kewlJ

[accountinquestion]

I haven't had a compelling enough reason to seek out multiple different SS numbers, I would just figure out a different way. I don't know if I could or would have access to that.
I do see some benefits to having legal multiple SS numbers and different names to match. But, the same name and DOB with a different SS number wouldn't benefit me for anything I do since they usually look at the name and DOB.
Even if you hit a jackpot and provide them with an incorrect SS number or legitimate tax ID number not on file and they catch it, or just can't confirm your actual SS number, you can simply sign paperwork claiming that's your SS/Tax ID number and they will pay you. I have had to do this on multiple occasions outside the state when they couldn't verify my actual SS number. I don't ever carry my SS card.

When you say Feds, I don't even know what you mean by that, because I assumed Social Security numbers are overseen by the SSA?

How many of those different SS numbers are authorized for use at one time? Can you legally use whatever one you want whenever you want? Are you implying you have a special connection that can get you them legally or otherwise, something or someone most people don't have access to? Or that you worked undercover that allowed for that?

Im aware you can apply for a new SS number for various reasons. Domestic violence seems to be a common reason. Damn, man... How many Exes beat the shit out of you?

Way Back in the day, it was probably fairly simple.

I'm pretty sure Redietz is lying.. Having multiple SS numbers basically means you are committing fraud somewhere.

Redietz - where does Stanford recommend Ivermectin in any way ? Your claim is the opposite of what I saw after researching. Maybe you got it off a Youtube video and don't know you are wrong. Figures.

Read my post, it's possible to legally obtain a new SS number. Oh you probably did I didn't realize you quoted me.

And be able to use both at the same time as hinted at? I guess I wasn't clear what I meant. You can have multiple SSNs but being able to use them both at the same time in an attempt to hide your identity is almost guaranteed to be fraud. You are evading something.

If you get a 2nd legitimately from the IRS it really isn't going to help much. If you get one due to your SSN being stolen then perhaps you can use the first one and then claim whatever activity was due to the existing identity theft.

You can get EINs all day long but SSNs? If they are all valid which does nothing or somehow some of them are invalid which means fraud. Perhaps Redietz has done some identity theft on himself but I wouldn't believe him.

[AxelWolf]

I haven't had a compelling enough reason to seek out multiple different SS numbers, I would just figure out a different way. I don't know if I could or would have access to that.
I do see some benefits to having legal multiple SS numbers and different names to match. But, the same name and DOB with a different SS number wouldn't benefit me for anything I do since they usually look at the name and DOB.
Even if you hit a jackpot and provide them with an incorrect SS number or legitimate tax ID number not on file and they catch it, or just can't confirm your actual SS number, you can simply sign paperwork claiming that's your SS/Tax ID number and they will pay you. I have had to do this on multiple occasions outside the state when they couldn't verify my actual SS number. I don't ever carry my SS card.

When you say Feds, I don't even know what you mean by that, because I assumed Social Security numbers are overseen by the SSA?

How many of those different SS numbers are authorized for use at one time? Can you legally use whatever one you want whenever you want? Are you implying you have a special connection that can get you them legally or otherwise, something or someone most people don't have access to? Or that you worked undercover that allowed for that?

Im aware you can apply for a new SS number for various reasons. Domestic violence seems to be a common reason. Damn, man... How many Exes beat the shit out of you?

Way Back in the day, it was probably fairly simple.

I'm pretty sure Redietz is lying.. Having multiple SS numbers basically means you are committing fraud somewhere.

Redietz - where does Stanford recommend Ivermectin in any way ? Your claim is the opposite of what I saw after researching. Maybe you got it off a Youtube video and don't know you are wrong. Figures.

Read my post, it's possible to legally obtain a new SS number. Oh you probably did I didn't realize you quoted me.

I just don't know that it shows that he's connected in some special way. I don't even know why he thinks my mentioning fake IDs indicated I was indicating that I was connected. Perhaps he isn't informed about how easy it is to get fake ID's nowadays.

[accountinquestion]

I'm pretty sure Redietz is lying.. Having multiple SS numbers basically means you are committing fraud somewhere.

Redietz - where does Stanford recommend Ivermectin in any way ? Your claim is the opposite of what I saw after researching. Maybe you got it off a Youtube video and don't know you are wrong. Figures.

Read my post, it's possible to legally obtain a new SS number. Oh you probably did I didn't realize you quoted me.

I just don't know that it shows that he's connected in some special way. I don't even know why he thinks my mentioning fake IDs indicated I was indicating that I was connected. Perhaps he isn't informed about how easy it is to get fake ID's nowadays.

It is very unlikely he knows the state of fake IDs given how little he knows about the state of sports betting where he professes to be an expert.

