Professional Sportsbetting

[AxelWolf]

In your case: Elderly Virgin

Merry Christmas

I have slept with over 50 different girls, no hookers or fatties(perhaps a few chubsters) I always forget a few, so it's hard to pinpoint the exact number. Zero black girls, Unlike Boz, I'm just not attracted to them, so I never really tried. A few Latinos and a few Filipino girls but most of them have been American White girls.
Most of them were between 1990 and 2002ish from ages 18 to 29.

[mickeycrimm]

In your case: Elderly Virgin

Merry Christmas

I have slept with over 50 different girls, no hookers or fatties(perhaps a few chubsters) I always forget a few, so it's hard to pinpoint the exact number. Zero black girls, Unlike Boz, I'm just not attracted to them, so I never really tried. A few Latinos and a few Filipino girls but most of them have been American White girls.
Most of them were between 1990 and 2002ish from ages 18 to 29.

Mission146 told me in a troll post that I never talk about women. He was implying that I was gay or some shit. I never responded to that shit. But now, here you go Mission.

I hate to admit what a whore I was but I was pretty good at snagging women out of the bars. My number is somewhere around 200. Some were one night stands, some were longer. I was pretty much a broke ass slob too. I didn't slow down until I got older, had a lot of money, and the women had kids and shit. Lame bitches can't pay their bills, panhandling kids want bailed out of jail and shit. Fuck all that. I'll just do without in my old age. The hormones don't act up like they used to anyway.

[Rob.Singer]

In your case: Elderly Virgin

Merry Christmas

I have slept with over 50 different girls, no hookers or fatties(perhaps a few chubsters) I always forget a few, so it's hard to pinpoint the exact number. Zero black girls, Unlike Boz, I'm just not attracted to them, so I never really tried. A few Latinos and a few Filipino girls but most of them have been American White girls.
Most of them were between 1990 and 2002ish from ages 18 to 29.

Mission146 told me in a troll post that I never talk about women. He was implying that I was gay or some shit. I never responded to that shit. But now, here you go Mission.

I hate to admit what a whore I was but I was pretty good at snagging women out of the bars. My number is somewhere around 200. Some were one night stands, some were longer. I was pretty much a broke ass slob too. I didn't slow down until I got older, had a lot of money, and the women had kids and shit. Lame bitches can't pay their bills, panhandling kids want bailed out of jail and shit. Fuck all that. I'll just do without in my old age. The hormones don't act up like they used to anyway.

Can you even BEGIN to imagine how posts like these last two affect the mind of someone like AQ? Right about now he's proposing to his right hand.

[soxfan]

Bbbbbwwwaaahhhhhhhhh, what's next, we gonna have the contest to see who can get broads, hey hey????

[accountinquestion]

Bbbbbwwwaaahhhhhhhhh, what's next, we gonna have the contest to see who can get broads, hey hey????

Robert is imagining me jerking off these days. A creep worth ignoring. Let him desperately try to get respect amongst real winning gamblers or winding up Kewl by spewing old old man style hate.

What a winner.

[mickeycrimm]

Chinamaniac is a known successful sports bettor. This is what he just wrote on Twitter:

china
@chinamaniac

"I believe in my 8 or so years being in involved in sports betting that 2023 saw the market get the toughest of any of these years compared to the prior year.

-Handicappers and bettors have gotten better
- Most markets with ripe fruit do not last as long
-Operators offshore have made some adjustments to protect themselves
-Brick and Mortar establishments have made significant efforts to stop the blood shed that they were taking

Markets tend to get more efficient over time and I am not saying sports aren't beatable anymore but it certainly takes more dedication and focus than ever before."

[accountinquestion]

Chinamaniac is a known successful sports bettor. This is what he just wrote on Twitter:

china
@chinamaniac

"I believe in my 8 or so years being in involved in sports betting that 2023 saw the market get the toughest of any of these years compared to the prior year.

-Handicappers and bettors have gotten better
- Most markets with ripe fruit do not last as long
-Operators offshore have made some adjustments to protect themselves
-Brick and Mortar establishments have made significant efforts to stop the blood shed that they were taking

Markets tend to get more efficient over time and I am not saying sports aren't beatable anymore but it certainly takes more dedication and focus than ever before."

