kewlJ

[redietz]

KJ:

California rule 8.4(c):

"Rule 8.4 Misconduct(Rule Approved by the Supreme Court, Effective November 1, 2018)

It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:

(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud,* deceit, or reckless or intentional
misrepresentation"

source: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/...ry-Redline.pdf

Make of it what you will, I've no comment as to enforcement as I have never dealt with this particular issue; perhaps you could research it to see whether the California bar has had similar situations come before it, and what they've done about it.

1) I think counting cards as an income source has probably months versus decades left to it. The AI is just too good. All casinos have to do is require ID to play -- ends card counting.

I really liked the rest of your post and I wonder if you are correct.

As far as the above statement I think you're wrong. Well, you put in a significantly large margin "months versus decades"
I would be willing to bet card counting will last for 20 years before it ends in months. Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Requiring ID wouldn't end card counting, it would just weed out the weak, hinder some, and discourage newcomers. There's an untold amount of card counters running around with multiple fake ID's. Yes, there are systems in place that help verify if the person is real or not, but there are ways around that. Required rated play isn't going to stop card counters. Even being trespassed isn't going to stop card counters.
There are guys who keep going back to the same places over and over again even after they have been warned. AI would/could be circumvented.

The only way to logistically stop AP is to stop having +EV situations, or perhaps make it illegal across the board to play with an advantage.

C'mon, Axelwolf. If your phone can require a fingerprint or facial ID for activation, it's a short trip (as in around the block) to sitting down at a machine or table requiring the same.

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

You "APs" -- all presumption of your own expertise while figuring everyone else is a yahoo.

Multiple actual socials still get shut down by consistent fingerprinting or retinal scans. Dead in the water. I'm sure Native American casinos in the middle of Oklahoma won't invest in the tech, so good luck at The Golden Pony (mickey knows whereof I speak).

[MDawg]

I understand MDawg has crossed that line with KJ first, but KJ keeps antagonizing multiple people over and over.

That's not true at all.

What happened is that UNkewlJ started going all over the place at both this forum and at GF, in early to mid 2021, posting a name that he believed was MDawg. He got this name from Boz, the rat fink who claimed that he sent letters to the casinos

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ltiple-casinos

Boz, your CREEPY obsession with Mdawg is VERY disturbing.

and UNKewlJ jumped right on the band wagon and not only co-signed the action

I am fine with this action by Boz.

but also got the name Boz thought was MDawg from Boz and started doxxing MDawg with that name.

Hey, KJocchio, YOU doxxed MDawg. What did you think he was going to do? What comes around goes around. Quit sniveling about it.

Whatever the case with MaxPen, I guess that shows how much attention I pay. I can't imagine you doxxing MDawg helped; might have made Max wonder if you'd do the same to him should he ever get on your bad side.

Some time after that, UNKewlJ claims that at the other forum he saw at the very end of 2021, some post that stated that UNKewlJ lived at the Panorama Towers and The Martin on Dean Martin drive behind the strip. (A post that no one ever saw, not even me.) In complaining about the post, here:
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post137348
UNKewlJ doxxed himself and stated that he lived in those condos (which, we now know that he lied about the whole thing and doesn't even live there).

As well, when he claimed that someone had doxxed him at the very end of 2021, as proof he stated that following the doxxing his forum screenname "KewlJ" suddenly appeared in OSN:



but recently, when MaxPen vowed to search OSN for that screen name, UNKewLyingJ retracted the claim, because he knew that MaxPen was not going to find any OSN entry, which led to UNKewlJ's most recent statements of that he made up everything about himself and doesn't even have any heavyset deceased former "soul mate."

The lies are thick with this one.

But the fact remains that UNKewlJ was all over the place with his doxxing of MDawg well before even this probably made up doxxing (there is no record of such a post) occurred on the other forum.

UNKewlJ verifiably doxxed MDawg first, before this alleged doxxing occurred at the very end of 2021, which as noted, given that he lied about the "aka KewlJ" entry in OSN, he probably made up that he was ever doxxed anywhere at all.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ threatens this doxxing shit all the time. Most recently, when a watch was stolen in Vegas he claimed that he was going to post my name all over the place if I didn't admit that I was the victim. Just absurdity on top of absurdity from this guy, but...he is definitely a doxxer and there is no question that he doxxed MDawg even before he claimed that anyone doxxed him.