[AxelWolf]

I'm pretty sure Redietz is lying.. Having multiple SS numbers basically means you are committing fraud somewhere.

Redietz - where does Stanford recommend Ivermectin in any way ? Your claim is the opposite of what I saw after researching. Maybe you got it off a Youtube video and don't know you are wrong. Figures.

Read my post, it's possible to legally obtain a new SS number. Oh you probably did I didn't realize you quoted me.

And be able to use both at the same time as hinted at? I guess I wasn't clear what I meant. You can have multiple SSNs but being able to use them both at the same time in an attempt to hide your identity is almost guaranteed to be fraud. You are evading something.

If you get a 2nd legitimately from the IRS it really isn't going to help much. If you get one due to your SSN being stolen then perhaps you can use the first one and then claim whatever activity was due to the existing identity theft.

You can get EINs all day long but SSNs? If they are all valid which does nothing or somehow some of them are invalid which means fraud. Perhaps Redietz has done some identity theft on himself but I wouldn't believe him.

That's why I asked those questions. We are on the same page as far as my understanding but I don't know if there's some special exception. By Him saying, "I bet im more connected than you" That indicates something more. Perhaps he has the SSA number on speed dial and they know him by name, therefore, he is more connected.

[kewlJ]

I very casually looked into the whole fake ID thing, including getting a second SS#, which you can do. I thought I read that a new SS# is linked to your previous SS#, at least with government and police agencies. I don't think an ordinary business would see this link, but don't hold me to that.....I wouldn't want to be accused of lying.

With fake ID's, it was my understanding at the time, that it isn't illegal to use a fake Id to obtain a players card. But giving a fake ID to police was illegal. And that makes sense. But there was some kind of wording that if police do a search and find fake Id's on you or even in your vehicle that is a crime or results in legal trouble, that would cost money and time to get out of...even if you have not done anything illegal with that fake ID. Something like that.

Anyway, for my interest, which I am sure is obvious, I just decided the risk was greater than the reward, although I do know a couple AP's that use fake IDs.

[AxelWolf]

Read my post, it's possible to legally obtain a new SS number. Oh you probably did I didn't realize you quoted me.

I just don't know that it shows that he's connected in some special way. I don't even know why he thinks my mentioning fake IDs indicated I was indicating that I was connected. Perhaps he isn't informed about how easy it is to get fake ID's nowadays.

It is very unlikely he knows the state of fake IDs given how little he knows about the state of sports betting where he professes to be an expert.

I Know a few offshore sports books wanted your SS number. That would help for Multi accounting. I don't know the legalities, if any, when dealing with that type of thing offshore but I doubt anyone is gonna come for you.

[accountinquestion]

I very casually looked into the whole fake ID thing, including getting a second SS#, which you can do. I thought I read that a new SS# is linked to your previous SS#, at least with government and police agencies. I don't think an ordinary business would see this link, but don't hold me to that.....I wouldn't want to be accused of lying.

With fake ID's, it was my understanding at the time, that it isn't illegal to use a fake Id to obtain a players card. But giving a fake ID to police was illegal. And that makes sense. But there was some kind of wording that if police do a search and find fake Id's on you or even in your vehicle that is a crime or results in legal trouble, that would cost money and time to get out of...even if you have not done anything illegal with that fake ID. Something like that.

Anyway, for my interest, which I am sure is obvious, I just decided the risk was greater than the reward, although I do know a couple AP's that use fake IDs.

Presenting the fake id should be state law and would depend on the jurisdiction where you do it at. There might also be different categories of use. It is worth looking up for the jurisdiction you are in if you have interest in the subject. Just having it in your car is likely illegal in some states.

[Rob.Singer]

Give up the nonsensical explanations of having and using a 2nd SS#.

Sure anyone can obtain a new SS#. But you need a valid reason for the SS administration to issue you a legal one. Unresolvable identity theft, witness protection, etc. LEGAL reasons. I had one along with a complete new identity when I worked for the Govt, and it was all pulled and closed down the day I retired.

But this notion that just anybody--especially GAMBLERS--can simply apply for and get a 2nd SS# without one of the limited valid reasons as outlined in the Fededal code is just people flapping their mouths trying to sound knowledgeable. And ANYBODY who goes out and buys or is given a FAKE identity--which can easily be done thru the criminal underground--is blatantly stupid and only asking for trouble. But good AP's and other savvy gamblers, while generally street-smart and very aware of what's going on within their spheres, would be extremely foolish to add a criminal activity to their arsenal.

Redietz comes from Mars don't forget. They ALL have multiple SS numbers, and none of them pay their property taxes.

