kewlJ

[accountinquestion]

redundant post.

[accountinquestion]

I'll put up the same as what he puts up, if that is the stumbling block, but whatever we put up has to be mutually at risk. Obviously. At his end, if he knows that he has the proof of the ACH settlement for his backrooming incident, then whatever he puts up isn't even at risk.

This is a perfectly fair proposal, and if he wants Todd to be the arbiter, that's fine with me too.

THE UNKEWL CHALLENGE

If this liar can produce evidence that he received a settlement from his made up backrooming incident on the date he claims I will match the amount he received in the ACH. The question just is, what is he willing to put up if he cannot produce the proof he claims exists. Since he "knows" he got the settlement, I'd assume that he'd put up any amount, since he "knows" he will win this challenge?

He doesn't have to meet me, he can provide the proof to the Wizard who will be back in town soon enough and can handle this. Hell, I don't care, he can provide it to MrV if he likes, MrV won't even have to come to Vegas all he will have to do is login to UNKewlJ's meager bank account to see that there is nothing there, barely two nickels to rub together and no record of any ACH from Saturday, 6/24/23. He may change the banking login password to something simple, facilitate Wizard or V's login, and then change it afterwards.

I know such evidence does not exist. It is impossible that he received an ACH after midnight on a Saturday (meaning, after 11:59pm Friday, 6/23/23).

I am in Vegas now and will leave this offer open for one week.

How about it UNKewlJ, is it worth it to you to double what you supposedly got in this settlement, in one blow? AND prove yourself.

So this is a bet at 1:1 and not you simply offering to have his payout effectively doubled? This is the part that isn't clear to me.

Maybe let Kewl slide a bit and put up less money since you clearly have more financial resources. The money means far less to you. Fairness comes in different ways.

[MDawg]

He's proposing that he not only put up nothing! in advance, but even have no penalty.

Yes my proposal is that I will match whatever he got, which will make it so that this fictional amount he received gets doubled, if he can prove that it was not fictional, and landed on the Saturday date he claims.

[kewlJ]

Nope. For all I know, Mdawg and Todd or any arbitrator could collude, say terms were not met and split my money. So I would never put up a penny on a internet wager, challenges like this. Never have never will. Risk I would never accept.

This was Mdawgs idea. He is so sure, or claims to be that, he has to accept the risk. He has to pay.

And even at that, AinQ is pointing out some difficulties with this on my end. Some risk that I have never and will never accept on this kind of internet shit.

I want to wait and give Druff a chance to weigh in with any interest and possible suggestions. But I laid out my terms and they are pretty much non-negotiable.

[MDawg]

Like I said,

Idiot is proposing that one side put up in advance all the penalty for the Wager, and the other side not only put up nothing, but even have no penalty for losing the Wager.

mentally ill redchipper

He made this one sided proposal because he knows that even someone as idiotic as he is would never accept such a thing. It's about a stupid as when he was going on and on about how he protected his privacy by lying about the lawsuit, but could never come up with anything even reasonably plausibly as to how lying about the lawsuit and then retracting the lie protected him in any way.

[kewlJ]

He's proposing that he not only put up nothing! in advance, but even have no penalty.

Because it isn't a contest nor wager. This is YOU, stating with absolute certainly that there was no settlement, just as you have with all kinds of other things. You offered to double that amount, for me to prove there was. I am giving you the chance to prove me wrong. But it is going to cost you if you are wrong. That is the way it is.

Is it a sure win for me? Absolutely. That is the only way I would reveal anything to anyone.

again this was your idea. You can accept my terms or not. If you are as certain as you claim, it shouldn't matter.

Now it is friday afternoon, which is the start of my busy part of week (weekend) with blackjack play and sports wagering and watching games. I will be checking in, waiting for Todd to weigh in, but I am not going to just spend hours on this. And Mdawg if you really want this to happen, be prepared to put up the money quickly. If you have to make some arrangements, do so.

Otherwise just fuck off.

[MDawg]

Jerk off, no one is going to do a wager where you put up zero and even propose to change the terms to give yourself no penalty. All that would happen is that I waste time putting up money and then you decide you don't want to do it (because you can't). Just more "sure there is a lawsuit, but you can't see it" nonsense lies, where you waste everyone's time.

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Okay how about somethin' simple. Here again is the screenshot of just one of my ACHs from today. I have others I can post, no big thang.

You post the screenshot of your ACH from 6/24, easy to redact, cover up the exact amount the way I did, and I will BTC you $1000. of BTC right then and there. I'll leave this offer open for one hour. Just make it look good UNKewlJ, if it's fake photoshopped nonsense, we will know!

And what do you have to lose anyway? At worst people will laugh at you for posting a fake, at best you'll get $1000. And if I don't send you that $1000. after everyone agrees that what you post is legitimate, I'll be the goat, instead of you.

One hour. It should take you about ten minutes to screenshot it. In your case, you don't even need to redact the sender because you need to show it to prove it's legitimate and involving this fictional backrooming incident.


