Originally Posted by MDawg
The truth remains the truth, and whether seedvalue is on his death bed or not, like Tater/Moses, he is not going to retract one bit of the truth he uncovered about FraudJ.
Originally Posted by MDawgLet's address this first.Originally Posted by kewlJ
The minute Moses died, UNKewLyingJ was all over both forums but especially this one, going on and on about how yes Moses had showed up at his condo in 2019. So much for UNKewLyingJ's hypocrisy about leaving the dead to RIP.
Moses never retracted his statement that he had never showed up at any condo at which UNKewLyingJ lived. Moses stated repeatedly that he had never even been to Vegas as of the year UNKewLyingJ claimed he had visited him. All Moses did towards the end of his life was express remorse in general over having duked it out with UNKewLyingJ at the forums: Kj is not my right to just your life. I'm a very sorry. I hope you will forgive me. I didn't mean those nasty I said to you. I hope you will forgive me and maybe keep me in your prayers. That would be great. I don't want to fight anymore.. These sort of classy last words are more than UNKewLyingJ ever managed about either AlanMendelson or Moses, before or after they died.
God you are an idiot, Mdawg. And a lying piece of shit til the end. Moses apologized for the nasty things he said over 10+ years. You just quoted it. What the fuck do you think he was talking about?
Moses is gone, may he rest in peace. I can say that, as well as wishing somebody like Moses and Seedvalue well, when they disclose, they are seriously ill because it is the decent thing to do. It doesn't mean I forgive them or have forgotten all the nasty shit and lies.
I never knew exactly what Moses's issue with me was. My issue with him was that when he came to Norm's forum, he started claiming he was a professional blackjack player and sports bettor, living and playing Reno. I knew that couldn't be. I was not completely sure about the sports betting, but a player just can not be a professional blackjack player playing only or based out of Reno. I have come to learn by experience that it is dangerous to play Reno at all, as after 10+ years of identifying and playing limits and a style that were well tolerated here in Vegas, a weekend trip to Reno resulted in consequences that began to unravel all that work and success. But that is another story.
So I guess Moses big issue was that I dared say, no that isn't right. You simply cannot play professional blackjack in or based out of Reno.
The big admission that Moses made, and it wasn't exactly on his deathbed, but sometime in the last year of his life, probably when he already knew he was sick, was that he had made $100,000 playing Reno over 10 years. THAT is NOT professional level blackjack or earnings. That is an average of $10,000 a year. Part-time, supplemental, supplementing retirement (which we later learned was what Moses story actually was). But 10K a year is not professional level blackjack play and that is what Moses claimed that I objected to. And THAT is what he admitted towards the end.
Now this part is speculation based on what I now know. Moses lived in California with his wife and owned and ran a business (something to do with blinds or window shades). He got divorced in his early 50's and moved to Reno. I don't know if he sold his business or closed his business, but after divorcing he was basically retired, early at a young age. This is about the time he showed up at Norm's forum making these claims. I think he thought that was going to be the next phase of his life, playing blackjack at some sort of professional level making....well I don't know what he thought he was going to make, but I am sure more than 10k a year. And he found out he couldn't do that....I am sure VERY quickly. Problem was he had already told everyone that is what he was doing and had done for some time. He just couldn't bring himself to say, "well yeah that is what my plan was, but I was unable to play for the money I thought in RENO", until the last year when he did pretty much say that.
I don't know why it escalated the way it did, and he got so nasty and personal with attacks, just because I said, you can't do what he claimed in RENO. But it did escalate. Just the same I don't know why Mdawg has escalated just because I have said you can't do most of the things he claims in Vegas. It is just not the way it works.
These guys from Singer to Mdawg to Moses, come out and make claims that equate to a fantasy story because they are claiming things that defy the way things work and when anyone, not just myself but anyone calls them on it, they get nasty, attack and lie. The only thing a little different about Moses was based on what I now know, I don't think he set out to lie and make up a fantasy story like Singer and Mdawg. I think Moses thought he was going to move to Reno and play blackjack for a living after his divorce, and for whatever reason, he jumped the gun, saying that is what he had already done or was doing. And then when he discovered that wasn't possible in Reno, he couldn't bring himself to come clean until that last year. And even then, he did it is sort of bits and pieces.
But anyway, enough about Moses. I don't understand why people need to make up some of the shit that they make up and do all the personal attacks that they do. That doesn't mean I can't and won't wish them well if they become sick and are passing away or something. It also doesn't mean that wipes away what they have said.
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