Math vs fantasy

[jbjb]

Fuck off coach belly.

Look here is the bottom line. EVERY advantage player and REAL player playing for a living or significant money, or even the recreational type APs, can tell you exactly where their advantage comes from mathematically. Many don't want to share that and that is fine. That is probably the smart move. But they can! And when you look at that math or equation or whatever it is that provides a legitimate advantage (+EV), there are no real questions about it. There may be some questions related to how a player executes that play and math, like asking a card counter how he plays so that he is able to continue to be welcome or tolerated, but there is NO question about the math.

These guys, from Singer, To dawggy, now Evenbob/spike to a hundred of youtube scammers, the question isn't about what they do to excecated the play, the question are about the math....the alternative math that they come up with. It isn't hard to spot these guys and their tap dance. It is like I always say, "It just doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking"

Unfortunately with the excessive trolling, even by some APs personal feelings and dislikes, muddies that. Makes it into a game. But everyone still knows.

Most of us don't give a shit what they post either. Yeah we may mock them and call them the liars they are, but we certainly don't care what they post. If others fall for it, so what!

[kewlJ]

Anyway, enough of this shit. Off to lunch with my mother.

[MisterV]

As a divorce lawyer.

Earlier I asked what you were selling...thanks for reminding me.

Clarification: as a FORMER divorce lawyer...now inactive / retired.

Obviously what EB is doing works for him; my point is that his situation is not optimal, given the challenges of life.

[coach belly]

it is hard for me to grasp the EvenBob situation of being married living in separate homes

It's not as uncommon as you think, especially among certain sophisticates.

I'm sure you know that there are folks that cannot grasp that you like to grasp what you like to grasp, if you catch my drift.

But you don't want to hear about that, you call them haters.

But it's OK for you to disparage somebody else's preferences as you see fit?

You are so fucked up.

[kewlJ]

Most of us don't give a shit what they post either. Yeah we may mock them and call them the liars they are, but we certainly don't care what they post. If others fall for it, so what!

JBJB, there are many, probably most APs that have your attitude. I understand it completely. Every one of these clowns that comes along is actually better for us in the long run. They replenish the casino coffers that we take from.

But there is just a point of these people spewing complete bullshit, that as a real player who works at what we do, and we all work at it, accept the risk and downside, sometimes playing unusual hours and stuff, that you just say enough...what this guy is claiming is bullshit!

I have a fairly short fuse with this. Others like Axelwolf will go a while, sometimes months before they feel the need to say something. Some never do. You are closer to the "never do" although even people like you occasionally chime in with an "enough".

[coach belly]

Obviously what EB is doing works for him

So then why are you denigrating him for it?

Why not gay-bash tewlj instead?

[MisterV]

Obviously what EB is doing works for him

So then why are you denigrating him for it?

Why not gay-bash tewlj instead?

Why would I want to denigrate / gay-bash KJ?

I have zero issue with gays, and besides, unlike The Michigan Mind-fuckerr KJ hasn't called me out on this forum.

[Spike]

Fuck off coach belly.

Look here is the bottom line. EVERY advantage player and REAL player playing for a living or significant money, or even the recreational type APs, can tell you exactly where their advantage comes from mathematically. .

And I told you were mine comes from, I make well thought out and investigated educated guesses against random outcomes. This totally changes the conventional math in my favor so I now have the edge over the casino. Please try and pay attention. I would tell you what my edge is but you would just cry like a newborn baby as usual. And I even give you the math however I did that edge if I thought you would understand it.

[Spike]

but being married to someone yet not living with them has to be a true EPIC FAIL.

Regarding marriage, getting divorced is more of an EPIC FAIL.

There are many married couples that live apart, longtime marrieds, newlyweds, and everything in between.

Some consider that to be a sophisticated arrangement.

You obviously don't know what you don't know, you hayseed.

Everything you say is true. My State Farm Insurance agent says that married couples living apart is extremely common now and has been for the last 20 years. He claims some of the happiest married people he knows live in separate households and they're perfectly happy. I can totally vouch for that. The number of perks involved if you can afford to do it are too many to mention. Plus we still get all the benefits of being married.