I either have now or have had bank accounts with every major and several minor banking institution in the U.S. and overseas chances are whatever you post, I will know exactly what it should look like.

[accountinquestion]

Nope. For all I know, Mdawg and Todd or any arbitrator could collude, say terms were not met and split my money. So I would never put up a penny on a internet wager, challenges like this. Never have never will. Risk I would never accept.

This was Mdawgs idea. He is so sure, or claims to be that, he has to accept the risk. He has to pay.

And even at that, AinQ is pointing out some difficulties with this on my end. Some risk that I have never and will never accept on this kind of internet shit.

I want to wait and give Druff a chance to weigh in with any interest and possible suggestions. But I laid out my terms and they are pretty much non-negotiable.

I'm not understanding here. Mdawg seems to be saying that he will pay you your settlement amount. You claim that your money will be split?

Mdawg, am I understanding here that Kewl would have nothing to lose outside of telling Todd his name?

Again, a professional gambler would never make this so difficult to not collect the money. If you can't negotiate in good faith it is the same as not taking him up on his offer. Don't blame internet wagers for what you yourself are doing.

Lay out your terms. Who would sign this document and when? You have been really vague about this like most things. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. So lay out in steps how you see this happening. Vagueness just suggests bullshit like everyone has come to believe in regards to you.

Kewl, lets prove you are legitimate.

[MDawg]

Everyone else understands. I made a simple proposal. UNKewlJ said no to it because he knows he could never win.

So then he came back with a nonsense proposal that he put up zero and lose nothing when he cannot come up with the evidence. Absurd. No one would accept that, and he knows it which is why he proposed it. His proposing something that absurd reinforces that he is lying about all of this, there never was any ACH. If there were, he would put up any amount of money to back up a Wager such as I made.

[MaxPen]

Everyone else understands. I made a simple proposal. UNKewlJ said no to it because he knows he could never win.

So then he came back with a nonsense proposal that he put up zero and lose nothing when he cannot come up with the evidence. Absurd. No one would accept that, and he knows it which is why he proposed it. His proposing something that absurd reinforces that he is lying about all of this, there never was any ACH. If there were, he would put up any amount of money to back up a Wager such as I made.

Rob.Singer taught him well. He's no Singer though. Not even close...RIP

[MDawg]

Right. Besides the "I will put up nothing, and I will not give you anything after I lose" he also tossed a $500,000. figure out there for what I'd have to put up.

He wanted to make sure that no sane person would accept, because then UNKewlJ would be stuck.

R.I.P.

On the other hand, as Smurgerburger pointed out,

There is no chance a professional gambler would turn down that offer.

because my offer was something that no sane person would turn down. If he knew he could win, that is.

[kewlJ]

Accountinquestion, don't you dare give me your "good faith" bullshit. "Good faith" set sail long ago, years ago, when you and other and you just as much as others in your sneaky little way, began attacking and trying to discredit me on an almost daily basis AND not saying a word and sometimes repeating some of the nasty accusations that you KNOW were not true. Where was your "good faith" or even sense of decency then? So you can shove your goid faith up your ass.

This isn't about good faith, nor is it a wager. This is about trolls that have been trolling me forever wanting me to prove something, which is something I have always been against for anyone, not just myself, since long before this specific issue.

This is a gambling forum (barely), and no one is required to prove anything.

If you, MDawg or anyone else wants me to prove something, you are going to have to pay for that by agreeing to my terms, which will be slanted heavily towards me and me not being scammed or colluded against.

Suck on that Mr Good Faith.

[kewlJ]

My settlement is an amount that was several years my average earning and that is even probably more than I am allowed to say, but I certainly can't be more specific. A $500,000 escrow will guarantee that amount without me revealing the settlement amount.and the unused will be returned.

Mdawgs proposal was that he would double my settlement amount if I proved it to a 3rd party. THAT is what I am agreeing to by my terms. Nothing more.

[MDawg]

At least today at VCT wasn't a total loss. We established in yet another way that UNKewlJ lied about the entire backrooming incident. The impossibility of the Saturday early morning ACH!

Now go back to pretending that you're going to go out and do anything more than push a shopping cart around and whine on VCT about how unfair it all is (when you stop in over there around the 600 block of LV Blvd, for some internet access, that is).



The FOURTEEN most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (8) the rigged shuffler, (9) the impossibility of the Saturday early morning ACH, (9) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (10) $50K multi hand VP hit, (11) winning a car, (12) lied about whether or not he was gay, (13) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

[AxelWolf]

Ok, I accept. These are my terms.

Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) is who I choose to be the arbitrator, although there will be written conditions, agreed to in writing by Wittless, enforceable by legal action, if necessary.

Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

I will meet with Todd, take him to my bank and request a print out of my account transactions for the period. This will insure that I am not using some doctored document. I will also allow him to speak with bank personnel, and authorize bank personnél to speak to him about my account, if he desires. These documents will not remain with Witteles after verification, nor be turned over to Mdawg to view at any time, as he has proven he will use whatever information he can to harm my career.