Information is too symmetrical these days. S*** is all over Twitter and you pay for these sites that lay it all out there for you. Too many newly found pros. If you look at the books as competition Then there are a small pool of losers. Infinite sports nerds happy to break even. Destiny.

Not enough week lines. lines are way too sharp. Right redietz?

Is redietz still posting on other Sites?

Ozzy has been missing for sometime.

[1Hit1der]

Ozzy has been missing for sometime.

What happened to Ozzy of vegas casino talk?

---> The Dawning of the Apocalypse.

https://anagram-solver.net/what%20ha...oogle_vignette


Maybe, he suffered a big gambling loss, or, an even bigger loss, to not show up for the holidays. Ha. Anyway, he was another useless poster.

Haven't sen old, Red posting over at GF's, either. I did see where some of MDawg's posts were deleted. I guess old, KJ complained, but, really, who could give a shit about something like that, except KJ, who's 100% oblivious to the real world.

[Don Perignom]

@chinamaniac

-Operators offshore have made some adjustments to protect themselves
-Brick and Mortar establishments have made significant efforts to stop the blood shed that they were taking

I guess it depends on your measuring stick, but I don't detect operator bloodshed. The US operators (outside Nevada) have consistently generated big profit margins which are now bigger than ever. But technically in some cases the operators may not be "profitable" because of debt loads.

Good read from LSR:

https://www.legalsportsreport.com/11...ng-hold-trend/

I need to look into their podcast.

First graph in the article shows nationwide hold % rising from 6 toward 9% in the five-year span of legalized sports. As shown in the second graph, this is largely attributable to FanDuel which individually is now >11%. How do they get 11% when the standard -110 edge is 4.5? Likely suspects are live, in-game betting; and parlays. Margins on same-game parlays "anecdotally approach 20%."

Nevada is still down in the 5s (but with big margins on the dwindling parlay card action). Latest 12-month numbers:



NV mobile sports is only holding 4%. Another LSR article indicates 66% of NV's volume now originates online, although I'm not sure how that squares with those numbers. Nationwide, volume is overwhelmingly online. New Jersey now exceeds 96% online. Eyeballing the NJ data (on another site), hold % appears roughly the same online as retail (b&m).

Incidentally, below are the NV #s from 20 years ago when the only online options were offshore:



Those hold %s look roughly the same as today. Horse book win was in the 80s compared to only 30 million this year. Statistically it's not true that we're more obsessed with Race today.

[1Hit1der]

Ooh, from the last line of my previous post.

1 guess old, KJ com9lained, 6ut, really, who could g1ve a sh1t about someth1ng l1ke that, exce9t KJ, who's 100% o6liv1ous to the real world.

---> Congratulations. You have just discovered the secret message.

https://anagram-solver.net/1%20guess....?partial=true


How about that? The secret message was 2/7 or 2 July in 1961. Given that "snake eyes" 1 and 1 has a chance of 1/36 = 2.[7] repeat %---> 2/7. Goes with the two 1's in my latest username, too. And, again, there's that 36 ---> √9 and 6, for (10*9 + 6*1) ---> 1961. Ha.



And, just, noticed that the time of the video, 5:47 ---> 547 = (1 + 6*91) ---> 1691, or 1961.

[redietz]

My honest assessment of the above is that:

1) If you check ATS NFL records in contests with mega-numbers, what you've seen is that (at least prior to last week), 2023 NFL handicapping was yielding results as positive and profitable as any I have ever seen for a given season. What this implies or the reasons for this aren't something I have much opinion regarding, at least for the moment.

2) "More dedication and focus" may or may not have much to do with whether one wins betting sports. If you're not working at it 24/7, you're probably not going to win much of anything in the first place.

3) I think newcomers to sports betting, who are legion, were likely spoiled by the pandemic effects on spreads, which enabled casual bettors to take advantage of breaking news regarding who was ill or sitting things out. Numbers moves were huge and correct more often than not because they were linked to concrete events, namely people not being available. Folks like Todd (Dan Druff), who were conscientious and quick in their decisions, could make percentage moves. Between Covid and NBA "resting," those who pulled immediate triggers based on availability info were able to grind away at a more successful percentage than history would suggest. I think these kinds of numbers moves spoiled inexperienced souls into thinking sports betting was easier than it is. Once the Covid moves started clearing up, things eased back into the difficult lane. The NBA is also beginning to put the hammer down on the load management nonsense. Back to the grindstone, folks. Life ain't that easy in the long-term.

