Maxpen, was asking if Wizard is that person that has met Mdawg a tough question for you? We both know you have told me that. I don't see what is so hard about that.

But anyway, moving along in the interest of time, because I will be heading out shortly, this is what Wizard wrote on August 13 about this particular situation and claim. Mdawgs comments in italic. Wizard response bolded for distinction.

Quote: MDawg
This was an interesting session. Occurred over the past year, not necessarily during the current trip. I reported it, but not all the details. I didn't want to report it too close to when it happened because I felt like the incident was memorable enough to stick in who knows whose craw for a while.

I played at a casino where I have not played in a very long time. I have a player card there, but no credit line.

I bought in for $35,000. DD Blackjack. 3:2. Regular table. Decent rules.

My min bet was 100, max 5000. I played in that range. I jammed the bet whenever the count was high enough and my total recall of every card played and the sequence of the most recent cards out, told me to jam it up there.

I was playing alone at times, with up to three other players at times.

Eventually, I declared that I was going to take every single (500) chip from the dealer's tray, and wasn't going to stop until I had them all. I wasn't collecting any 1000s, pretty much just 100s and 500s.

It took a very long time, something like ten hours of almost straight play. And there was a lot of back and forth, but eventually, with the final hand being a 5000 one I did it. Now, at this particular casino, every single (500) in the tray wasn't a fortune. But it was a lot. This wasn't one of the majors.

But what's funny is that afterwards, I ran into one of the players who had been at my table, who was surprised that I hadn't cleared many times what I cleared, as in emptied out at least all the 1000 and many of 5000 chips too, because this player mentioned that if I had played flat out there were long periods when I was winning every single hand. But, I didn't look at it that way, I was pressing only when I saw the edge.

But still, to go into a casino, declare a lofty goal, and meet it...pretty nice.

It doesn't always work out that way, or even close. But this time, it did.
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Wizard: I have been asked to comment on this post.

Before I do so, let me remind the forum of the liberal free speech policy. However, it's also allowed to call out incredible claims, like Alan's 18 yo's. Reminder also that while you can challenge a post, you can't insult the poster.

That said, this story I find hard to believe. A 50 to 1 spread in a double deck game, while counting? As a counter for 37 years now (man, I'm old), this already seems ridiculous. The only way it might be allowed was if the counter was a bad counter, which does happen.

If you were betting up to $5,000, I would expect wins to be paid in yellows, assuming that is as high as the chips went. To pay in ten purples when yellows are in the rack also doesn't seem believable.

Let's pay close attention to this part.

Quote: MDawg
I jammed the bet whenever the count was high enough and my total recall of every card played and the sequence of the most recent cards out, told me to jam it up there.



Wizard: Total recall of every card? Are you saying you have a Rain Man kind of ability to remember every card played?

The sequence of the most recent cards? This would seem to say you're either shuffle tracking or (must restrain myself here) have a baccarat-player like belief that the cards run in patterns. Which is it?

Finally the part about the rack not being refilled doesn't seem realistic. Maybe I could see this in a jurisdiction where it's illegal to back off counters. However, in Vegas, they either want your action or they don't. I will admit I've never played at a level where I was any threat to clean out the rack. At the level you claim to play, I don't see casinos using passive aggressive tactics like this. If they didn't want your action, they would just get of you and then put you in OSN or whatever database of cheats and advantage players casinos are using these days.

That said, I welcome your reply. Thank you.

Wizard who said he has 37 years as a card counter, used words and phrases like "ridiculous", "doesn't seem believable" and "doesn't seem realistic" to describe this claim of Mdawgs. So it isn't just me and my little 20 years of experience calling this out as ridiculous and not the way things work.

The very person who told you Mdawg is a decent person called out the same.

And finally, I have no idea if Mdawg is a decent person or not. Any opinion I have of that is based only on his trolling attacks and lies of not just me, but anyone who ever doubted his bullshit claims and great adventured story. Maybe when he is not attacking and lying about people online he is Sister Teresa, handing out food and $100 bills to the less fortunate.

That is all this ever was about for me (same as Singer). These claims are not the way the math or Las Vegas works. Maxpen even your friend (and Mdawgs friend) Wizard said so.

Have an enjoyable evening.