The WoV Thread

[MaxPen]

Yes you beat me to that observation.

I just didn't want to say until I knew for sure what their max blackjack bet was. Without even checking I knew that Longhorn's video poker must be along the lines of places like Dotty's where UNKewlJ has been observed mindlessly playing low end video poker while looking for sugar daddies including the real winners he has ended up with so far, you know, the ones who have just enough to support him in the style he's grown accustomed to (meaning, slightly better than a tunnel dwelling shopping cart lifestyle).

Dotty's has/had some good VP.

[MDawg]

When you're caught yet again lying, or caught yet again saying something that inadvertently supports what everyone has already been saying about you, just revert to trying to make it seem like people are victimizing you.

KJ, you keep deflecting: You've been unmasked: deal with it How much longer will you run around the forum like a scalded monkey, hurling feces in the hope that some will stick?

[MaxPen]

The tunnel dwellers do like to shower in the Longhorn bathroom sinks.

Maybe you got a free sink bath for playing 10 hands of red.

FraudJ stopped immediately responding because he's busy searching the internet to find $50 of value in a Longhorn blackjack promo from the past...

[kewlJ]

I made a more than fair proposal to you Mdawg. You release Wizard from the NDA and allow his to say what he thinks and answer questions from Axelwolf and others and I would prove some of the things you people lie about to Dan Druff. Something I am opposed to in principle. I don't know what could be more fair.

And here I will make another. You release Wizard from the NDA, so the man regarded as an expert can say what he thinks and answer questions, and I will join you on a podcast with Wizard and Axelwolf and we can all question one another and just see who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.

I won't hold my breath. Either of these would unmask you to the point that this 5 year scam and that is what it is...would be over.

[MDawg]

When you're caught yet again lying, or caught yet again saying something that inadvertently supports what everyone has already been saying about you, just revert to trying to make it seem like people are victimizing you.

KJ, you keep deflecting: You've been unmasked: deal with it How much longer will you run around the forum like a scalded monkey, hurling feces in the hope that some will stick?

[kewlJ]

Notice how this bullshitter can't and won't accept either of these challenges and instead just responds with more trolling.

What a piece of work.

[MisterV]

This actually rather fits V too:I really should refrain from adding that we're dealing with someone so advanced in his disease that he hasn't been able to draw a sober breath more than a handful of days his entire adult life, but, why repeat the obvious? other than that this mind addling explains his confused outlook on things.

So, back to the "he smokes pot so disregard anything he says" angle, eh?

Weak, dawg, very weak.

I managed to put together a successful law practice and am now enjoying a successful retirement, all while puffing away at home on a regular basis.

I'm still on the weed wagon, having put down the pipe earlier this month; I plan to start blazing again tomorrow night, seeking visions of Santa and sugar plums.

A stiff, hidebound soul such as you seem to be should try cannabis...it might chill you out a bit and make you more of a pleasant person.

[MDawg]

*hic*

[kewlJ]

A stiff, hidebound soul such as you seem to be should try cannabis...it might chill you out a bit and make you more of a pleasant person.

Weed can't help this person MrV. Mdawg is an insecure, small man. he may have some money, probably not nearly what he portrays. He tells stories that build himself up to something he is not and then bullies anyone who dare challenge him. He talks about mental illness a lot and I would bet that is from experience. I am sure many times in his life he has heard the word narcissist used to describe him by professionals.

He is growing angrier and nastier by the day. I am not sure what he has to be so bitter about, but he is.

[MDawg]

Oh it's another long running, let's feed UNKewlJ his own hypocritical lies, afternoon....

The way he looks at things is not normal. The way he lies and then cannot bring himself to admit it is not normal. The way he makes voluminous posts one day then cries off in despair declaring he will never return (but does return) is not normal.

He's clearly manic at time, clearly depressed at others.

All the askew mood shifting thinking of his, is at a minimum schizoaffective disorder of a bipolar type. We should ask him if diagnoses of mental illness have run in his family, if he's honest he will tell us. Oh but then, he's not. Honest. Is he?

[coach belly]

That he can't even remember where this happened shows that he makes it all up.

You'd think that something unusual (like burning extra cards) would show up in the detailed and comprehensive notes that he compiled throughout his career.