Finally, being introduced as a "known, successful sports bettor" is really a nothing cookie. The words "known" and "successful" are no substitutes for actual ATS records or accomplishments. "Known" is a relative term; anybody with a YouTube channel qualifies as "known." Not exactly a great vetting process. "Successful" is one of those mealy-mouth words that can mean whatever one wants it to mean.

[redietz]

@chinamaniac

-Operators offshore have made some adjustments to protect themselves
-Brick and Mortar establishments have made significant efforts to stop the blood shed that they were taking

I guess it depends on your measuring stick, but I don't detect operator bloodshed. The US operators (outside Nevada) have consistently generated big profit margins which are now bigger than ever. But technically in some cases the operators may not be "profitable" because of debt loads.

Good read from LSR:

https://www.legalsportsreport.com/11...ng-hold-trend/

I need to look into their podcast.

First graph in the article shows nationwide hold % rising from 6 toward 9% in the five-year span of legalized sports. As shown in the second graph, this is largely attributable to FanDuel which individually is now >11%. How do they get 11% when the standard -110 edge is 4.5? Likely suspects are live, in-game betting; and parlays. Margins on same-game parlays "anecdotally approach 20%."

Nevada is still down in the 5s (but with big margins on the dwindling parlay card action). Latest 12-month numbers:



NV mobile sports is only holding 4%. Another LSR article indicates 66% of NV's volume now originates online, although I'm not sure how that squares with those numbers. Nationwide, volume is overwhelmingly online. New Jersey now exceeds 96% online. Eyeballing the NJ data (on another site), hold % appears roughly the same online as retail (b&m).

Incidentally, below are the NV #s from 20 years ago when the only online options were offshore:



Those hold %s look roughly the same as today. Horse book win was in the 80s compared to only 30 million this year. Statistically it's not true that we're more obsessed with Race today.

Very good. Someone has some brains. The interesting immediate question for me is whether the record-setting 2023 ATS numbers for leaders in various NFL contests will translate into depressed NFL take when all is said and done for the season, or whether there's no correlation whatsoever. Any thoughts, Dom?

This all ties into my disdain for the "parlay calculators" WOV kept mentioning (for years). Hell, the offshores now PROVIDE parlay calculators so people can work out their own demise. Having said that, there are currently some ways to leverage certain kinds of offshore "parlays-that-aren't-really-parlays" these days, but I certainly won't provide details on those. Seed would, after all, get mightily upset.

Keep truckin', Dom. It may be pearls before swine, but it is refreshing to see someone asking the right questions with the right data.

[accountinquestion]

My honest assessment of the above is that:

1) If you check ATS NFL records in contests with mega-numbers, what you've seen is that (at least prior to last week), 2023 NFL handicapping was yielding results as positive and profitable as any I have ever seen for a given season. What this implies or the reasons for this aren't something I have much opinion regarding, at least for the moment.

2) "More dedication and focus" may or may not have much to do with whether one wins betting sports. If you're not working at it 24/7, you're probably not going to win much of anything in the first place.

3) I think newcomers to sports betting, who are legion, were likely spoiled by the pandemic effects on spreads, which enabled casual bettors to take advantage of breaking news regarding who was ill or sitting things out. Numbers moves were huge and correct more often than not because they were linked to concrete events, namely people not being available. Folks like Todd (Dan Druff), who were conscientious and quick in their decisions, could make percentage moves. Between Covid and NBA "resting," those who pulled immediate triggers based on availability info were able to grind away at a more successful percentage than history would suggest. I think these kinds of numbers moves spoiled inexperienced souls into thinking sports betting was easier than it is. Once the Covid moves started clearing up, things eased back into the difficult lane. The NBA is also beginning to put the hammer down on the load management nonsense. Back to the grindstone, folks. Life ain't that easy in the long-term.

Finally, being introduced as a "known, successful sports bettor" is really a nothing cookie. The words "known" and "successful" are no substitutes for actual ATS records or accomplishments. "Known" is a relative term; anybody with a YouTube channel qualifies as "known." Not exactly a great vetting process. "Successful" is one of those mealy-mouth words that can mean whatever one wants it to mean.