I will publicly make you this deal, Dog. If you come clean sooner rather than later, revealing that it was you.....no name, just that it was Mdog, I promise not to reveal a name or any other identifying info when I get it and I will!

In a sense you would still be protected from damage to your career, just not your forum persona. This offer has a time limit.

[tableplay]

Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Considering the fact that some casinos still offer coin slots in addition to TITOs (according to the interwebs Circus Circus in Las Vegas, Nevada has some for example in addition to their standard TITO inventory, same with El Cortel), this AI bet would be an easy bet for you to win if someone were foolish enough to bet the other side. The number of places that still offer coin-in/coin-out around the world as part of their inventory is probably significant. I'm not positive (heavily dated as I haven't been to that area in awhile), but I think the Carson Nugget may still offer coin Double Bonus Poker in addition to their TITO machines and I think Depot Diner in Fallon also still offers coin VP as part of their floor towards the front entrance. As far as places that are 100% coin-in still, I would think there are still some around, but I can't be 100% certain. Put another way, making a bet that AI would not be ubiquitous (you'd have to quantify that somehow) for card counter detection for at least 40 years would likely be a win if you and the loser were still around for you to collect the bet in that time frame.

[kewlJ]

I am not going to keep re-hashing this, but your account of this is not true. YOU doxxed me at truepassage forum, a forum you have some ownership or association with (I am not sure exactly). You used a sock puppet, but it was you! I know it was you because there was information in that doxxed post that I had provided to you when you were looking to purchase a home or condo and I was trying to be helpful to you. So stop with this shit that it wasn't you. It took a lawyer getting involved for this doxxed information to be redacted, not removed but redacted.

And then both you and the late person that posted as Moses reposted that doxxed information at gambling forums probably 50 times. Shortly after that one of my database entries was updated to include this information. And I know where that came from because there was a piece of information that you posted that was incorrect which showed up in the database. That served as a marker as to where it came from.

Now yes I responded by repeating information about you that was provided to me (not going to say who). You have flip-flopped as to whether this is actually you, first complaining to several administrators and now denying it, which one would expect.

Was my doxxing you in response to your doxxing me wrong? Probably. Doxxing is wrong. BUT you claim you are not an AP and not hiding from the casinos. You claim you play rated and they welcome you and your play. So my doxxing you cause no finacial issue for you. It just meant that people with the means to do so, could look at your claims for themselves and see they don't match casino records. And that is exactly what you became so pissed about. People that had connections and the ability could look for themselves and see the great adventure was not what was reported.

Meanwhile you doxxing me had financial consequences for me, an AP who makes a living with my casino play. I had to take significant time off and eventually change how and where I play.

So don't even compare the two. You are a guy telling a story, who was mad because people could look into your "story and see it wasn't true, while your actions resulted in direct finacial consequences to me.

These are the facts and I am not going to keep rehashing this. I am sorry your little story, whatever it was about fell apart. But I and other real players and APs have every right to challenge claims that defy the math and the way things work. You thinking you could tell this story on forums with real players was your stupidity, not mine.

[accountinquestion]

1) I think counting cards as an income source has probably months versus decades left to it. The AI is just too good. All casinos have to do is require ID to play -- ends card counting.

I really liked the rest of your post and I wonder if you are correct.

As far as the above statement I think you're wrong. Well, you put in a significantly large margin "months versus decades"
I would be willing to bet card counting will last for 20 years before it ends in months. Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Requiring ID wouldn't end card counting, it would just weed out the weak, hinder some, and discourage newcomers. There's an untold amount of card counters running around with multiple fake ID's. Yes, there are systems in place that help verify if the person is real or not, but there are ways around that. Required rated play isn't going to stop card counters. Even being trespassed isn't going to stop card counters.
There are guys who keep going back to the same places over and over again even after they have been warned. AI would/could be circumvented.

The only way to logistically stop AP is to stop having +EV situations, or perhaps make it illegal across the board to play with an advantage.

C'mon, Axelwolf. If your phone can require a fingerprint or facial ID for activation, it's a short trip (as in around the block) to sitting down at a machine or table requiring the same.

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

You "APs" -- all presumption of your own expertise while figuring everyone else is a yahoo.

Multiple actual socials still get shut down by consistent fingerprinting or retinal scans. Dead in the water. I'm sure Native American casinos in the middle of Oklahoma won't invest in the tech, so good luck at The Golden Pony (mickey knows whereof I speak).

Yea, a machine that requires people to give a fingerprint to lose their money versus someone CHOOSING to lock their phone via some biometric. LOL. REAL ANALAGOUS REDIETZ.