[MaxPen]

I bought my first condo in Vegas in late 2009. But I was still on the lease on the apartment in Philadelphia, so 2010, I split between the two locations, spending summer in Philly to avoid my first summer in Vegas. That summer, 2010, was the year that table games were approved in Pennsylvania, with the liberal rules. So I headed to Parx casino to play blackjack.

Parx had these blackjack tables that were an odd hybrid tables of live dealer and video play, chipless type deal. It was a regular size table with dealer. To play the player had to insert a players card into the slot in front of each player. You the bought in for cash with the dealer but instead of receiving chips he credited your "seat". There was a small computer pad at each seat that you wagered from. So no chips in the circle. The dealer would then deal the cards as normal. You made regular hand signals to play and winnings went to your "account or seat".

So my immediate response was if this catches on, this is bad news for card counters, because 1) you had to have a players card inserted to play, so loss of identity (which could be worked around) and 2) because wagers were done digitally on the computer pad, they would be tracking players wagers and immediately see a player spreading (although tracking in real time with no delay should remain illegal based on the mindplay ruling).

So I didn't return to Parx that summer while in Phila area, but did play other Pa casino that didn't have this hybrid table. In September I returned to Vegas, and the next time I visited Pa, went back to Parx and all these hybrid tables were gone and I have never seen them anywhere else. So obviously this did not catch on, or maybe there was some behind the scenes type legal maneuvering that made it clear they couldn't do this (again based on the mindplay ruling).

So these things that you think "oh boy...that is the end of this or that", often turn out to be nothing. I am sure I had similar thoughts with both CSM and 6:5 blackjack and here 15 years later, still plenty of playable games.

Those tables are pretty common in European casinos.

[MisterV]

Give up the nonsensical explanations of having and using a 2nd SS#...I had one along with a complete new identity when I worked for the Govt, and it was all pulled and closed down the day I retired.

Did you return your shoe phone?

https://www.google.com/search?client...id:hHrnLOb1hTA

[kewlJ]

Those tables are pretty common in European casinos.

Really? Remind me not to go to Europe to count cards.

Well even though I haven't seen those exact tables again here in the U.S., we now have stadium blackjack, which is basically the same thing with even more players per dealer.

There certainly was a lot of stadium blackjack that popped up just after covid, but I haven't seen it spreading much and there would be a long way to go before it displaces regular blackjack everywhere. So I am not worried about that either for the moment.

[AxelWolf]

People oftentimes get that old guy "it was better back in the day" syndrome, Oftentimes the new guys even have a picture as such.
That's because they remember certain stories and think everything was better. It wasn't all better, it was just different.

"Different" can be "better."

Compare the cost of candy bars, then and now.

In the very early sixties I bought a full size Butterfinger candy bar from the local mom and pop store for a nickel.

Yesterday I went to the Arco store for gas, and saw that same size candy bar for sale for over two bucks.

Has inflation gone up 40-fold since I was a kid?

I think not.

Do you understand how fat kids (and adults) would be if you could get candy bars on the cheap? It's probably a good thing.

[AxelWolf]

People oftentimes get that old guy "it was better back in the day" syndrome, Oftentimes the new guys even have a picture as such.
That's because they remember certain stories and think everything was better. It wasn't all better, it was just different.

"Different" can be "better."

Compare the cost of candy bars, then and now.

In the very early sixties I bought a full size Butterfinger candy bar from the local mom and pop store for a nickel.

Yesterday I went to the Arco store for gas, and saw that same size candy bar for sale for over two bucks.

Has inflation gone up 40-fold since I was a kid?

I think not.

Do you understand how fat kids (and adults) would be if you could get candy bars on the cheap? It's probably a good thing.

[AxelWolf]

I very casually looked into the whole fake ID thing, including getting a second SS#, which you can do. I thought I read that a new SS# is linked to your previous SS#, at least with government and police agencies. I don't think an ordinary business would see this link, but don't hold me to that.....I wouldn't want to be accused of lying.

With fake ID's, it was my understanding at the time, that it isn't illegal to use a fake Id to obtain a players card. But giving a fake ID to police was illegal. And that makes sense. But there was some kind of wording that if police do a search and find fake Id's on you or even in your vehicle that is a crime or results in legal trouble, that would cost money and time to get out of...even if you have not done anything illegal with that fake ID. Something like that.

Anyway, for my interest, which I am sure is obvious, I just decided the risk was greater than the reward, although I do know a couple AP's that use fake IDs.

Presenting the fake id should be state law and would depend on the jurisdiction where you do it at. There might also be different categories of use. It is worth looking up for the jurisdiction you are in if you have interest in the subject. Just having it in your car is likely illegal in some states.

Absolutely Correct. If I remember correctly NJ has strict las regarding this.