You're Mr Mealy Mouth if you won't go on Druff's show. Pretty simple. Just say you won't and we can put it behind us.

Or continue to be a phoney and fraud. Druff will treat you with respect. If you insist on having everything in a venue that you control, whether flying out somewhere or what have you, then it just shows how weak your "expertise" is.

Come'on man, show us up. Prove you aren't the phone and fraud.

Glad to see you back. I was worried.

[redietz]

Evidently you have not followed my trip report under Sports Betting. I try to not post in a "Professional Sports Betting" thread featuring no professional sports bettors, but that's just me.

Do you really think I would be hesitant to go on a radio show? You don't even post under your own name. It's pretty funny -- the anonymous dude saying a real person might not want to go on a radio show. You can't even be you on a forum.

[Rob.Singer]

Evidently you have not followed my trip report under Sports Betting. I try to not post in a "Professional Sports Betting" thread featuring no professional sports bettors, but that's just me.

Do you really think I would be hesitant to go on a radio show? You don't even post under your own name. It's pretty funny -- the anonymous dude saying a real person might not want to go on a radio show. You can't even be you on a forum.

Red, you've learned absolutely nothing after watching kew make a GINORMOUS fool of himself in his never-ending, humiliating quest to convince people that he's something he most definitely is not.

If you were even half the sports betting or handicapping guy you for some reason want the world to know you as, you would not be constantly posting this stuff about yourself ON THIS PUNY & MEANINGLESS, NO-IMPACT FORUM....just as you wouldn't be so desperate to reel in "investors" to help finance your flailing whateveryoucallit.

Please wise up.

[accountinquestion]

Evidently you have not followed my trip report under Sports Betting. I try to not post in a "Professional Sports Betting" thread featuring no professional sports bettors, but that's just me.

Do you really think I would be hesitant to go on a radio show? You don't even post under your own name. It's pretty funny -- the anonymous dude saying a real person might not want to go on a radio show. You can't even be you on a forum.

I read it. More of the same from you that is irrelevant to anything on here.

You've been caught so many times with bullshit. The press at your bookclub. You telling me Stanford suggest Ivermectin. Once you get out of the realm of unverifiable stuff it starts to become apparent.

If you're not hesistant then go on the show. What is so hard about this? What is the hold up? It is clearly more bullshit from you.

Yea, I don't post under my name. When we nailed it down as to what the benefit would be you boiled it down to having fame for your "accomplishments". Movie deals. Podcasts. Shit like that. I am not so arrogant to think my life is worth any of that and I don't go around claiming to be some mobster expert because I was a runner for someone back in the 80s.

Real pro-gamblers have money as an accomplishment and not a $500 tax bill. FACT

Anyway, I have never claimed to be an expert in anything or tried to sell my expertise unlike you. Me posting under a pseudonym is completely standard and you will be hard pressed to find many who don't practice this. Maybe if you had learned anything in the past 20 years it would be more clear to you.


Anyway, so no pro-sports bettors post in this thread. I have to agree but am surprised you've admitted such about yourself.

[redietz]

Evidently you have not followed my trip report under Sports Betting. I try to not post in a "Professional Sports Betting" thread featuring no professional sports bettors, but that's just me.

Do you really think I would be hesitant to go on a radio show? You don't even post under your own name. It's pretty funny -- the anonymous dude saying a real person might not want to go on a radio show. You can't even be you on a forum.

I read it. More of the same from you that is irrelevant to anything on here.

You've been caught so many times with bullshit. The press at your bookclub. You telling me Stanford suggest Ivermectin. Once you get out of the realm of unverifiable stuff it starts to become apparent.

If you're not hesistant then go on the show. What is so hard about this? What is the hold up? It is clearly more bullshit from you.

Yea, I don't post under my name. When we nailed it down as to what the benefit would be you boiled it down to having fame for your "accomplishments". Movie deals. Podcasts. Shit like that. I am not so arrogant to think my life is worth any of that and I don't go around claiming to be some mobster expert because I was a runner for someone back in the 80s.

Real pro-gamblers have money as an accomplishment and not a $500 tax bill. FACT

Anyway, I have never claimed to be an expert in anything or tried to sell my expertise unlike you. Me posting under a pseudonym is completely standard and you will be hard pressed to find many who don't practice this. Maybe if you had learned anything in the past 20 years it would be more clear to you.