[MisterV]

Mdawg is an insecure, small man. he may have some money, probably not nearly what he portrays. He tells stories that build himself up to something he is not and then bullies anyone who dare challenge him. He talks about mental illness a lot and I would bet that is from experience. I am sure many times in his life he has heard the word narcissist used to describe him by professionals. He is growing angrier and nastier by the day. I am not sure what he has to be so bitter about, but he is.

Yes KJ, that is true, but I think weed could be transformative to a guy like that.

I can just envision him in a tie-dyed shirt, puffing on a bong, with bags of Chee-tos and Oreos at hand, listening to The Dead sing "Friend of the Devil."

[coach belly]

Why don't you tell us what Vegas casinos burn more than one card in blackjack

You asked which place and I named one

Longhorn Casino on Boulder highway...It has been a number of years since I played there. But they used to... There are others...I don't remember exactly where.

[coach belly]

I would find a way to submit one or two questions, as many real AP's and players at WoV would.

What's stopping you or anyone else from asking as many questions as you want right here?

[kewlJ]

I would find a way to submit one or two questions, as many real AP's and players at WoV would.

What's stopping you or anyone else from asking as many questions as you want right here?

Mdawg doesn't answer legit questions from me, or Axelwolf or anyone else. He just trolls and calls people homeless and drunks and drug addicts.

[MDawg]

You ARE homeless and V IS an addict/alcoholic.

Further evidence that he's homeless is how he's oblivious to current events, movies, television. All he knows is online and specifically, only in these gambling forums where he's viewed as much as an irritant as his own family who booted him out of the household (which led to his homelessness).

They do give these bums Obama phones so he has internet access, but no free cable or movie tickets.

If he would just give me the green light, I know exactly from where he logs on to the internet usually, and it is not from the Panorama Towers he would like us to think he lives at. It's not a great neighborhood, and I probably need to investigate further to see if there is a tunnel entrance nearby.

But that has nothing directly to do with being a sociopathic liar.

[AxelWolf]

I made a more than fair proposal to you Mdawg. You release Wizard from the NDA and allow his to say what he thinks and answer questions from Axelwolf and others and I would prove some of the things you people lie about to Dan Druff. Something I am opposed to in principle. I don't know what could be more fair.

And here I will make another. You release Wizard from the NDA, so the man regarded as an expert can say what he thinks and answer questions, and I will join you on a podcast with Wizard and Axelwolf and we can all question one another and just see who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.

I won't hold my breath. Either of these would unmask you to the point that this 5 year scam and that is what it is...would be over.

I'm certainly no expert in all the moves one can make and Baccarat other stuff that's not well known.
There's only one question: Explain exactly where your advantage comes from and how is that information obtained.

There's a possibility that MD has a slight advantage in baccarat if you include lost rebates, tournaments, free bets RFB Etc. MD claims to be a good Tipper and has given examples. If that's the case that should be eating up any significant portion of all those perks. Even if the perks were above and beyond the ha and the Tipping, that certainly wouldn't explain the highly unusual win rates on the games that he claims.

If one had a particular move such as perfect information on the next card or whatever, I find it highly unusual that someone would be peacocking around the casinos and then bragging about how much they are winning online.

In Mike's original post related to his witnessing of MDawgs play I believe Mike indicated there's a possibility of a small advantage.
I assume Mike is doing the math related to the HA in Baccarat and then thinking about possible perks such as comps RFB, tournaments free bets Etc and if you included that depending on the value of those things one might have a slight advantage.


If I recall correctly, later Mike accidentally posted something that indicated he didn't notice anything unusual or different about MDawgs play that would create any significant advantage. Basically, it seemed like Mike was saying, there's nothing special to see here.

Obviously, that's not something MDawg wants people to know or think, therefore he had Mike remove the post on the grounds of breaching the NDA.

[AxelWolf]

I made a more than fair proposal to you Mdawg. You release Wizard from the NDA and allow his to say what he thinks and answer questions from Axelwolf and others and I would prove some of the things you people lie about to Dan Druff. Something I am opposed to in principle. I don't know what could be more fair.

