Professional Sportsbetting

[MisterV]

Robert, you are of course free to dislike the content of his posts, but don't underestimate the old boy's intelligence.

I suspect Garnabby would give our own self-proclaimed Smart Guy, redietz, a run for his money on a Mensa IQ test.

Alas, finding a way to give traction to intelligence is not always easy.

[redietz]

Redietz, have you ever gotten one of these?

LOL. Mickey, people get these all the time. The idea is to avoid getting these. If folks get pissed off, you get these. If, however, management is smart and you sustain for a long time, they can piggyback you and everyone wins. If management changes, then everything, however, can change. I'm sure Munchkin can wax eloquent regarding many such interactions.

The worst example I ever heard happened to my co-presenter at the Gambler book club discussion. My co-presented was banned from playing block pools at Heritage. That's how frightened people are of my co-presenter. Banned from the free block pools. LOL. As a matter of record, my co-presenter isn't technically banned from the site. Just can't bet anything or play comped block pools. You can't make this stuff up.

Alas, I get less respect. Which is a good thing.

[redietz]

Robert, you are of course free to dislike the content of his posts, but don't underestimate the old boy's intelligence.

I suspect Garnabby would give our own self-proclaimed Smart Guy, redietz, a run for his money on a Mensa IQ test.

Alas, finding a way to give traction to intelligence is not always easy.

Self-proclaimed!?! I beg to differ! My mother had me tested.



As I said many years ago here, many times, anyone who brings up IQ is begging for ascribed status instead of achieving it. I bring it up because (1) it's a cause celebre over at Shackleford's forum and (2) I'm the low man on any IQ totem pole when sitting around with my compadres.

[coach belly]

Mickey, people get these all the time.

Mickey asked if you ever got one.

[coach belly]

My mother had me tested.

The Chamberpot PA test is not recognized by MENSA.

That must be why you don't carry the card.

[redietz]

Mickey, people get these all the time.

Mickey asked if you ever got one.

Coach, are you nitpicking again? What do you think? I defer to your expertise.

And no, I didn't get an email from bet365. So technically, coach, I can clearly state that I did not get an email from bet365. Which isn't surprising, since I never had an account at bet365.

I think I already laid out the issues in numerous previous posts regarding things like kewlJ's bonus whoring while expecting no repercussions. That stuff only sustains so long. And then, if it's an offshore, and they are in a particularly bad mood, they can just keep your money for funsies.

If you look up some old posts of mine regarding this, you'll read that I said that kewlJ needed to be careful of "being defined a certain way." The post mickey provided explicates the definition in question.

[redietz]

My mother had me tested.

The Chamberpot PA test is not recognized by MENSA.

That must be why you don't carry the card.

I never took a MENSA test, coach. I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member (that's a Groucho Marx line). I suggest you check out my old high school if you want to verify testing and all that. The place is called North Schuylkill. Just drop into the guidance office and ask. You'll get a surprise.

[coach belly]

Mickey, people get these all the time.

Mickey asked if you ever got one.

Coach, are you nitpicking again?

I think you're the one who's nitpicking.

Mickey asked a yes or no question...your answers so far have been typically Martian.

[coach belly]

I never took a MENSA test

Nobody thought that you ever did...except for maybe your momma.

Yet you're still carrying on about being the 70's tallest midget in Chamberpot, PA.

That's nice.

[redietz]

Coach, are you nitpicking again?

I think you're the one who's nitpicking.

Mickey asked a yes or no question...your answers so far have been typically Martian.

So what exactly is the question, coach? I said I never got an email from bet365 regarding "being a professional."

What's the question, exactly?

You seem to miss the point, coach. Some places would ban a Billy Walters. Some places would welcome him with open arms. if you can't figure out why not and why, I'm not being paid enough to explain it to you. Now if you want to hire me as a consultant, I'll be glad to type up an explanation and send it to you. But the check gotta clear first.

Or you can call in to Todd's podcast and ask. See, all kinds of options just for you, coach. Who loves ya, baby?

[coach belly]

I said I never got an email from bet365 regarding "being a professional."

What's the question, exactly.

Who are you quoting regarding "being a professional"?

That wasn't in mickey's question.

I think he was asking if you've ever gotten a back-off notice from an online book...he provided an example.

That should be obvious for any English-speaking earthling to understand, Mr. smarty pants, but you are struggling.

We are patient and can wait for you to catch up.

Run Forrest...run!

[redietz]

How banal. I already told one story here ages ago. I was informed I was not customer material for one particular offshore. I honestly don't recall if they informed me via email or by messages left in my account or both. They sent the amount in my account back to me -- actually used stateside folks to mail me various money orders in birthday cards to my aunt and grandma, among others, LOL.

Two years later, they emailed and called me and requested that I return as a customer. So I did. It's an offshore that has gotten multiple mentions here, and many not from me.

That incident underlines the why and why not decisions of offshores to label someone persona non grata.

Again, if you can't figure it out, we can negotiate my "explanation payment." It's pretty obvious. In other words, any idjit can figure it out. But if you can't, it's worth asking me when I'm on a podcast. Just send questions to the podcast hosts.

