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[1Hit1der]

Instead of rewrite all of that shit over, and over, you really ought to, first, ask Soxfan what he meant. But, if no response, then let it at that. He, either, doesn't have to give up any of his plays.

[Rob.Singer]

This is just like Singer and the late Alan Mendelson. Both admitted they didn't play or know much about blackjack, and yet both fought me on everything I said, throwing all kinds of nonsense at the wall, hoping something sticks. ridiculous.

This is funny. Kew's latest set of concocted lies are excoriated by a professional player in LV, so he posts another of his loooong and messy essays that, after reading his own babbling nonsense, never seem to satisfy his need to convince & convert.

Then, upon realizing how dumb he looks to the very people he's trying to impress, the imposter decides to bring up how stupid he appeared to Alan & I when he tried to claim an ability to count two tables simultaneously. Which, of course and as usual whenever he gets his boy-tit stuck in the ringer, the caveats begin to come out of the woodwork.

Pure gold.....

[kewlJ]

This is just like Singer and the late Alan Mendelson. Both admitted they didn't play or know much about blackjack, and yet both fought me on everything I said, throwing all kinds of nonsense at the wall, hoping something sticks. ridiculous.

This is funny. Kew's latest set of concocted lies are excoriated by a professional player in LV, so he posts another of his loooong and messy essays that, after reading his own babbling nonsense, never seem to satisfy his need to convince & convert.

Dufus, neither Soxfan, nor Seedvalue are professional blackjack players, nor is either in Vegas. You are 0 for 2, as usual.

[kewlJ]

Rob, you used to do the same thing with Moses (the late Kevin Keen). Moses would say something disputing or contradicting what I said, and Rob would jump all over it saying "a professional player" (meaning moses) proved me wrong.

And in the end, in his final year, Moses revealed that he had won about 100k over 10 years in Reno, which is an average of 10k a year or recreational level play, just as I always said.

Rob will hitch his wagon (or pull behind trailer) to anyone that says what he wants to hear, whether credible or not. Rob did that exact thing with Mdawg. Rob was one of the first to call Mdawg out as a phony and "California flake". And then when Mdawg started attacking me, all of the sudden Rob was his number one fan.

Someday you haters will understand (probably already do), that I don't claim to be all things. I don't claim to be some great AP that knows all the different AP stuff and has made mega bucks doing this or that. But I do know what I have done for 20 years now and been successful and am pretty knowledgeable in that narrow lane of blackjack card counting. (and a very little bit of very elementary supplemental AP stuff).

You can hate all you want....for whatever reason you want (usually nothing to do with gambling), but it isn't going to change that reality.

[kewlJ]

You know what else doesn't change the reality of it Rob? Pictures in an RV that doesn't belong to you. Or phony pictures of a jackpot on a computer screen in your house. Or pictures of fake movie prop cash purchased from Amazon. Or claims of the double up bug stolen from the news and the real players.

At least Mdawgs pictures of cash and chips are real. They don't prove what he is hoping to prove, that he actually won anything, but they are real.

People on forums posting pictures, doctored or real, trying to prove something almost assuredly are full of shit. (just as all the youtube scammers do). I have never seen a single real player post any pictures trying to prove anything. Not one!

[MDawg]

Anything UNKewlJ hasn't had time to "study up" on (and we're talking YEARS, it takes him that long to wear one of his fables smooth enough to pass muster, we're dealing with a very dim witted individual here) he ends up sticking his fat foot in his wide loose mouth over.

[1Hit1der]

KewlJ

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[jdog]

Not trying to troll you KJ, but the fact that you didn't seem to grasp what neither SV nor soxfan was saying does not bode well for you as an AP.

[Rob.Singer]

Anything UNKewlJ hasn't had time to "study up" on (and we're talking YEARS, it takes him that long to wear one of his fables smooth enough to pass muster, we're dealing with a very dim witted individual here) he ends up sticking his fat foot in his wide loose mouth over.

Instead, the nervous little twit keeps repeating the same lies about me, you, Alan, and anyone else he thinks makes him feel good to make fabrications about. The hurt must be too much to bear....

Notice how he's given up bringing up his fake "baby bro" as an authority on his failed life.

[Rob.Singer]

Not trying to troll you KJ, but the fact that you didn't seem to grasp what neither SV nor soxfan was saying does not bode well for you as an AP.

Here comes another nervous essay....straight from the gizzard.

[MaxPen]

When you post things like this everyone who actually runs teams (profitable) playing much higher then you claim here just laugh. Sox was trying to wise you up some, but you just don’t understand much. Your not a practitioner just a forum guy

Complete bullshit! Soxfan hasn't demonstrated that he knows much about card counting and his voodoo gambling comments about theories that he has posted at Gambling Forums makes it unlikely has ever won at anything. When these guys start talking about winning at Baccarat and roulette and progression wagering, they are almost always losing degenerate type gamblers. And frankly Seedvalue, YOU endorsing this kind of voodoo nonsense, doesn't say much about you and your knowledge of card counting. It puts you in the category of just another one of these haters willing to endorse anything, even complete nonsense, hoping to discredit me. You just can't accept that I know what I am talking about via blackjack card counting based on 20 years experience and networking with a number of long-time professional players.