"Go ahead -- check me out." Another bullshit prove the negative.

You're just as full of shit as Kewlj.

Where did Stanford recommend Ivermectin?

[MDawg]

The simple fact that UNKewlJ doxxed first is of record.

There is no record of this claimed doxxing that only UNKewlJ saw and wrote about in January 2022, but if it did happen, it happened after UNKewlJ doxxed MDawg.

And, the "evidence" that it even happened was UNKewlJ's claim that "aka KewlJ" was listed in OSN so it must have come from this forum., a piece of "evidence" that UNKewlJ has since retracted.


This post made by MickeyCrimm 12/5/2021,

Hey, KJocchio, YOU doxxed MDawg. What did you think he was going to do? What comes around goes around. Quit sniveling about it.

refers to UNKewlJ's prior doxxing.


And, he's also back to the nonsense about how "it's okay for me to doxx people but it's not okay for them to doxx me."

[MaxPen]

1) I think counting cards as an income source has probably months versus decades left to it. The AI is just too good. All casinos have to do is require ID to play -- ends card counting.

I really liked the rest of your post and I wonder if you are correct.

As far as the above statement I think you're wrong. Well, you put in a significantly large margin "months versus decades"
I would be willing to bet card counting will last for 20 years before it ends in months. Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Requiring ID wouldn't end card counting, it would just weed out the weak, hinder some, and discourage newcomers. There's an untold amount of card counters running around with multiple fake ID's. Yes, there are systems in place that help verify if the person is real or not, but there are ways around that. Required rated play isn't going to stop card counters. Even being trespassed isn't going to stop card counters.
There are guys who keep going back to the same places over and over again even after they have been warned. AI would/could be circumvented.

The only way to logistically stop AP is to stop having +EV situations, or perhaps make it illegal across the board to play with an advantage.

C'mon, Axelwolf. If your phone can require a fingerprint or facial ID for activation, it's a short trip (as in around the block) to sitting down at a machine or table requiring the same.

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

You "APs" -- all presumption of your own expertise while figuring everyone else is a yahoo.

Multiple actual socials still get shut down by consistent fingerprinting or retinal scans. Dead in the water. I'm sure Native American casinos in the middle of Oklahoma won't invest in the tech, so good luck at The Golden Pony (mickey knows whereof I speak).

Wouldn't think a guy living in a Tennessee shack with unpaid property taxes would need all that. Must be a monk shoe addiction....RIP

[kewlJ]

The simple fact that UNKewlJ doxxed first is of record.

There is no record of this claimed doxxing that only UNKewlJ saw and wrote about in January 2022, but if it did happen, it happened after UNKewlJ doxxed MDawg.

And, the "evidence" that it even happened was UNKewlJ's claim that "aka KewlJ" was listed in OSN so it must have come from this forum., a piece of "evidence" that UNKewlJ has since retracted.


This post made by MickeyCrimm 12/5/2021,

Hey, KJocchio, YOU doxxed MDawg. What did you think he was going to do? What comes around goes around. Quit sniveling about it.

refers to UNKewlJ's prior doxxing.


And, he's also back to the nonsense about how "it's okay for me to doxx people but it's not okay for them to doxx me."

I am NOT going to keep rehashing this anymore. I don't care what quotes taken out of context you post.

Just look at how even more absurd your trolling has become in this matter with you claims that I am homeless and live in the tunnels, and that I am of Pacific Islander hertiage, which I have no idea what is about, as well as repeating this Male prostitute nonsense. . You are just full of shit dude. And all over a story you wanted to tell about being the greatest gambler ever.

So tell your little story. I don't care anymore. Anyone believing you are winning millions, while being comped 1200 nights over 4 years, deserves to be mislead. Anyone believing a player can play rated spreading $100-$5000 for 10 straight hours deserves to be mislead. Anyone believing any of your claims...50 winning hands in a row, any of them, that are for the purpose of telling some story about being the greatest gambler ever, deserves to be mislead and the consequences that come with that.

So do your thing. I dont care anymore. I am done with you, Bac79.

[MDawg]

Here's the doxxer even admitting that he doxxed first, piling on the same nonsense about how it is okay for him to doxx (but not for him to be doxxed):



The creepo states that he "doesn't consider what he did" to MDawg first as doxxing, simply because...why? lol It's okay to doxx someone who he decides is not a "professional player"? The guy is cracked.