[Spike]

LOL. The lawyer thinks he's going to trick me into giving him all the details of my personal life if he just keeps making up fantasy details and presenting them as the truth. Maybe that works with his double digit IQ friends, but it will never work with me. Make up all the crap you want, you have no idea what's going on and you never will and it's driving you insane.

Hardly, old boy: you yourself previously posted that she lives separated and apart and IIRC you said it suits both of you.

Obviously there is some SERIOUS dysfunction in your life.

Keep digging lawyer, dig dig dig. No details are forthcoming.

[MisterV]

I need no further "details" in order to peg and nail your ass to the wall as an inveterate bullshitter, Mr. "I make well thought out and investigated educated guesses against random outcomes."

Your claim that you win every session is beyond comical.

You portray yourself as a gamblin' Jesus, but me, I'm an atheist.

<---- humbug

[coach belly]

What is your purpose or agenda on these forums?

I had never considered electronic gaming, I was strictly a table-game card player.

I heard about Rob Singer, googled him, and the search led me here.

I immediately encountered the kind of pack-driven vitriol than continues to this day.

But not directed towards me, I was initially just an observer.

I eventually decided to examine the attackers and their posts.

I found many inconsistencies, still do, so I challenged them to confront their hypocrisy.

The arrogant dweebs don't like that, they think that everyone should just try to fit in.

But I don't care what a bunch of eunuchs and sissies think.

You've made some assumptions about me that are way off-base, which is typical of you.

I am not anti-AP, nor do I despise players that win. I want everyone win.

But I've found common behaviors among certain members on these sites that I do despise.

In short, they act like punks. They don't want others to win, they don't even want others to post.

Are these punks all APs? I don't know or care. How would I know, anyway?

I react to what others have written, and any disputes I have arise from their anti-social behavior, initiated within the discourse.

[coach belly]

unlike The Michigan Mind-fuckerr KJ hasn't called me out on this forum.

You got it all twisted. You called Spike out.

You made insulting comments about him here, long before he was even a member here.

Then, after he responded to that, you started a new thread with his name in it...calling him out.

Get real.

[Spike]

unlike The Michigan Mind-fuckerr KJ hasn't called me out on this forum.

You got it all twisted. You called Spike out.

You made insulting comments about him here, long before he was even a member here.

Then, after he responded to that, you started a new thread with his name in it...calling him out.

Get real.

He's a lawyer, his brain is all twists and turns and deception. Like I said if a lawyer tells you the sun is shining you better verify it by looking out the window because he's probably lying to you. They always think they're the smartest person in the room, next to the doctors. Because that's how people treat them whether they are or not. They usually are not.

[coach belly]

He's a lawyer, his brain is all twists and turns and deception.

What's this all about? What's with the Jesus reference?

Is this something you wrote about yourself?

You portray yourself as a gamblin' Jesus

[Spike]

He's a lawyer, his brain is all twists and turns and deception.

What's this all about? What's with the Jesus reference?

Is this something you wrote about yourself?

You portray yourself as a gamblin' Jesus

I have no idea, it's just something his twisted little mind came up with. I never talk about Jesus I'm an atheist. He thinks it's clever I guess.

[accountinquestion]

I skim over this stuff because there isn't 1 troll worth their salt in many pages.

Let me sum it up.

Spike lives with 14 cats separate from his wife.

He has trolled gambling forums for decades continually talking in circles about nonsensical claims.

Coach Belly says Spike is a "sophisticate" because of these things.

RIP

[MaxPen]

Spike's claims aren't even entertaining. There's literally no substance. I'm bored.....RIP

[Spike]

Spike's claims aren't even entertaining.

LOL! Of course they're not entertaining they are meant to be entertaining, what I do is extremely boring. I'm not trying to entertain the casino, I'm trying to take it's money. Sorry to disappoint you.

[MisterV]

Spike's claims aren't even entertaining.

LOL! Of course they're not entertaining they are meant to be entertaining.

Huh?

Well then, I guess the joke is on YOU.