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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I rarely ever go to that site so im not sure what he is getting on about, but From what I gathered redietz was preaching about how middling was not a viable option to make decent money is sports. I can't remember exactly what he said but he basically called out/put down everything but handicapping
    I think I can recap what is going on over there with redietz the past few days. As everyone knows I am not good with brevity and I don't think this can be brief, but I will try.

    This particular redietz freakout is about me. For years I have done a little sports betting for entertainment and at a small cost of a couple thousand a year betting games and watching. Typical ploppy sports betting shit. With all the talk of sports betting and particularly inspired by Axelwolf saying how anybody could make money sports betting taking advantages of the online bonus, I decided to give it a shot. Axelwolf, I don't believe is a big sports guy. He said something about it doesn't really matter how you pick your games, you could flip a coin and still make money (because it is really all about the bonus money).

    So with a bit of "extra money" on my hands this year after a settlement, I deposited money into 4 different sportsbooks online. I asked around, and picked sportsbooks that some people use and have confidence in, including one that I have been using for years. End result was 21k in bonus money with about 100k in rollover requirements.

    Next how to pick my games. I decided rather than a coin flip or my on handicapping talents which has proven to be lacking, I would employ some of the techniques being talked about in the past 6 months by mickey and others. These were trend type things from years past that seem to do well every year. At the top of that list was a play that Half Smoke had mentions, betting NFL underdogs (with points) the first 2 weeks of the season. I think results were this had been a winner for 5 years. Well each of the first 2 weeks went 10-6 this year so that was a +8 start.

    Second method of picking I was going to use was following Dan Druff's NFL picks. Druff was fantastic in the NFL last years, and I don't know how he makes his picks exactly but he seems to do well. So Druff went 6-1 over the first couple weeks to start the NFL season. So this made me +13 in picks for the first couple weeks.

    The 3rd angle I wanted to employ, was something I saw on one of the handicapping TV shows. New college rules of a running clock except the last 2 minutes of halves, was supposed to shorten the games by about 6 plays. Over unders would be adjusted accordingly, but several guys on this show seemed to think the effect would be more that what was projected at least initially. So I decided to bet the under on all competitive college football games the first few weeks. Competitive means, throwing out games that were one of the majors conference teams against some non-major conference team, where scores are often 70-10. lets call these "the cupcake games".

    So for the first two weeks this angle won both weeks for another +9. Total 22 games over .500. Add in a few of my own picks picking underdogs getting 3.5 and 7.5 points, another angle and I was 25 games over .500 after 2 weeks. When I posted this redietz freaked out, screaming no one could be 25 games over .500. I don't think redietz even knew the volume of wagering I was doing. It isn't like I was 27-2 or something I was 56-31.

    I tried to explain to redietz that I had been very fortunate in the angles I was playing all happened to do well those first 2 weeks. It isn't like I am some great handicapper. But he continued to freak out. He seems to have this bug up his ass that AP's can't and shouldn't be making money at sports betting and resents anyone who is.

    So the middling comments came from reditz saying if I was really +25 after two weeks (which went down to almost 0 over the next 3 weeks), I should have preserved that +25 by middleing. I know about middleing strategies but have never been real impressed. You have to wait around all week constantly watching lines for a little movement and frankly, that didn't interest me, nor did I want to invest my time like that. This after all was a supplemental thing for me. I was and am still just trying to get through my rollover requirements, as close to .500 or above if possible.

    But in the end, it all comes back to redietz thinks he is some great sports handicapper and no one can make money, at sports but him, when the fact is there are all kinds of ways to make money with the bonuses and all today. Like Axelwolf said, you don't even have to know or follow sports to make money using the bonuses.

    So that is what the past few days and this particular freak out by redietz have been about.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 10-18-2023 at 02:57 PM.
    The insecure little man that posts as Mdawg is no longer worth of that handle. From this point forward he will be known as "turtle" in reference to his insecurity and small dick that accompanies such insecure, little men.

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