Axelwolf mentioned the merits of what happened 20-30 years ago. I am interested in that just from a historical point. And I recognize that anything Red says about anything historical has an element of self promotion, or self "bragging". That is ok. I don't have a problem with anybody that is proud of their success at any given time.

My only issue with Red has to do with the bonus opportunities that are available now and his trashing of APs that take advantage of that. This is what APs do, find some advantage and play it. APs that aren't traditional type sports bettors playing this bonus game, in no way diminishes anything Red has done as a more traditional type sports bettor for decades. That he feels threatened that it does seems to be some kind of insecurity on his part.