Upon completion of verification, Todd Witteles will disburse to me a matching amount of my recent settlement, from the escrow and return the balance less any agree fee for his participation to Mdawg.

These are my terms. They are non-negotiatable. And I will not spend days and weeks going back and forth as these challenges always do, turning into nothing. If and when Todd agrees to participate, money must be deposited within 24 hours or by the next business day if he agrees this weekend.

Perhaps I missed something, but how would this provide proof this was a settlement from a casino backrooming/broken arm?

It could be from life insurance, inheritance, car accident, house sale etc.

[MDawg]

If I were to unredact the record of the ACH I posted, you'd see exactly who sent the ACH, or at least enough to identify the source. You'd also see the name of the person or entity that was its intended recipient.

Similarly, if UNKewlJ really did receive an ACH enough about the sender should appear on his bank statement to verify from where it came. He took another powder today on accepting a free $1000. in BTC for nothing more than a screenshot:

Jerk off, no one is going to do a wager where you put up zero and even propose to change the terms to give yourself no penalty. All that would happen is that I waste time putting up money and then you decide you don't want to do it (because you can't). Just more "sure there is a lawsuit, but you can't see it" nonsense lies, where you waste everyone's time.

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Okay how about somethin' simple. Here again is the screenshot of just one of my ACHs from today. I have others I can post, no big thang.

You post the screenshot of your ACH from 6/24, easy to redact, cover up the exact amount the way I did, and I will BTC you $1000. of BTC right then and there. I'll leave this offer open for one hour. Just make it look good UNKewlJ, if it's fake photoshopped nonsense, we will know!

And what do you have to lose anyway? At worst people will laugh at you for posting a fake, at best you'll get $1000. And if I don't send you that $1000. after everyone agrees that what you post is legitimate, I'll be the goat, instead of you.

One hour. It should take you about ten minutes to screenshot it. In your case, you don't even need to redact the sender because you need to show it to prove it's legitimate and involving this fictional backrooming incident.


I either have now or have had bank accounts with every major and several minor banking institution in the U.S. and overseas chances are whatever you post, I will know exactly what it should look like.

[accountinquestion]

Accountinquestion, don't you dare give me your "good faith" bullshit. "Good faith" set sail long ago, years ago, when you and other and you just as much as others in your sneaky little way, began attacking and trying to discredit me on an almost daily basis AND not saying a word and sometimes repeating some of the nasty accusations that you KNOW were not true. Where was your "good faith" or even sense of decency then? So you can shove your goid faith up your ass.

This isn't about good faith, nor is it a wager. This is about trolls that have been trolling me forever wanting me to prove something, which is something I have always been against for anyone, not just myself, since long before this specific issue.

This is a gambling forum (barely), and no one is required to prove anything.

If you, MDawg or anyone else wants me to prove something, you are going to have to pay for that by agreeing to my terms, which will be slanted heavily towards me and me not being scammed or colluded against.

Suck on that Mr Good Faith.

You are so nonsensical none of this makes sense. Read the room. Why do you even post here?

Everyone knows it is all bullshit so yes you were trolled but I believe Mdawg would have probably came through. At least on the amount he put up. You're not a real gambler. You'd have took the money. Nothing about you is real. You've paraded around these forums trying to disprove people FOR A DECADE OR MORE yet you yourself are a bigger fraud than any of them. You are clearly mentally ill. When one sits back from it and asks themselves what would lead a person to do such a thing? It is one thing to just pretend you're a card counter but you coupled it with going after people who actually do gamble.

How would 500k escrowed mean you're not scammed or colluded? I'm missing that part.

It wouldn't. You're just backed in a corner again. Luckily for you there are no more databases to prove anything.

Your lack of demonstrating any veracity works both ways. Don't whine when people suggest you are a prostitute or not even a man. Or any of the other stuff. Like you said, it is the internet. Why would anyone believe anything from you at this point. You are the internet bro, nothing more.

I'd try to broker this deal but it seems that Kewl (no surprise) is going to find a way to back out of it.

RIP

[MisterV]

At least today at VCT wasn't a total loss. We established in yet another way that UNKewlJ lied about the entire backrooming incident.

Nice try, but once again EPIC FAIL.

What we HAVE confirmed is that you are an internet bully who is full of shit.

Of course you'd weasel out...it's what you do.

[accountinquestion]

At least today at VCT wasn't a total loss. We established in yet another way that UNKewlJ lied about the entire backrooming incident.

Nice try, but once again EPIC FAIL.

What we HAVE confirmed is that you are an internet bully who is full of shit.

Of course you'd weasel out...it's what you do.

If someone lies about literally everything and then another person lies about them, can you even say that the latter is a lie? I'm not sure.

[MisterV]

Do you seriously believe that KJ lies about EVERYTHING?

I don't.

To each his own.