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  1. #1
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post

    Good stuff, good stuff.

    What about pre-season, any stats on pre-season?
    but I found a different one that has 2 years of data

    underdogs went 52-44 - 54% wins - a bet on all of these pre-season dogs would have realized a r.o.i. of 3.36%

    this year I tracked pre-season dogs as going 27-21


    I think it's a pretty fair statement to make that as far as the pre-season goes - the betting public really doesn't have a clue

    I don't even think they know what % of the game the teams will play their starters - and as far as predicting the performance of the 2nd string - no chance at all to do that effectively - forget about it

    and that is obviously not the case for later during the season


    there were some amusing results:


    week 1 Carolina was favored by 3 points over the Jets - they lost 27-0

    the 49ers were favored by 4 over the Raiders - they lost 34-7

    in week 2 the Texans were favored by 2 over the Marlins - they lost 28-3__________________(-:\

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    Last edited by Half Smoke; 08-28-2023 at 04:50 AM.
    the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him

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    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post

    Good stuff, good stuff.

    What about pre-season, any stats on pre-season?
    but I found a different one that has 2 years of data

    underdogs went 52-44 - 54% wins - a bet on all of these pre-season dogs would have realized a r.o.i. of 3.36%

    this year I tracked pre-season dogs as going 27-21


    there were some amusing results:


    week 1 Carolina was favored by 3 points over the Jets - they lost 27-0

    the 49ers were favored by 4 over the Raiders - they lost 34-7

    in week 2 the Texans were favored by 2 over the Marlins - they lost 28-3__________________(-:\

    .
    I was thinking about doing that method for preseason *facepalm

    I loaded up some sports accounts for 110%-150%+ bonuses(+ because they give you some other crap too) I just needed to get some action in. I said fuck it and just bet a bunch of overs for a few hundred each(I'm limited on pre-season games at one place) I think I went 1 and 7 or something like that, one returned my money for some reason LOL. I got it all back and then some on MMA. I enjoyed that because my wife enjoys watching MMA UFC and even some Boxing. She will watch football with some interest but doesn't enjoy watching an entire game. She did get into XFL a little.

    I then just took all the NFL dogs and a few overs. I haven't checked to see my results yet. I'm waiting for them to up my limits and decide what I want to do. I might try to get some B&M arbs off with bigger bets and lock up some profits. I just suck at looking for and finding that stuff. I do know someone who is very good at that.

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    P.S. I broke down and got ESPN+ With the Disney + and Hulu package. I got sick of dealing with crackstream and buffstream to watch certain things not on cable.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    but I found a different one that has 2 years of data

    underdogs went 52-44 - 54% wins - a bet on all of these pre-season dogs would have realized a r.o.i. of 3.36%

    this year I tracked pre-season dogs as going 27-21


    there were some amusing results:


    week 1 Carolina was favored by 3 points over the Jets - they lost 27-0

    the 49ers were favored by 4 over the Raiders - they lost 34-7

    in week 2 the Texans were favored by 2 over the Marlins - they lost 28-3__________________(-:\

    .
    I was thinking about doing that method for preseason *facepalm

    I loaded up some sports accounts for 110%-150%+ bonuses(+ because they give you some other crap too) I just needed to get some action in. I said fuck it and just bet a bunch of overs for a few hundred each(I'm limited on pre-season games at one place) I think I went 1 and 7 or something like that, one returned my money for some reason LOL. I got it all back and then some on MMA. I enjoyed that because my wife enjoys watching MMA UFC and even some Boxing. She will watch football with some interest but doesn't enjoy watching an entire game. She did get into XFL a little.

    I then just took all the NFL dogs and a few overs. I haven't checked to see my results yet. I'm waiting for them to up my limits and decide what I want to do. I might try to get some B&M arbs off with bigger bets and lock up some profits. I just suck at looking for and finding that stuff. I do know someone who is very good at that.


    still a chance for the first 2 weeks betting on the dogs thing - if it crashes it will be the first time in 11 years - iirc one year was a push - which means losing the vig



    from my post last year:


    "the faves did not have a winning record in even one single first 2 week period over the last 10 years

    the faves won 140 games and the dogs won 183 games ats - pushes were not considered

    in the first 2 weeks of the last 10 years the underdogs won 56.6% of the games ats which translates into a r.o.i. of about 8% for anyone who bet on all of the underdogs during that period"
    the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post


    this year I tracked pre-season dogs as going 27-21


    there were some amusing results:


    week 1 Carolina was favored by 3 points over the Jets - they lost 27-0

    the 49ers were favored by 4 over the Raiders - they lost 34-7

    in week 2 the Texans were favored by 2 over the Marlins - they lost 28-3__________________(-:\

    .
    I was thinking about doing that method for preseason *facepalm

    I loaded up some sports accounts for 110%-150%+ bonuses(+ because they give you some other crap too) I just needed to get some action in. I said fuck it and just bet a bunch of overs for a few hundred each(I'm limited on pre-season games at one place) I think I went 1 and 7 or something like that, one returned my money for some reason LOL. I got it all back and then some on MMA. I enjoyed that because my wife enjoys watching MMA UFC and even some Boxing. She will watch football with some interest but doesn't enjoy watching an entire game. She did get into XFL a little.

    I then just took all the NFL dogs and a few overs. I haven't checked to see my results yet. I'm waiting for them to up my limits and decide what I want to do. I might try to get some B&M arbs off with bigger bets and lock up some profits. I just suck at looking for and finding that stuff. I do know someone who is very good at that.


    still a chance for the first 2 weeks betting on the dogs thing - if it crashes it will be the first time in 11 years - iirc one year was a push - which means losing the vig



    from my post last year:


    "the faves did not have a winning record in even one single first 2 week period over the last 10 years

    the faves won 140 games and the dogs won 183 games ats - pushes were not considered

    in the first 2 weeks of the last 10 years the underdogs won 56.6% of the games ats which translates into a r.o.i. of about 8% for anyone who bet on all of the underdogs during that period"
    Facepalm, I didn't realize pre-season dogs were so strong. It's probably been noted(by you?) but I forgot.

    A push is good for me since it counts as action, I believe. I need to find out for sure that will come in handy in certain sports I believe, not really something I thought about until someone recently mentioned it.

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