Two card counters playing the same table raising and lowering bets in unison will put both on the fast track to running bootcamps or writing books or whatever they intend to do post blackjack career. Even the well known call-in, big player approach didn't result in two players sitting there raising wagers in unison. The spotter would exit shortly after calling in the big players, just so they weren't doing so.

There is one very unique scenario that 2 card counters could play the same table and get away with it. And that is a profitable side bet that requires a specialized count. One player would count regularly while the second would count the specialized count for the side bet. These players would not be raising their bets in unison (one likely flatbetting) and might get away with it at least for a while.

Look, blackjack card counting isn't like some of the machine plays you guys specialize in. There are several different levels of casino personnel with eyes on any blackjack player betting larger amounts. Yes, there are higher roller, higher limit players that bet thousands of dollars, but they are watched closely to make sure that they aren't spreading and counting cards. Anyone claiming they count cards and spread to a max bet greater than about $1000 or $2000 at the most, for any length of time is full of shit. A player can wager $5000 or $10,000 but they can NOT spread to that.

The only way to achieve some longevity with blackjack card counting is to identify and play limits that are better tolerated and play shorter session, so as to minimize the number of large winning sessions, and generally not make a nuisance of yourself. It isn't about tricking anyone....those days are long gone, it is about being tolerated. And that is exactly why there are so few pure card counters left (except at recreational lower limits).

I guess what Seedvalue and Soxfan were saying isn't something covered extensively on all the forums you read. Maybe you should go oil your surfboard...lol

[kewlJ]

LMAO at you guys and your "fables smooth enough to pass muster" nonsense.

Yeah, you got me Mdawg.

I have posted on forums for 17 years now, read up on everything I could find, and moved away from my friends in Philadelphia, 2500 miles across country, to a city that I knew no one, to "trick" strangers on the internet that in no way would benefit me financially. All the while working some job to support myself. People have claimed everything from flipping burgers to fast food manager, to now you haters have settled on male prostitute. yeah, you got me!

Doesn't there come a point where you retards stop with your nonsense?

[MisterV]

Doesn't there come a point where you retards stop with your nonsense?

They'll keep their bullshit up so long as they find it amusing to do so.

So long as you keep rising to their bait, they'll continue to cast aspersions.

[1Hit1der]

Here comes another nervous essay....straight from the gizzard.

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And, there, right on cue, was KJ's nutty sidekick from Snortland, himself up for some of that bait. Ha.


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[kewlJ]

I guess what Seedvalue and Soxfan were saying isn't something covered extensively on all the forums you read.

Not trying to troll you KJ, but the fact that you didn't seem to grasp what neither SV nor soxfan was saying does not bode well for you as an AP.

Ok, so let me see if I have this right. There is some top secret method of two players playing at the same blackjack table involving card counting that I, nor anyone that I network with, including an expert in game protection, nor my friend that works the pit at a Strip casino knows about?

Note the bolded "involving card counting", because that is what both myself and my brother do for a living. We don't hole card or anything like that. We are card counters.

And you are going by Soxfan, who embraces every gambling voodoo concept he can find and you can read all about it in the baccarat section (hint right there) at GF?

[kewlJ]

Doesn't there come a point where you retards stop with your nonsense?

They'll keep their bullshit up so long as they find it amusing to do so.

So long as you keep rising to their bait, they'll continue to cast aspersions.

Yes MrV, I am the fool, for continuing to engage with these trolls, thinking they will ever stop trolling and be serious about anything.

[jdog]

Ok, so let me see if I have this right. There is some top secret method of two players playing at the same blackjack table involving card counting that I, nor anyone that I network with, including an expert in game protection, nor my friend that works the pit at a Strip casino knows about?

I can't speak to anyone else you've mentioned (especially since you're not referring specifically to any actual person) but yes, it appears there are a couple things you don't know.

[kewlJ]

Well lay it on me jdog. If it is something you can't say publicly, do so privately. If there really is something I don't know, I will be happy to acknowledge you were right.

[kewlJ]

Without even getting into anything too specific, casinos know to look for "confederates" or players playing together at table games.

Did you see the movie "21" about the MIT blackjack team? As in many movies there were thing that weren't actual or factual, but there were also some things that were. One of the more factual things was that the Laurance Fishburne character, who was based on Andy Anderson of Griffin detective agency, better known as Griffin black book at the time, figured out that each time the player being looked at (big player in this case) sat down there was always the same or one of several people already at that table. THAT is how members of the MIT team were discovered and linked back to MIT and the Cambridge Mass area.

And this was in the 1990's. 30 years ago! Casino surveillance knows to look for confederates or players playing together at table games, even before they figure out what they might be doing. This is not the path to longevity.

I don't know exactly what my brother's long-term plans or goals are. I probably should ask, but I suspect he hasn't really planned anything. But I have. I have been at this 20 years in March. 15 years here in Vegas. And I would like to get another 5-10 years. Everything I do, is based on my top priority of longevity. For example, I have had the bankroll to play much higher stakes for years now. Higher stakes would mean higher win rate and winning. But those players that do that last a year or two and then end up writing books and running blackjack bootcamps.

Team play involving playing together at the same table is just a recipe for a short career.

[soxfan]

Yer not only an inveterate, compulsive, pathological liar, yer an imbecile as well, hey hey.