I love you, coach. I appreciate your efforts to make me look smarter. Thanks a bunch. Not everyone could pull it off, but you do great.

[Garnabby]

Robert, you are of course free to dislike the content of his posts, but don't underestimate the old boy's intelligence.

I suspect Garnabby would give our own self-proclaimed Smart Guy, redietz, a run for his money on a Mensa IQ test.

Alas, finding a way to give traction to intelligence is not always easy.

My anagrams with gematria were necessarily for my own amusement, even when strained at times, by quite a few of the tougher ones, to get them to work out in an elegant fashion.

I scored, 156, on that test, when I was about sixteen. I posted up my grade-13 marks, some of them, in the Brunson death-thread. But, I figured out, a few years later, that it's better to do the stuff that sets the IQ-test questions than to perfect it. That stuff is always evolving, anyway. And, as I pointed out in another post, Einstein thought that great scientific achievements have more to do with character.

As far as traction "about gaining popularity or acceptance", that isn't how scientists think. Different persons have different ideas that they work out in different ways, but, neither sincerely works on, say, a TOE, to become famous. More of a quest of dedicated personal curiosity. Something like that would quickly become overly tedious to someone strictly out for fame. Regardless, the math/physics work out, or they don't, and, so, it isn't a matter of thus traction. The fun is getting that stuff to work out, which doesn't necessarily require a lot of thus traction, either.

P.S. I wasn't able to find any other example(s) of the anagrams with gematria. Might be an original idea, which is a very, very rare "animal" nowadays. Ha.

[coach belly]

I already told one story here ages ago.

I don't recall that story, in which age did you post it?

According to my ditz-to-English dictionary, the translation of your latest yarn is that you were once backed off from an online sportsbook (not Bet365), and that back-off was subsequently rescinded.

Is that an accurate summary of your circuitous answer to the operative question?

[redietz]

I already told one story here ages ago.

I don't recall that story, in which age did you post it?

According to my ditz-to-English dictionary, the translation of your latest yarn is that you were once backed off from an online sportsbook (not Bet365), and that back-off was subsequently rescinded.

Is that an accurate summary of your circuitous answer to the operative question?

You don't seem to grasp the fundamentals, coach. Sports books rarely "back off" someone. They prefer to put stringent limits on them. So if a famous online sports book (like Pinnacle, for example) limits your golf future to $1.50, is that being "backed off?" Technically, and I know you love technically, the answer is no.

Second, whether something is a "yarn" is largely in the eye of the reader. If a reply of roughly 150 words is considered "rambling," and whether such a story is "implausible," -- the words in quotes come from dictionary definitions of the word yarn -- is something that only a reader can decide.

Third, again, whether someone is "backed off" has more to do with the profile of what they are doing, not whether they have won or lost. For example....you know what, I'll save examples for a podcast.

Thanks again, coach, for your time. I'm trying to limit my responses to 150 words so you don't find them onerous or a "yarn."

[coach belly]

Sports books rarely "back off" someone.

You are twisting yourself into a knot by rambling...weren't you backed off?

I was informed I was not customer material for one particular offshore.

Two years later, they emailed and called me and requested that I return as a customer.

[mickeycrimm]

I already told one story here ages ago.

I don't recall that story, in which age did you post it?

According to my ditz-to-English dictionary, the translation of your latest yarn is that you were once backed off from an online sportsbook (not Bet365), and that back-off was subsequently rescinded.

Is that an accurate summary of your circuitous answer to the operative question?

You don't seem to grasp the fundamentals, coach. Sports books rarely "back off" someone. They prefer to put stringent limits on them. So if a famous online sports book (like Pinnacle, for example) limits your golf future to $1.50, is that being "backed off?" Technically, and I know you love technically, the answer is no.

Second, whether something is a "yarn" is largely in the eye of the reader. If a reply of roughly 150 words is considered "rambling," and whether such a story is "implausible," -- the words in quotes come from dictionary definitions of the word yarn -- is something that only a reader can decide.

Third, again, whether someone is "backed off" has more to do with the profile of what they are doing, not whether they have won or lost. For example....you know what, I'll save examples for a podcast.

Thanks again, coach, for your time. I'm trying to limit my responses to 150 words so you don't find them onerous or a "yarn."

It's unbelievable that you think being limited to a buck fifty is not a back off. They are telling you to go fuck yourself. No pro is going to waste their time in that spot. Furthermore getting limited like that is a common theme amongst all professional sports bettors but YOU. They work around it by using other people's accounts then burn those accounts down anonymously and advertise for more accounts. It's a revolving door.

I remember some years ago an NFL playoff game we were is discussing on VCT where the books had Pittsburgh either a 6.5 or 7 point dog. But I bet the game on Bovada getting 7.5 points. You told me that you had accounts at 11 offshore books and none of them had the line at 7.5. I had to tell you that Bovada had that line as you didn't have a Bovada account.

But the point is that you said you have 11 offshore accounts. How have you been able to beat those books for all that money without being limited to chickenfeed betting or getting your accounts suspended? Every other sports bettor of note says it's impossible to get away with it that long. Have you been beating those books for all these years without them taking action against you? If you have then why are you getting special treatment?

