 90% or them, won over a million dollars and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites and yet you, nor anyone else is saying a word. Not one of you guys is question why he isn't getting heat and backed off or 86ed. And that is because everyone knows this isn't the day it works and can't be true.

Come on man! Don't give me your shit about how he is credible. You are trolling me with that comment and nothing else.