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    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    One of the reasons I have always stayed out of the MDawg drama for the most part is because of the possibilities as to what is really going on. Do you really think MDawg is dumb enough to spend years losing vast sums of money to the casinos? Even most high rollers wash out and never return in less than a year. If nothing else they lose everything and drop down in stakes if they are a degenerate. What makes one think MDawg is a degenerate?
    I will risk responding to you like a normal decent human being, instead of someone doing nothing but trolling me.

    When Mdawg first emerged and remember the whole great adventure was about baccarat, not blackjack. As a matter of fact he told us that he was banned from playing blackjack 10 years earlier.

    So anyway, I wasn't even at WoV, so I didn't have a chance to question him. When discussion started here, I said maybe he is doing something to have an advantage that he isn't telling us. Axelwolf actually asked this question multiple times at WoV. So when I was re-instated at WoV, and finally had a chance to comment directly to Mdawg, I asked that same question multiple times. So he was asked many times and at least one time he said "no". Most of the time he just didn't answer.

    Now, lets say he was doing something top secret that no one else knew about. You are an AP, MaxPen, how would you or any other AP or real winning player handle that? You wouldn't be blabbing about all the winning on forums. I can do that, because I am just counting cards. Nothing new. But no one in their right mind would be blabbing about winning while doing something top secret. That would just draw attention. Additionally, Mdawg started saying his voodoo comments like "betting into streaks" and somehow he was able to win because he has a large bankroll. That second comment is actually progressive wagering lingo and voodoo, which happens to be what many of us thought he was doing.

    So no, I don't believe he is doing anything that gives him an advantage. By the way there was one time that Axelwolf mentioned 'loss rebates' and Mdawg immediately jumped on that saying "yeah that is what I am doing....loss rebates" Well guess what? Loss rebates don't result in 50 winning sessions in a row, or even many winning sessions in a row. The advantage from loss rebates occurs when you lose as you well know.

    And finally, we all know enough about the Las Vegas casinos, to know they aren't comping someone high-end suites some 1200 nights over a 4 year period, including months and months in a row, including one 7 months period every single night, especially while they win millions over that time period as he claimed. It is just nonsense Maxpen. It is NOT the way Las Vegas or the casino industry works.

    And then he switched to primarily blackjack, the game he previously told us he was banned from for counting cards. He says he asked and they lifted the ban. Yeah, that is they way it works. "Please, I promise not to count cards again".

    I suspected, and Boz actually came out and said it, that the only reason he switched to blackjack was to try to top me, because he played higher stakes. But guess what, nothing he has said about blackjack is the way card counting works. NOTHING! To the point that even Mike called out his $100-$5000 spread, playing double deck, for 10 straight hours, and winning 60k. Any pit guy that allowed that would be collecting unemployment right now.

    What his story is somewhat consistent with is a progressive player, which cannot over come -EV and will still result in long-term losing. If you just realize he isn't telling us about the very big losing sessions that come with progression systems wiping away all the smaller win, then everything makes sense. Everything falls into place, including the comps and casinos tolerating his play.

    I probably have used the term "degenerate gambler" in referring to Mdawg. I tend to think of all long-term losing players as degenerate because they know they are going to lose and keep playing. But really there are recreational players that enjoy gambling and are ok with losing long-term. They are not really degenerates. Degenerates really should be reserved for people that lose every damn cent they have and can't pay rent, or can't eat at the end of the month until their next payday or gov check or whatever. So, No Mdawg is not a degenerate losing player. If I said that in the heat of moment, I was wrong. He is a wealthier guy that can afford to gamble and lose and likes the comps he gets for doing so.

    He isn't the greatest or the luckiest gambler ever, MaxPen, nor has he discovered that elusive holy grail that every -EV gambler has been searching for since the beginning of time. He is a guy writing a story. Hense all the "pope of Las Vegas" and all that crap.

    MaxPen, you are starting to make a habit of being wrong. It is NOT a good look for you.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 08-25-2023 at 06:21 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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