[MisterV]

Do you understand how fat kids (and adults) would be if you could get candy bars on the cheap? It's probably a good thing.

Cheap candy bars probably wouldn't make it any worse than it is now.

It seems every year Americans are getting fatter and fatter and goddamn it, not only are they complacent about it, but advertisers encourage it.

Lots of TV ads for diabetes meds, and hey, most of the actors in the ads are overweight.

"Don't worry if you can't see your Johnson, big boy, just take this little pill..."

Bah, humbug.

[AxelWolf]

But this notion that just anybody--especially GAMBLERS--can simply apply for and get a 2nd SS# without one of the limited valid reasons as outlined in the Fededal code is just people flapping their mouths trying to sound knowledgeable. And ANYBODY who goes out and buys or is given a FAKE identity--which can easily be done thru the criminal underground--is blatantly stupid and only asking for trouble. But good AP's and other savvy gamblers, while generally street-smart and very aware of what's going on within their spheres, would be extremely foolish to add a criminal activity to their arsenal.

Most APs probably wouldn't be bragging or talking about that stuff.

[AxelWolf]

Do you understand how fat kids (and adults) would be if you could get candy bars on the cheap? It's probably a good thing.

Cheap candy bars probably wouldn't make it any worse than it is now.

It seems every year Americans are getting fatter and fatter and goddamn it, not only are they complacent about it, but advertisers encourage it.

Lots of TV ads for diabetes meds, and hey, most of the actors in the ads are overweight.

"Don't worry if you can't see your Johnson, big boy, just take this little pill..."

Bah, humbug.

Soo many fatties at Walmart. I will see an entire fat family, parents, Teens, toddlers, kids, Grandma, and perhaps a friend.
You can just tell they are using the EBT.

[MDawg]

Not the first time the thought has come to me, but never so forcefully as today, that if this guy had spent his WHOLE LIFE trying to come up with a screen name, he could not have come up with one further from his personality.

The guy just exudes nervous UNKewl jitters. 10x multiplier responses and all that. Just no way this guy could survive let alone thrive in any kind of environment where keeping one's cool is needed.

NOT the guy you'd want as your co-pilot on a bomber run, that's for sure.

He's very UNKOOL and will remain so, till the end of time. Nothing can ever make him cool whatsoever !

[mickeycrimm]

Kewl does lie about his winnings. He claimed he won $100,000 off $50 freeplay.

Not taking sides in this feud. Just pointing something out and it has nothing to do with KJ. It's about the math of getting $50 in freeplay and hitting a 100K jackpot with it.

If someone says "I've had exactly $50 in freeplay my entire life and I hit a 100K jackpot with it." Well, yeah, I would call bullshit.

But if someone said "I've run off $50 in freeplay a thousand times over the years and on one batch I hit a 100K jackpot." That would make the story more believable.

If KJ's claims are true, that 20% of his income was from video poker, and he had a partner doing the same thing, and they did it for years, then....

The classic way of running video poker/freeplay in Las Vegas is playing a slightly negative game to get the freeplay. And the freeplay makes it a positive.

If KJ and his partner were doing it the classic way then they were running off five figures a year in freeplay, albeit, in small batches, like $50 or $100.

I'm sure that $50 is not the only freeplay KJ has run off before. The number is probably in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands. So the claim of hitting the 100K jackpot is not so outlandish when put into perspective.

[accountinquestion]

Kewl does lie about his winnings. He claimed he won $100,000 off $50 freeplay.

Not taking sides in this feud. Just pointing something out and it has nothing to do with KJ. It's about the math of getting $50 in freeplay and hitting a 100K jackpot with it.

If someone says "I've had exactly $50 in freeplay my entire life and I hit a 100K jackpot with it." Well, yeah, I would call bullshit.

But if someone said "I've run off $50 in freeplay a thousand times over the years and on one batch I hit a 100K jackpot." That would make the story more believable.

If KJ's claims are true, that 20% of his income was from video poker, and he had a partner doing the same thing, and they did it for years, then....

The classic way of running video poker/freeplay in Las Vegas is playing a slightly negative game to get the freeplay. And the freeplay makes it a positive.

If KJ and his partner were doing it the classic way then they were running off five figures a year in freeplay, albeit, in small batches, like $50 or $100.

I'm sure that $50 is not the only freeplay KJ has run off before. The number is probably in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands. So the claim of hitting the 100K jackpot is not so outlandish when put into perspective.

I do not particularly disagree but if I recall correctly the story had him getting $50 for a new player sign up which does not suggest any sort of volume but to me more importantly it makes the story even less believable. In addition he has still been unable to name the machine. And if you are signing up for players clubs to get $50 in Free! play you are most likely not spinning it off in $10 spins.