Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
Now for my professional sportsbetting question. Playing one of the major offshore books, I've achieved a major downswing. Lifetime, I've now deposited about double my withdrawals. I usually take a bonus on deposits, but not always. I always play well in excess of rollover requirements.

Currently, I've gone broke and I see they've zeroed my rollover requirement. Would it be reasonable to take a bonus on my next deposit? I don't know the norm for zeroing rollover.
If your account hits zero (meaning you have lost), then your rollover requirements are complete and reset at zero. Remaining rollover doesn't get added to a new deposit and rollover requirements. If they did that it would be incentive to not redeposit with that book, but find a new one.

As for the situation you find yourself in, having registered a lifetime loss with more deposits than withdrawals, this can work to your advantage. This is exactly where I was last September at the start of football season. two different books had me as a losing player of several years. Not huge amounts, as I was just betting recreationally. But losing. So when football season started and I decided to give the bonus whoring thing a serious go, playing more money than I usually did, I was able to negotiate better terms, bonus and rollover, because of my history as a losing player, at both those off-shore books. I negotiated terms that weren't posted on their websites. But you have to ask and negotiate. It isn't just handed to you.

Do you have a host or account rep? they call it a host, but it isn't a host like at a B & M casino. It is just a rep that is familiar with your account. You should contact that rep/host and ask what the best terms you can get are. They will usually offer something that isn't posted on the website. And if you play hard ball, and say something like "no thanks, I can do better elsewhere", you will get an even better offer. And this can be done by email, you don't have to call them.

Now I have received bonuses and rollover that I have played through twice now and collected profits since I started this last September and I am currently into my 3rd cycle (still at good bonuses and rollover....good meaning you can make some money with). A couple more experienced players keep telling me they will cut me off or at least no longer offer me these "premium" terms. Maybe they will. But so far I have made good money with bonus and rollever terms better than advertises and all because I had a history involving some losses when I started getting serious.