shuffle machines

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Might be possible with this particular type of single deck machine. I think the simplicity of having just 1 card / slot is part of why. Still, the programmers themselves did not do it, just said it could be done. They only got as far (supposedly anyway) as using the machine's own camera to be able to see the order of the cards, not change them.

As far as a multi deck shuffler, different animal I assume.

In any case, this article doesn't make you other than still a liar with regards to the shuffling machine dispute you have or had ongoing with AccountInQuestion and the others. And that's why you brought it up, no?

I am not known for reading things closely and thoroughly but I didn't get that they accessed the cameras. Really that doesn't make sense unless the machines were made to stream video off the usb port but lets just agree that isn't possible. That is as likely as Kewl hiring a guy to crack it at all - let alone 15 minutes.

If that feature was not built-in (camera->usb) then they would have to change something in the code itself which they didn't do.

"I am not known for reading things closely and thoroughly." LOL. 'Nuff said.

Here's my issue with account on this topic. I am going to have lunch with a bunch of academics tomorrow who have some interest in this. They have seen this video and read some reports on the subject. They have some security and programming experience among them. Now, obviously, I don't know a damned thing about shuffle machines. One close friend of mine, however, has some casino managerial experience and can report on the history he's seen and how some abuses of the machines evaded security. There was actually a story involving the LV Hilton years ago regarding this very topic. So this person, who will be at the lunch, will know much, much more than me. But this person is still not an expert and is reporting some second-hand info.

Back to my problem with account. I would love to report what he's written here as if it has some expertise and gravitas behind it. But the only thing I'm expert in is sports betting, and account has declared (not just suggested) some really naive and uninformed stuff that profiles him as not knowing a goddamn thing about sports betting. The issue, to put it bluntly, is that he poses as if he knows what he's talking about. And it doesn't matter what the topic is. The only subject, unfortunately, at which I can evaluate what he says...he really is clueless. He's off badly on basic premises and knows zero about widely known history or what's been done for the last 30 years. I mean, really, account would be kicked out of any serious sports gambling tete-a-tete.

So who is more right on this -- account or kewlJ? I am not qualified to judge, but if you put a gun to my head, I'd have to pass on the guy who doesn't read things "carefully or thoroughly." That kind of slop-admittance won't fly at lunch tomorrow.

So of what value is what account says regarding this? I have no idea. This entire forum is a clown act in terms of figuring out who actually knows what they are talking about. But if anyone wants to fly in and add two cents worth, expert or not -- lunch will be Wok and Hibachi in Johnson City, TN tomorrow at noon. Be there or be square.