PS: Even the sharp books like Pinnacle and Circa that take wiseguy action cap the betting on them.

[accountinquestion]

Redietz, have you ever gotten one of these?

LOL. Mickey, people get these all the time. The idea is to avoid getting these. If folks get pissed off, you get these. If, however, management is smart and you sustain for a long time, they can piggyback you and everyone wins. If management changes, then everything, however, can change. I'm sure Munchkin can wax eloquent regarding many such interactions.

The worst example I ever heard happened to my co-presenter at the Gambler book club discussion. My co-presented was banned from playing block pools at Heritage. That's how frightened people are of my co-presenter. Banned from the free block pools. LOL. As a matter of record, my co-presenter isn't technically banned from the site. Just can't bet anything or play comped block pools. You can't make this stuff up.

Alas, I get less respect. Which is a good thing.

lol at thinking anyone knows what the fuck a free block pool is ...

Garnabby clearly has an IQ higher than Redietz. That isn't even up for question.

[redietz]

I don't recall that story, in which age did you post it?

According to my ditz-to-English dictionary, the translation of your latest yarn is that you were once backed off from an online sportsbook (not Bet365), and that back-off was subsequently rescinded.

Is that an accurate summary of your circuitous answer to the operative question?

You don't seem to grasp the fundamentals, coach. Sports books rarely "back off" someone. They prefer to put stringent limits on them. So if a famous online sports book (like Pinnacle, for example) limits your golf future to $1.50, is that being "backed off?" Technically, and I know you love technically, the answer is no.

Second, whether something is a "yarn" is largely in the eye of the reader. If a reply of roughly 150 words is considered "rambling," and whether such a story is "implausible," -- the words in quotes come from dictionary definitions of the word yarn -- is something that only a reader can decide.

Third, again, whether someone is "backed off" has more to do with the profile of what they are doing, not whether they have won or lost. For example....you know what, I'll save examples for a podcast.

Thanks again, coach, for your time. I'm trying to limit my responses to 150 words so you don't find them onerous or a "yarn."

It's unbelievable that you think being limited to a buck fifty is not a back off. They are telling you to go fuck yourself. No pro is going to waste their time in that spot. Furthermore getting limited like that is a common theme amongst all professional sports bettors but YOU. They work around it by using other people's accounts then burn those accounts down anonymously and advertise for more accounts. It's a revolving door.

I remember some years ago an NFL playoff game we were is discussing on VCT where the books had Pittsburgh either a 6.5 or 7 point dog. But I bet the game on Bovada getting 7.5 points. You told me that you had accounts at 11 offshore books and none of them had the line at 7.5. I had to tell you that Bovada had that line as you didn't have a Bovada account.

But the point is that you said you have 11 offshore accounts. How have you been able to beat those books for all that money without being limited to chickenfeed betting or getting your accounts suspended? Every other sports bettor of note says it's impossible to get away with it that long. Have you been beating those books for all these years without them taking action against you? If you have then why are you getting special treatment?

PS: Even the sharp books like Pinnacle and Circa that take wiseguy action cap the betting on them.

So let me get this straight. You think that I think that getting a $1.50 limit is "not getting backed off." LOL. Did you even grasp the gist of the post? By coach's standards, is the point, you're not banned, so it doesn't match the warning email from bet365.

I love you guys. You definitely should be posting in "professional sports betting." When I warned kewlJ, more than a year ago, about being "labeled a certain way," what did you think I meant? That "non-recreational" label is the classic go-to these days. The criteria for that are completely subjective and amorphous, so the books have maximum latitude, which they always have had, anyway. They dictate the rules, and they can make them up as they go along. But now they have go-to lingo.

Yes, I did get hit with a $1.50 futures limit on a golf future. Or something like that. May have been $1.27 or $1.33. It was Sergio Garcia, by the way. Coach you can reasonably fault me for a shaky memory on the precise amount. I'm getting old. I'd have to double check.

And mickey, you have no idea why people take or don't take money. You just do not get it. Unless you are betting Billy Walters amounts, and no one is, there are very sound reasons to allow this or that. I can't believe you don't get it. Expertise is insurance of a sort.

And I'm telling you, if you use that multiple account schtick, the offshores can and will keep your money. They are not exactly incommunicado with each other. And then big chunks of your work, and your alleged edge, go out the window the first time an offshore gobbles up 10% of your bankroll for funsies and you have no recourse. Ask Munchkin about the worst hit he took in this regard.

Here you go -- ask Todd what happened when he initially tried to open a Heritage account. What does he think Heritage was doing, and why would they allow some people (me included) to operate with impunity? If you think it was because I was losing money, you got it ass-backwards.

LOL. Mr. Crimm, you are the proverbial kite dancing in a hurricane.

[coach belly]

It's unbelievable that you think being limited to a buck fifty is not a back off.

You think that I think that getting a $1.50 limit is "not getting backed off."

if a famous online sports book (like Pinnacle, for example) limits your golf future to $1.50, is that being "backed off?" Technically, and I know you love technically, the answer is no.

LOL...The Nutty Professor