And here I will make another. You release Wizard from the NDA, so the man regarded as an expert can say what he thinks and answer questions, and I will join you on a podcast with Wizard and Axelwolf and we can all question one another and just see who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.

I won't hold my breath. Either of these would unmask you to the point that this 5 year scam and that is what it is...would be over.

I'm certainly no expert in all the moves one can make and Baccarat there are lots of things going on that most everyone doesn't know.
There's only one question: Explain exactly where your advantage comes from and how is that information obtained.

There's a possibility that MD has a slight advantage in baccarat if you include lost rebates, tournaments, free bets RFB Etc. MD claims to be a good Tipper and has given examples. If that's the case that should be eating up any significant portion of all those perks. Even if the perks were above and beyond the ha and the Tipping, that certainly wouldn't explain the highly unusual win rates on the games that he claims.

If one had a particular move such as perfect information on the next card or whatever, I find it highly unusual that someone would be peacocking around the casinos and then bragging about how much they are winning online.

In Mike's original post related to his witnessing of MDawgs play I believe Mike indicated there's a possibility of a small advantage.
I assume Mike is doing the math related to the HA in Baccarat and then thinking about possible perks such as comps RFB, tournaments free bets Etc and if you included that depending on the value of those things one might have a slight advantage.


If I recall correctly, later Mike accidentally posted something that indicated he didn't notice anything unusual or different about MDawgs play that would create any significant advantage. Basically, it seemed like Mike was saying, there's nothing special to see here.

Obviously, that's not something MDawg wants people to know or think, therefore he had Mike remove the post on the grounds of breaching the NDA.

[MDawg]

Unfortunately, you have to assume that anything Wizard is recollecting that is more than a short period of time ago is flawed. He has said so himself, that his memory has gotten to where he can't even remember a few digit lock combination. So by the time he posted anything that was violative of the NDA he couldn't have remembered anything that happened, and he certainly could not today.

As a lawyer, I simply stepped up to have the violation of the NDA retracted, it wouldn't have mattered to me if he had posted that MDawg was doing this, or he was doing that, I would have asked for a retraction regardless.

Which is why, as far as this ridiculous UNKewlJ challenge (the way it would work is...if anyone did whatever first, he'd just renege on his end anyway, as usual)

after 20 years of posting has never produced one iota of proof about anything he ever claimed or ever said. Not even a picture

, if I were to free Wizard from the NDA he wouldn't even remember any of what happened that day over two years ago anyway. So if I wanted to call UNKewlJ's bluff and play games with him I would say, sure, let Wizard speak...but guaranteed he'd have nothing substantive to say, his recollection of that day would be a nearly blank page. All he could do is maybe say something in general about the game of Baccarat.

But I know that even offering something as worthless as freeing a man to speak on something of which he has no recollection, still wouldn't get anything in return from that fraud, so I just say...let him show his cards first to prove that he'll even perform. He won't, ever.

I had an NDA in place on the chance that Wizard might have detected what I was really up to. If you read the description of my play that day you'll note for example that there was just one run in that entire shoe and I won every hand in the run, not just some, not just a few, but all. I caught the first hand of the only run in the shoe, and the last. How did I do that? What are the odds that was random?

Also there was no martingale going on. After losing a hand I was just as likely to lower my bet. That session ended up just like the many others I have described - a winner. It was no anomaly.

[kewlJ]

There's a possibility that MD has a slight advantage in baccarat if you include lost rebates, tournaments, free bets RFB Etc.

I reject the lost rebate angle. I am not going to look it up, but the only time Mdawg suggested anything about a loss rebate was at WoV several years ago, when you brought up loss rebate. Mdawg responded with something like "yeah that is what I am doing". he didn't come up with that on his own and it simply doesn't fit with his claims and all the winning. The advantage from a loss rebate occurs when the player records a losing session....something Mdawg never does, or never repots to us anyway.

We all know of the small advantage a player can get at baccarat on specific hands and situations. 6that does not translate to longterm +EV and every baccarat player claiming it does is full of nonsense. EvenBob type nonsense.

I know exactly what Wizard said that he had to retract. You are right, it destroys Mdawgs whole story. Wizard should be allowed to give his opinion. It is ridiculous that he can't. It has been 5 years of this shit now.