Hey, KJocchio, YOU doxxed MDawg. What did you think he was going to do? What comes around goes around. Quit sniveling about it.

[kewlJ]

And so he continues....and all for the purpose of telling or writing some sort of silly story that he is the greatest gambler ever.

[MDawg]

Well, now that we have established that UNKewlJ lied about everything he has ever claimed is true, so...if he's a professional male prostitute versus a professional blackjack player, is it now okay to doxx him? By his logic, it is okay!

Getting the word out that he's available to hustle would only get him more clients!


Here comes another 10x multiplier response! (because as we know, when UNKewlJ says he is "done" that means he just getting started).

I dont care anymore. I am done

[MisterV]

So Dawg, you imply that your identity is not known.

One question: does your online law firm bio say to the effect that you came to America after finishing high school in another country in order to enhance your education?

[AxelWolf]

1) I think counting cards as an income source has probably months versus decades left to it. The AI is just too good. All casinos have to do is require ID to play -- ends card counting.

I really liked the rest of your post and I wonder if you are correct.

As far as the above statement I think you're wrong. Well, you put in a significantly large margin "months versus decades"
I would be willing to bet card counting will last for 20 years before it ends in months. Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Requiring ID wouldn't end card counting, it would just weed out the weak, hinder some, and discourage newcomers. There's an untold amount of card counters running around with multiple fake ID's. Yes, there are systems in place that help verify if the person is real or not, but there are ways around that. Required rated play isn't going to stop card counters. Even being trespassed isn't going to stop card counters.
There are guys who keep going back to the same places over and over again even after they have been warned. AI would/could be circumvented.

The only way to logistically stop AP is to stop having +EV situations, or perhaps make it illegal across the board to play with an advantage.

C'mon, Axelwolf. If your phone can require a fingerprint or facial ID for activation, it's a short trip (as in around the block) to sitting down at a machine or table requiring the same.

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

You "APs" -- all presumption of your own expertise while figuring everyone else is a yahoo.

Multiple actual socials still get shut down by consistent fingerprinting or retinal scans. Dead in the water. I'm sure Native American casinos in the middle of Oklahoma won't invest in the tech, so good luck at The Golden Pony (mickey knows whereof I speak).

I don't think Casinos be requiring fingerprint verification unless there's some major shift in the entire United States. If that happens everyone is fucked. I'm sure APs will figure a way around it anyways. If they somehow foil card counting that will just provide an opportunity elsewhere in blackjack.

I have been hearing the AP sky is falling since the early 90's. in the early 2000's at some point, I was a little concerned for a short while, but that didn't last long. When free play took off, it changed the game. Even the free-play game cooled off for a while and the casinos suffered and it came back with a vengeance.

I remember when the casinos and Game manufacturers like IGT swore off accumulator slots. They were avoiding that design as much as possible. From my understanding, people were hired just to design slots not to be Advantage Played. Now it's back better than ever, with more than ever.

I could go on forever about things that went away and came back or got replaced by something equal or better.


People oftentimes get that old guy "it was better back in the day" syndrome, Oftentimes the new guys even have a picture as such.
That's because they remember certain stories and think everything was better. It wasn't all better, it was just different. Oftentimes, guys only know their old ways don't/can't advance, and don't really realize what's going on around them. Perhaps they just don't care to. There's tons of shit I'm just not motivated to do nowadays, but I don't make the mistake of thinking there's nothing as good or better ways.

The reality is... only certain things and aspects were better, but as a whole AP opportunities just kept getting better.

Again, Advantage Play won't ever go away until there is no advantage to be had. If you pigeonhole yourself. then you're probably fucked.

[MisterV]

People oftentimes get that old guy "it was better back in the day" syndrome, Oftentimes the new guys even have a picture as such.
That's because they remember certain stories and think everything was better. It wasn't all better, it was just different.

"Different" can be "better."

Compare the cost of candy bars, then and now.

In the very early sixties I bought a full size Butterfinger candy bar from the local mom and pop store for a nickel.

Yesterday I went to the Arco store for gas, and saw that same size candy bar for sale for over two bucks.

Has inflation gone up 40-fold since I was a kid?

I think not.

[kewlJ]

I bought my first condo in Vegas in late 2009. But I was still on the lease on the apartment in Philadelphia, so 2010, I split between the two locations, spending summer in Philly to avoid my first summer in Vegas. That summer, 2010, was the year that table games were approved in Pennsylvania, with the liberal rules. So I headed to Parx casino to play blackjack.