Anyway, so no pro-sports bettors post in this thread. I have to agree but am surprised you've admitted such about yourself.

Technically, I filed as a professional gambler two or three years when I was in my 30's. The majority of the rest of my IRS filings have been as proprietor or partner in a business.

I'm no mobster expert. I just know sports gambling and happened to spend 90-100 days each year in Las Vegas during the events in the movie Casino and beyond. And I was never a runner for anyone. At some point, I'm hoping you'll get a few things correct. I'm rooting for you.

[accountinquestion]

Evidently you have not followed my trip report under Sports Betting. I try to not post in a "Professional Sports Betting" thread featuring no professional sports bettors, but that's just me.

Do you really think I would be hesitant to go on a radio show? You don't even post under your own name. It's pretty funny -- the anonymous dude saying a real person might not want to go on a radio show. You can't even be you on a forum.

I read it. More of the same from you that is irrelevant to anything on here.

You've been caught so many times with bullshit. The press at your bookclub. You telling me Stanford suggest Ivermectin. Once you get out of the realm of unverifiable stuff it starts to become apparent.

If you're not hesistant then go on the show. What is so hard about this? What is the hold up? It is clearly more bullshit from you.

Yea, I don't post under my name. When we nailed it down as to what the benefit would be you boiled it down to having fame for your "accomplishments". Movie deals. Podcasts. Shit like that. I am not so arrogant to think my life is worth any of that and I don't go around claiming to be some mobster expert because I was a runner for someone back in the 80s.

Real pro-gamblers have money as an accomplishment and not a $500 tax bill. FACT

Anyway, I have never claimed to be an expert in anything or tried to sell my expertise unlike you. Me posting under a pseudonym is completely standard and you will be hard pressed to find many who don't practice this. Maybe if you had learned anything in the past 20 years it would be more clear to you.


Anyway, so no pro-sports bettors post in this thread. I have to agree but am surprised you've admitted such about yourself.

Technically, I filed as a professional gambler two or three years when I was in my 30's. The majority of the rest of my IRS filings have been as proprietor or partner in a business.

I'm no mobster expert. I just know sports gambling and happened to spend 90-100 days each year in Las Vegas during the events in the movie Casino and beyond. And I was never a runner for anyone. At some point, I'm hoping you'll get a few things correct. I'm rooting for you.

Of course you duck the question about why you can't go on Druff's show for some actual verifiable exposure. Instead we always get endless smoke and mirrors. Deflections. It is clear as day you're scared to go on the show. You can say you aren't but you won't give one good reason. I'm actually more curious and have no desire to make fun of you if you were to do as such. I mean if you start insulting APs and others then you'd get a response but if you just talk about your experiences and what you know then you won't be getting shit from me. So don't let that scare you off.

Like I said I don't claim to be an expert in anything on here and it sure as fuck ain't you. You're so deluded to you think people should pay attention to your life story but you've won little if any cash. I get the important stuff right and that sure as fuck ain't you.

[redietz]

LOL. Account, I think it's finally seeping into your brain that I'm not scared of anything.

[redietz]

Evidently you have not followed my trip report under Sports Betting. I try to not post in a "Professional Sports Betting" thread featuring no professional sports bettors, but that's just me.

Do you really think I would be hesitant to go on a radio show? You don't even post under your own name. It's pretty funny -- the anonymous dude saying a real person might not want to go on a radio show. You can't even be you on a forum.

Red, you've learned absolutely nothing after watching kew make a GINORMOUS fool of himself in his never-ending, humiliating quest to convince people that he's something he most definitely is not.

If you were even half the sports betting or handicapping guy you for some reason want the world to know you as, you would not be constantly posting this stuff about yourself ON THIS PUNY & MEANINGLESS, NO-IMPACT FORUM....just as you wouldn't be so desperate to reel in "investors" to help finance your flailing whateveryoucallit.

Please wise up.

Robert, I thought you would chime in with a good word regarding Vic and Anthony's. You're the forum steakhouse connoisseur. Any particular recommendations from the menu? We ate too much -- we each had a steakhouse salad prior to the steaks, which was overkill even though we split just two sides. The salads were gigantic.