Parx had these blackjack tables that were an odd hybrid tables of live dealer and video play, chipless type deal. It was a regular size table with dealer. To play the player had to insert a players card into the slot in front of each player. You the bought in for cash with the dealer but instead of receiving chips he credited your "seat". There was a small computer pad at each seat that you wagered from. So no chips in the circle. The dealer would then deal the cards as normal. You made regular hand signals to play and winnings went to your "account or seat".

So my immediate response was if this catches on, this is bad news for card counters, because 1) you had to have a players card inserted to play, so loss of identity (which could be worked around) and 2) because wagers were done digitally on the computer pad, they would be tracking players wagers and immediately see a player spreading (although tracking in real time with no delay should remain illegal based on the mindplay ruling).

So I didn't return to Parx that summer while in Phila area, but did play other Pa casino that didn't have this hybrid table. In September I returned to Vegas, and the next time I visited Pa, went back to Parx and all these hybrid tables were gone and I have never seen them anywhere else. So obviously this did not catch on, or maybe there was some behind the scenes type legal maneuvering that made it clear they couldn't do this (again based on the mindplay ruling).

So these things that you think "oh boy...that is the end of this or that", often turn out to be nothing. I am sure I had similar thoughts with both CSM and 6:5 blackjack and here 15 years later, still plenty of playable games.

[AxelWolf]

1) I think counting cards as an income source has probably months versus decades left to it. The AI is just too good. All casinos have to do is require ID to play -- ends card counting.

I really liked the rest of your post and I wonder if you are correct.

As far as the above statement I think you're wrong. Well, you put in a significantly large margin "months versus decades"
I would be willing to bet card counting will last for 20 years before it ends in months. Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Requiring ID wouldn't end card counting, it would just weed out the weak, hinder some, and discourage newcomers. There's an untold amount of card counters running around with multiple fake ID's. Yes, there are systems in place that help verify if the person is real or not, but there are ways around that. Required rated play isn't going to stop card counters. Even being trespassed isn't going to stop card counters.
There are guys who keep going back to the same places over and over again even after they have been warned. AI would/could be circumvented.

The only way to logistically stop AP is to stop having +EV situations, or perhaps make it illegal across the board to play with an advantage.

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

I haven't had a compelling enough reason to seek out multiple different SS numbers, I would just figure out a different way. I don't know if I could or would have access to that.
I do see some benefits to having legal multiple SS numbers and different names to match. But, the same name and DOB with a different SS number wouldn't benefit me for anything I do since they usually look at the name and DOB.
Even if you hit a jackpot and provide them with an incorrect SS number or legitimate tax ID number not on file and they catch it, or just can't confirm your actual SS number, you can simply sign paperwork claiming that's your SS/Tax ID number and they will pay you. I have had to do this on multiple occasions outside the state when they couldn't verify my actual SS number. I don't ever carry my SS card.

When you say Feds, I don't even know what you mean by that, because I assumed Social Security numbers are overseen by the SSA?

How many of those different SS numbers are authorized for use at one time? Can you legally use whatever one you want whenever you want? Are you implying you have a special connection that can get you them legally or otherwise, something or someone most people don't have access to? Or that you worked undercover that allowed for that?

Im aware you can apply for a new SS number for various reasons. Domestic violence seems to be a common reason. Damn, man... How many Exes beat the shit out of you?

Way Back in the day, it was probably fairly simple.

[accountinquestion]

I really liked the rest of your post and I wonder if you are correct.

As far as the above statement I think you're wrong. Well, you put in a significantly large margin "months versus decades"
I would be willing to bet card counting will last for 20 years before it ends in months. Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Requiring ID wouldn't end card counting, it would just weed out the weak, hinder some, and discourage newcomers. There's an untold amount of card counters running around with multiple fake ID's. Yes, there are systems in place that help verify if the person is real or not, but there are ways around that. Required rated play isn't going to stop card counters. Even being trespassed isn't going to stop card counters.
There are guys who keep going back to the same places over and over again even after they have been warned. AI would/could be circumvented.

The only way to logistically stop AP is to stop having +EV situations, or perhaps make it illegal across the board to play with an advantage.

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

I haven't had a compelling enough reason to seek out multiple different SS numbers, I would just figure out a different way. I don't know if I could or would have access to that.
I do see some benefits to having legal multiple SS numbers and different names to match. But, the same name and DOB with a different SS number wouldn't benefit me for anything I do since they usually look at the name and DOB.
Even if you hit a jackpot and provide them with an incorrect SS number or legitimate tax ID number not on file and they catch it, or just can't confirm your actual SS number, you can simply sign paperwork claiming that's your SS/Tax ID number and they will pay you. I have had to do this on multiple occasions outside the state when they couldn't verify my actual SS number. I don't ever carry my SS card.

When you say Feds, I don't even know what you mean by that, because I assumed Social Security numbers are overseen by the SSA?

How many of those different SS numbers are authorized for use at one time? Can you legally use whatever one you want whenever you want? Are you implying you have a special connection that can get you them legally or otherwise, something or someone most people don't have access to? Or that you worked undercover that allowed for that?

Im aware you can apply for a new SS number for various reasons. Domestic violence seems to be a common reason. Damn, man... How many Exes beat the shit out of you?

Way Back in the day, it was probably fairly simple.

I'm pretty sure Redietz is lying.. Having multiple SS numbers basically means you are committing fraud somewhere.

Redietz - where does Stanford recommend Ivermectin in any way ? Your claim is the opposite of what I saw after researching. Maybe you got it off a Youtube video and don't know you are wrong. Figures.

[AxelWolf]

I bought my first condo in Vegas in late 2009. But I was still on the lease on the apartment in Philadelphia, so 2010, I split between the two locations, spending summer in Philly to avoid my first summer in Vegas. That summer, 2010, was the year that table games were approved in Pennsylvania, with the liberal rules. So I headed to Parx casino to play blackjack.

Parx had these blackjack tables that were an odd hybrid tables of live dealer and video play, chipless type deal. It was a regular size table with dealer. To play the player had to insert a players card into the slot in front of each player. You the bought in for cash with the dealer but instead of receiving chips he credited your "seat". There was a small computer pad at each seat that you wagered from. So no chips in the circle. The dealer would then deal the cards as normal. You made regular hand signals to play and winnings went to your "account or seat".

So my immediate response was if this catches on, this is bad news for card counters, because 1) you had to have a players card inserted to play, so loss of identity (which could be worked around) and 2) because wagers were done digitally on the computer pad, they would be tracking players wagers and immediately see a player spreading (although tracking in real time with no delay should remain illegal based on the mindplay ruling).

So I didn't return to Parx that summer while in Phila area, but did play other Pa casino that didn't have this hybrid table. In September I returned to Vegas, and the next time I visited Pa, went back to Parx and all these hybrid tables were gone and I have never seen them anywhere else. So obviously this did not catch on, or maybe there was some behind the scenes type legal maneuvering that made it clear they couldn't do this (again based on the mindplay ruling).

So these things that you think "oh boy...that is the end of this or that", often turn out to be nothing. I am sure I had similar thoughts with both CSM and 6:5 blackjack and here 15 years later, still plenty of playable games.

+1

[AxelWolf]

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

I haven't had a compelling enough reason to seek out multiple different SS numbers, I would just figure out a different way. I don't know if I could or would have access to that.
I do see some benefits to having legal multiple SS numbers and different names to match. But, the same name and DOB with a different SS number wouldn't benefit me for anything I do since they usually look at the name and DOB.
Even if you hit a jackpot and provide them with an incorrect SS number or legitimate tax ID number not on file and they catch it, or just can't confirm your actual SS number, you can simply sign paperwork claiming that's your SS/Tax ID number and they will pay you. I have had to do this on multiple occasions outside the state when they couldn't verify my actual SS number. I don't ever carry my SS card.

When you say Feds, I don't even know what you mean by that, because I assumed Social Security numbers are overseen by the SSA?

How many of those different SS numbers are authorized for use at one time? Can you legally use whatever one you want whenever you want? Are you implying you have a special connection that can get you them legally or otherwise, something or someone most people don't have access to? Or that you worked undercover that allowed for that?

Im aware you can apply for a new SS number for various reasons. Domestic violence seems to be a common reason. Damn, man... How many Exes beat the shit out of you?

Way Back in the day, it was probably fairly simple.

I'm pretty sure Redietz is lying.. Having multiple SS numbers basically means you are committing fraud somewhere.

Redietz - where does Stanford recommend Ivermectin in any way ? Your claim is the opposite of what I saw after researching. Maybe you got it off a Youtube video and don't know you are wrong. Figures.

Read my post, it's possible to legally obtain a new SS number. Oh you probably did I didn't realize you quoted me.